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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:41 am
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This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
routine.
In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
(the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal considering
what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
make squats safe?
THANK YOU.
Your wisdom is appreciated.
regards,
eric pearson
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:00 am
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I got a 300lb oly set at the mall for $120 (eventually got a second
set just to get more of the small weights  . I mail ordered a cage
and bench, and some accessories, from http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/
Total cost was around $700.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:32 am
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"eric pearson" <nono.ericp.nono.TakeThisOut@nonono.fuse.net> wrote in message
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> Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
> (the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
> I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
> including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
> by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
> Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>
> So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
> look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal considering
> what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
> right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>
> Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
> make squats safe?
First, skip the Smith Machine. At the least, it removes the need for
the stabilizing muscles to do anything (the bar is on a track - it can't
fall forwards, backwards, or to the side). This will reduce the value
of doing an exercise like a squat.
At the worst, in addition to the above, it forces your body to contort
to accommodate the path that the bar is restricted to instead of the path
that is natural for your body (it is highly unlikely the bar follows the
same path when you do a free weight squat as when you use a Smith
Machine.)
You might want to check the places that sell used weight equipment
near by - you may be able to get a squat rack or power cage there.
For the short term, if you can't find any other way to do it, check out
saw horses.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:33 pm
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:41:01 -0500, eric pearson
<nono.ericp.nono.TakeThisOut@nonono.fuse.net> wrote:
>This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
>Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
>
>I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
>I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
>now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
>overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
>routine.
>
>In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
>Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
>though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
>was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
>deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
>stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
>put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
>there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>
>Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
>(the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
>I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
>including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
>by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
>Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>
>So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
>look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal considering
>what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
>right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>
>Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
>make squats safe?
>
>
>THANK YOU.
>Your wisdom is appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>regards,
>eric pearson
>nonono.ericp1.nonono@nonono.fuse.net
Abandon the Smith Machine. It has limitations, to put it mildly.
Basically, you can only go up and down in it. Your body isn't made
that way so it forces you into unnatural postures and movements. plus
you don't use stabiliser muscles, as the machine stops you from going
to the front or back or side to side. you build up one in a set of
related muscles, not the whole lot as a group which is what you'd do
by lifting real weights. It's a bad idea.
BB
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:54 pm
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"eric pearson" <nono.ericp.nono.RemoveThis@nonono.fuse.net> wrote in message
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> This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
> Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
>
> I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
> I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
> now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
> overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
> routine.
>
> In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
> Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
> though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
> was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
> deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
> stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
> put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
> there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>
> Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
> (the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
> I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
> including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
> by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
> Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>
> So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
> look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal considering
> what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
> right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>
> Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
> make squats safe?
>
>
> THANK YOU.
> Your wisdom is appreciated.
First, congratulations on your weight loss - not everyone who needs to
do this actually does, so good for you.
Second, if you like to deadlift, deadlift. Pavel's "Power To The
People!" program is built around the deadlift and the side press, and
all you need is the weight set and a rubber mat - no rack or bench
required. Start out with the PTP book, the weight set, and the mat, and
you'll spend $250 or so. Later, add a power rack and a bench if you
want to add squats or bench presses to your routine.
Link to the PTP book: http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm
You do not _need_ to squat, particularly if you're trying to get smaller
and not bigger, neither do you _need_ to bench press unless you think
nice chests belong on men, so just do what you enjoy and revisit the
squat-or-not and other questions in six months or a year.
Good luck to you.
-S-
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:33 am
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eric pearson wrote:
> I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
> I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
> now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
> overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
> routine.
As you get into lifting regularly BMI will become a worse estimate
of leanness. Go to body fat percentage.
> In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
> Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
> though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
> was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
> deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
> stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
> put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
> there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>
> Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
> (the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
> I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
> including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
> by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
> Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
At least get the bar, weights and bench now. There are several lifts
you can do from the floor, such as deadlifts, hack squats, cleans, etc.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:58 am
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Steve Freides wrote:
> "eric pearson" <nono.ericp.nono DeleteThis @nonono.fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:tkltm11c14javmva2i579mu3b2ge360svp@4ax.com...
>
>>This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
>>Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
>>
>>I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
>>I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
>>now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
>>overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
>>routine.
>>
>>In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
>>Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
>>though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
>>was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
>>deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
>>stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
>>put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
>>there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>>
>>Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
>>(the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
>>I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
>>including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
>>by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
>>Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>>
>>So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
>>look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal considering
>>what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
>>right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>>
>>Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
>>make squats safe?
>>
>>
>>THANK YOU.
>>Your wisdom is appreciated.
>
>
> First, congratulations on your weight loss - not everyone who needs to
> do this actually does, so good for you.
>
> Second, if you like to deadlift, deadlift. Pavel's "Power To The
> People!" program is built around the deadlift and the side press, and
> all you need is the weight set and a rubber mat - no rack or bench
> required. Start out with the PTP book, the weight set, and the mat, and
> you'll spend $250 or so. Later, add a power rack and a bench if you
> want to add squats or bench presses to your routine.
>
> Link to the PTP book: http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm
>
> You do not _need_ to squat, particularly if you're trying to get smaller
> and not bigger, neither do you _need_ to bench press unless you think
> nice chests belong on men, so just do what you enjoy and revisit the
> squat-or-not and other questions in six months or a year.
>
> Good luck to you.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
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"Lascivious Mink" <T.the.Magnificent.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> "eric pearson" <nono.ericp.nono.RemoveThis@nonono.fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:tkltm11c14javmva2i579mu3b2ge360svp@4ax.com...
>>
>>>This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
>>>Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
>>>
>>>I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
>>>I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting
>>>pulse
>>>now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30)
>>>to
>>>overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
>>>routine.
>>>
>>>In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
>>>Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
>>>though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
>>>was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
>>>deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
>>>stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
>>>put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
>>>there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>>>
>>>Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
>>>(the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
>>>I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
>>>including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all
>>>made
>>>by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
>>>Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>>>
>>>So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
>>>look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal
>>>considering
>>>what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
>>>right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>>>
>>>Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
>>>make squats safe?
>>>
>>>
>>>THANK YOU.
>>>Your wisdom is appreciated.
>>
>>
>> First, congratulations on your weight loss - not everyone who needs
>> to do this actually does, so good for you.
>>
>> Second, if you like to deadlift, deadlift. Pavel's "Power To The
>> People!" program is built around the deadlift and the side press, and
>> all you need is the weight set and a rubber mat - no rack or bench
>> required. Start out with the PTP book, the weight set, and the mat,
>> and you'll spend $250 or so. Later, add a power rack and a bench if
>> you want to add squats or bench presses to your routine.
>>
>> Link to the PTP book: http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm
>>
>> You do not _need_ to squat, particularly if you're trying to get
>> smaller and not bigger, neither do you _need_ to bench press unless
>> you think nice chests belong on men, so just do what you enjoy and
>> revisit the squat-or-not and other questions in six months or a year.
>>
>> Good luck to you.
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>
>>
>
> And of course, neither front squats nor overhead squats REQUIRE a
> rack.
Very good point. Both are more technical than the deadlift, though, and
the OP mentioned he really liked deadlifting, so that would seem to be
the way to go here. Also I don't think I'd OHS without rubber or bumper
plates, even on rubber mats. Can't say about FS because I don't do
those. But the good old DL works fine with cheap plates and rubber
mats.
-S-
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You tiny ballerina you...
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:19:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve.RemoveThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>"Lascivious Mink" <T.the.Magnificent.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:8LSbf.54700$5e4.34485@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> "eric pearson" <nono.ericp.nono.RemoveThis@nonono.fuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:tkltm11c14javmva2i579mu3b2ge360svp@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>This question is voiced asking for your wisdom. Advice is welcome.
>>>>Please do not flame, I really am seeking your wisdom.
>>>>
>>>>I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
>>>>I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting
>>>>pulse
>>>>now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30)
>>>>to
>>>>overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
>>>>routine.
>>>>
>>>>In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
>>>>Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
>>>>though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
>>>>was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
>>>>deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
>>>>stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
>>>>put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
>>>>there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>>>>
>>>>Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
>>>>(the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
>>>>I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
>>>>including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all
>>>>made
>>>>by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
>>>>Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>>>>
>>>>So . . . Since I've not heard of a Smith machine before (but it does
>>>>look like has handy safety features), is this an okay deal
>>>>considering
>>>>what I really want is weights plus bench plus (I think this is the
>>>>right phrase - 'Squat/power cage'.?
>>>>
>>>>Or if I get the $290 stuff from Dick's, what affordable can I do to
>>>>make squats safe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>THANK YOU.
>>>>Your wisdom is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> First, congratulations on your weight loss - not everyone who needs
>>> to do this actually does, so good for you.
>>>
>>> Second, if you like to deadlift, deadlift. Pavel's "Power To The
>>> People!" program is built around the deadlift and the side press, and
>>> all you need is the weight set and a rubber mat - no rack or bench
>>> required. Start out with the PTP book, the weight set, and the mat,
>>> and you'll spend $250 or so. Later, add a power rack and a bench if
>>> you want to add squats or bench presses to your routine.
>>>
>>> Link to the PTP book: http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm
>>>
>>> You do not _need_ to squat, particularly if you're trying to get
>>> smaller and not bigger, neither do you _need_ to bench press unless
>>> you think nice chests belong on men, so just do what you enjoy and
>>> revisit the squat-or-not and other questions in six months or a year.
>>>
>>> Good luck to you.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And of course, neither front squats nor overhead squats REQUIRE a
>> rack.
>
>Very good point. Both are more technical than the deadlift, though, and
>the OP mentioned he really liked deadlifting, so that would seem to be
>the way to go here. Also I don't think I'd OHS without rubber or bumper
>plates, even on rubber mats. Can't say about FS because I don't do
>those. But the good old DL works fine with cheap plates and rubber
>mats.
>
>-S-
>http://www.kbnj.com
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"Steve Freides" <steve DeleteThis @fridayscomputer.com> wrote in news:3tajpvFqls40U1
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> plates, even on rubber mats.
Weenie.
I've never dropped an OHSQ, but I have missed snatches and cleans with a
regular weight set on rubber horse mats. It gets the wife's attention but
doesn't cause any other harm.
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"Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy DeleteThis @acm.org> wrote
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> I've never dropped an OHSQ, but I have missed snatches and cleans with a
> regular weight set on rubber horse mats. It gets the wife's attention but
> doesn't cause any other harm.
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Gets the wife's attention, eh??
So you are saying that dropping these big weights on the horse mats are some
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:49 pm
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In article <5YudnTL1BKAvl-zenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy.DeleteThis@acm.org> wrote
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> > I've never dropped an OHSQ, but I have missed snatches and cleans with a
> > regular weight set on rubber horse mats. It gets the wife's attention but
> > doesn't cause any other harm.
> >
> Gets the wife's attention, eh??
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> So you are saying that dropping these big weights on the horse mats are some
> kinda foreplay??
Prolly depends on what muscle is being used to lift the weights......
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:51 pm
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Jeff Finlayson <finlayson.DeleteThis@hiwaaay.not> wrote in
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> eric pearson wrote:
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>> I am a 57YO who was close to 'Morbidly obese' - BMI >40.
>> I've taken off a lot of weight through aerobic exercise (resting pulse
>> now 54 and dropping) and soon will progress from 'obese' (BMI >30) to
>> overweight (BMI 25-30). I would like to add weightlifting to my
>> routine.
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> As you get into lifting regularly BMI will become a worse estimate
> of leanness. Go to body fat percentage.
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>> In my wasted youth a long time ago, I lifted weights for exercise.
>> Deadlift was far and away my best and most favorite exercise. Even
>> though I was wimpy (girly-boy?) with 'upper body' things, my deadlift
>> was pretty good - once did (single repetition) > 2xBW. LOVED to
>> deadlift. Squats were the one I hated most since I was young and
>> stupid and had not heard of squat racks, cages, etc and thus had to
>> put the bar atop a stack of concrete blocks, load it up, and go from
>> there. If near failure, drop bar into yard and run like hell!
>>
>> Now I am older and must exercise indoors. For several reasons, Gyms
>> (the place, not the principle) are not an option. So....
>> I am trying to keep this <$500 for a start. Sam's Club has a package
>> including 300 lb Oly weight set, bench, and a 'Smith machine' all made
>> by Impex for $410. I can get wts and a really good bench from Dick's
>> Sporting Goods for $290. This has only a 'squat catch'.
>
> At least get the bar, weights and bench now. There are several lifts
> you can do from the floor, such as deadlifts, hack squats, cleans, etc.
>
> Good luck and happy lifting.
>
And seriously consider sturdy sawhorses for safety bars. I lifted with them
for years.
Hugh
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:43 am
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"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in
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> "Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy DeleteThis @acm.org> wrote
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>> I've never dropped an OHSQ, but I have missed snatches and cleans with
>> a regular weight set on rubber horse mats. It gets the wife's attention
>> but doesn't cause any other harm.
>>
> Gets the wife's attention, eh??
>
> So you are saying that dropping these big weights on the horse mats are
> some kinda foreplay??
O yea she jus cumz an droolz ovr my big gunz... lol
Hugh
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:24 am
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:19:25 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve RemoveThis @fridayscomputer.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
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>Very good point. Both are more technical than the deadlift, though, and
>the OP mentioned he really liked deadlifting, so that would seem to be
>the way to go here. Also I don't think I'd OHS without rubber or bumper
>plates, even on rubber mats. Can't say about FS because I don't do
>those. But the good old DL works fine with cheap plates and rubber
>mats.
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