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Kevin J

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Since: Jan 19, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:22 pm
Post subject: wide/narrow stance & knee pain
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Weird observation today. Narrow stance squat hurts my knee less than
wide - but the opposite is true for a deadlift. Why?

--Background - ACL tear 2 years ago (you can google it in this group),
ACL repair 1 year ago (Patella tendon graft).

The thing is, my knee pain is usually around the patella tendon (where
the graft was taken) - how is narrow stance easier on the patella
tendon with a squat?

Pain is different with deadlift, kind of a grinding from a (v. small)
bone chip left in the joint (can see it in an x-ray), ad that pai is
lesseed by the wide stance.

Just curiosity here.

Anyway, I'm still going sooper light on the squat - 155lbs. Deadlift
is just finally back to 3 plates (could do 4 at max, but I weighed
40bs more than now).

Squat is way harder.

Now that I that I've found I can do a narrow stance squat without
stressing the knee like the wide stace, I may (finally) be able to
relearn/retrain the squat - most I ever did there was about 275, I'd
be thrilled to get back to that, but it's gonna take time.

Oh, and don't complain about typos - the and a buttons are't working
very well.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:22 pm
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other people probably have much better advice than i'll give you, but
with the deadlift, i've read on here that the farther your forearms are
behind your knees when you begin your lift, the more strain it will put
on the knees. I guess that's kind of obvious though. But maybe the
wider stance has your forearms more behind your knees.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:19 am
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In article <els0v0png9hlimvl2nfbkoamqi7hnohv4q.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Kevin J
<kjames81@S*h*P*o*A*t*M*m*M*a*E*i*R*l.com> wrote:

> Weird observation today. Narrow stance squat hurts my knee less than
> wide - but the opposite is true for a deadlift. Why?
>
> --Background - ACL tear 2 years ago (you can google it in this group),
> ACL repair 1 year ago (Patella tendon graft).
>
> The thing is, my knee pain is usually around the patella tendon (where
> the graft was taken) - how is narrow stance easier on the patella
> tendon with a squat?
>
> Pain is different with deadlift, kind of a grinding from a (v. small)
> bone chip left in the joint (can see it in an x-ray), ad that pai is
> lesseed by the wide stance.
>
> Just curiosity here.
>
> Anyway, I'm still going sooper light on the squat - 155lbs. Deadlift
> is just finally back to 3 plates (could do 4 at max, but I weighed
> 40bs more than now).
>
> Squat is way harder.
>
> Now that I that I've found I can do a narrow stance squat without
> stressing the knee like the wide stace, I may (finally) be able to
> relearn/retrain the squat - most I ever did there was about 275, I'd
> be thrilled to get back to that, but it's gonna take time.
>
> Oh, and don't complain about typos - the and a buttons are't working
> very well.

This is very difficult to analyze. We are dealing with both injury and
some vagueness in terms of technique.

I think how your feet are pointing and how your knees track over your feet
are more relevent than stance. And that can vary in the two lifts. The
wide stance squat may be a matter of your knees tracking poorly, where you
track well in the sumo. Possibly foot position is also relevent.

It would be nice to see some video. Or actually have you demonstrate when
we are in Calgary.
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