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Since: May 28, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:16 pm
Post subject: weight lifting program for Tennis Archived from groups: misc>fitness>weights (more info?)
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Since: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 388
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:28 pm
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Steve Freides wrote:
> "blakesq" wrote
> > Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program
> > to do during the tennis season? Thanks.
> >
> > Blakesq
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> Either do a general strength and conditioning program for yourself, or
> seek out the advice of a good tennis coach and have him/her design a
> program specifically for you. For almost every player below the elite
> level, just gaining some basic strength and conditioning will help the
> game as well as help prevent injury, and something specific to tennis
> isn't really necessary.
>
> And the above goes for most other sports as well - get a sport-specific
> coach to design your training, including your lifting, or stick to the
> basics - most people don't do the basic lifting and conditioning and are
> the worse for it.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
Bill Pearl has a phone book available that offers tons of sports
specific routines. Perhaps it's available at your local library. I was
looking at that book when I visited the local Barnes & Noble.
The Amazon link while I'm at it:
<http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Stronger-Weight-Training-Sports/dp/0936070382/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_k2a_2_txt/002-1560302-6975262>
And, yeah, Google's your friend:
_The Ultimate Guide to Weight Training for Tennis_
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Weight-Training-Tennis-Sports/dp/1932549250
And from there you should be able to see links for _Power Tennis
Training_ and _Complete Conditioning For Tennis_. Say, doesn't Martina
have a tennis and exercise book available as well?
Plus, no shipping and handling required:
http://www.wellness.ma/sports-fitness/tennis-strength-training.htm
Best of luck with your sport.
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Since: Jan 08, 2005 Posts: 2036
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:26 pm
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"blakesq" <blakesq RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165101361.286339.25910@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program
> to
> do during the tennis season? Thanks.
>
> Blakesq
Either do a general strength and conditioning program for yourself, or
seek out the advice of a good tennis coach and have him/her design a
program specifically for you. For almost every player below the elite
level, just gaining some basic strength and conditioning will help the
game as well as help prevent injury, and something specific to tennis
isn't really necessary.
And the above goes for most other sports as well - get a sport-specific
coach to design your training, including your lifting, or stick to the
basics - most people don't do the basic lifting and conditioning and are
the worse for it.
Just my opinion.
-S-
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Since: Nov 01, 2006 Posts: 123
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:51 pm
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General lifting, but also cable/weight work, along the trajectory of the
tennis stroke.
Something my HoloBarre is quite useful for.
Ask jmw here for his opinion on this.
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"blakesq" <blakesq.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program to
> do during the tennis season? Thanks.
>
> Blakesq
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Since: Oct 29, 2005 Posts: 614
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:47 am
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Dnia 2006-12-02 blakesq napisał(a):
> Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program to
> do during the tennis season? Thanks.
Yes, someone can do it. However, if you want to get good programs more
often, you should give more details. How many times a week you can do
weight training? How much training stimulus you can take (rough
estimation is fine)? What are your primary goals when it comes to
weight lifting?
But generally, do explosive lifts as often as you can spare. Go for
reps, but no more than 5. Do try to squeeze more lifts within your
training session. Do not bother as much about reps as about the total
number of lifts. The more muscle mass you think you need, the more
often you should perform slow exercises. If you mainly need more
strength, go for explosive lifts and do not bother about slow stuff.
It will only eat your recovery ability. Do some amount of unilateral
work, to balance your body. Start with weak side and repeat with your
strong side. Actually, I believe that you should focus on unilateral
work, because it will give you a lot of core stability, which should
help.
Try some variations of clean and snatch, with probably hang clean and
clean grip snatch being ones of the safer versions. Do one-armed
version of both. They work fine. Try explosive pushups. Do normal
bread and butter squats. Mix it a bit and perform it as often as you
can, without burning yourself out.
For example, make a list of six exercises which you believe to be good
for you. Take a dice. Toss it. Do thusly selected exercise until you
"have enough". Next day do the same. Or simply do them one a day,
every day.
Just an idea, but I believe that it will serve your goals better than
typical weight training routine.
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Since: Jan 12, 2007 Posts: 49
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:03 am
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Since: May 28, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:10 am
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What I am actually looking for is a weight lifting program for Tennis.
Something to help with my serves, forehand, backhand, and movement on
the court, as well as stamina. I am really hoping for a program,
stating exercises, and numbers of sets. I make it to the gym about two
to three times a week, and I play twice a week.
Blakesq
blakesq wrote:
> Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program to
> do during the tennis season? Thanks.
>
> Blakesq >> Stay informed about: weight lifting program for Tennis |
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Since: Oct 04, 2006 Posts: 514
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:28 am
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> General lifting, but also cable/weight work, along the trajectory of
> the tennis stroke.
> Something my HoloBarre is quite useful for.
> Ask jmw here for his opinion on this.
You are here just to troll aren't you?
>
> "blakesq" <blakesq DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165101361.286339.25910@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> Can some of you tennis players give me a good weight lifting program
>> to do during the tennis season? Thanks.
>>
>> Blakesq
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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss >> Stay informed about: weight lifting program for Tennis |
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Since: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 388
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:02 am
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Bully wrote:
> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> > "blakesq" wrote
> >> Can some of you tennis players give me a good
> >> weight lifting program to do during the tennis
> >> season? Thanks.
> >
> > General lifting, but also cable/weight work, along
> > the trajectory of the tennis stroke.
> >
> > Something my HoloBarre is quite useful for.
Yo, PV, where can I purchase a HoloBarre? First, how much do they run?
And, yes, of course I Googled!
- "Kristofer Hogg, ms, rd HoloBarre Rehab/Fitness/Stretching Systems,
Yonkers, NY"
- "Turn your doorway into a fitness center with the Holobarre System."
- "In it simplest form, it consists of a telescoping stainless steel
bar"
> > Ask jmw here for his opinion on this.
Ah! Here we have it, imo. The crossroads (kindasortabutprollynot).
Will you, PV, please 'splain HoloBarre for the layman, discuss where
the treatment is at at the current time, and - in general - give any
readers who may be interested (I count myself as one) the low down on
your creation?
[Please note: I am honestly not yanking any chains. I am not attempting
to disrespect you. I am not looking to put you on the spot. I am
wondering if these words should be within parentheses or these
brackets. Hmm. WHATEVER.  )]
Or will you, like John Williams, give the short shrift with something
very much like an excuse for not engaging in productive
conversation/discussion? Shame on JMW (ymmv, imo, etc.), but...
> You are here just to troll aren't you?
I'll have to agree with Bully if something positive isn't forthcoming.
Otoh, who the heck am I, right? ;o)
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:04 am
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Since: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 48
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:13 am
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"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Slow training against resistance will make you slow. Especially, when
> one trains "sport specific" movement. How fast you can "serve" against
> bands? Much slower than real stuff. And the trainee will learn to
> "muscle" the movement, which is bad news.
>
<snip>
> But I can be wrong. No matter, that's what I think.
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Since: Oct 25, 2006 Posts: 388
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:09 am
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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Dnia 2006-12-03 Curt napisał(a):
[...]
re Pete's offering of
http://www.nieuwsinfo.nl/images/12003ausopen367.jpg
> > I'd say that's at least 90% Mother Nature, Pete. ;o)
> > God BLESS Her on her creations, eh?
>
> If she achieved 90% of her present level, Pete wouldn't
> be able to Google her out. She would be nobody among
> other nobodies.
Is that true, Andrzej?
http://sportsline.com/tennis/rankings/wta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serena_Williams
She's been a pro tennis player since 1995 (at age 14!) and, although
she's ranked 95 currently, from what I see in Wiki, she was ranked 21
by the Women's Tennis Association in 1999.
The 100 ranked female tennis player? I was "able to Google her out."
Likewise, I suspect that Serena, had she only achieved 90% of her
accomplishments, would also have been someone Pete would have been able
to find with a search engine's help.
How'd you phrase it? "But I can be wrong. No matter, that's what I
think."
Regardless, Serena's physique is courtesy of her parents. Boom! I'm
guessing she'd look as she looks even if she'd never played tennis,
never spoke to a trainer, never did anything but ate and breathed.
Again, I'm guessing that maybe ten percent of her physique/appearance
may've come from her participation in tennis - weight training,
supplements, competitions, etc.
Does she even lift weights? Or did she "just" train (and train and
train) on the courts?
http://www.serenawilliams.com/
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:02 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:07 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:55 pm
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:07:44 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
<bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Dnia 2006-12-03 gedaloda.DeleteThis@thisguy.com napisał(a):
>> http://www.lifelineusa.com/products.cfm?categoryid=34&productid=28
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>I may be wrong, but it looks like nonsense to me. Best way to spoil
>ones technique and slow him down, regardless of increased injury risk.
As you say, you may be wrong.
Technique is acquired through practice on the court (or against a
backboard) and with guidance from a coach. Technique is not acquired
through lifting weights or stretching rubber.
Resistive bands and tubing do not slow you down; they can help to
increase explosive power as resistance increases as the tubing is
stretched.
Elastic resistance training (ERT) is being used for conditioning
purposes with tennis players and many other kinds of athletes.
So are free weights, bodyweight exercises, jump ropes, etc.
Just as you select the right amount of iron for specific exercises
when you lift, you choose the correct thickness of tubing with ERT.
Correct technique and correct amount of resistance help to reduce the
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