Weight training equipment upstairs?

"Tom Anderson" <twic.TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0612102023510.22811@urchin.earth.li...
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking as the parent
>> of a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know everything.
>
> And all parents of teenagers think they know nothing.

I didn't say he didn't know anything, just that his opinion of his own
knowledge isn't representative of reality. He knows plenty (and there
are plenty of things he already does better than I do), but one doesn't
trust a 14-year-old's opinion of his ability to lift safely and
effectively without evidence and, for that matter, one doesn't trust an
adult's opinion on the same subject without evidence, either. I've
watched my 14-year-old lift - it's impressive, but it's not always safe.
Most middle-aged adults I've seen err on the side of lifting too little
weight to be effective, while most young men I've seen err of the side
of trying to lift too much or use poor, often dangerous form to complete
a lift they probably shouldn't have even started.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


> tom
>
> --
> The best way to predict the future is to invent it. -- Alan Kay
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Tom Anderson wrote, On 12/10/2006 2:24 PM:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking as the parent of
>> a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know everything.
>
> And all parents of teenagers think they know nothing.
>
> tom
>
That's my son's complaint also, but it's not true.
Some parents think it's their responsibility to take good care of their beloved
child in spite of his wants, and his wish to be independent. Protect him from
himself, so to speak. That includes doing some research on stuff the kid wants
that the parent has no clue about.

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Cindy wrote, On 12/10/2006 12:14 AM:
> Hi,
> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>
> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one
> for Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor,
> which I thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But
> my ex tells me it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that
> if he drops the weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts
> alone, he might crack his chest.
>
> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs. I told him he's not to take any
> weights over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow
> the equipment up there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS
> how to lift weights and would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR
> himself. Neither one gives me much confidence.
>
> What do youall think?
>
> Thanks,
> Worried mother

Omigod, I insulted him. Apparently he's in a growth spurt. I forwarded him
these posts and he informed me he weighs 115! I swear it was only a month or so
ago he told me 90.

Less-worried mother
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* Delenn wrote, On 12/10/2006 3:08 PM:
> Cindy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Maybe we could put one in his doorway. I could even try it. LOL
>
> Sigh. I really wish you hadn't laughed at that as an idea.
>
> It's been a long-held goal of mine to do an unassisted chin-up.
>
> Delenn

I only laughed because I tried it not too long ago. I try to see humor in my
imperfections.

Cindy
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* Proctologically Violated©® wrote, On 12/10/2006 2:52 PM:
> "Steve Freides" <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message

>> Is there a reason he can't lift in a gym? At his age, and until he learns
>> good form and safety, having someone around while he's lifting might be
>> better. That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking as the
>> parent of a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know everything.
>
> Steve Friedes thinks he knows everything!
> And he's right, in a middle-of-the-road sort of way, about 80% of the time.
>
> A good suggestion, btw. Even if it is only a short-term membership.
> Problem is to find a gym that will accept teenagers.
> Also, he can go awry, and think machines are actually Da Bomb.
> They aren't.
>
>> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
>> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and the
>> kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.
>
> What Steve really meant to say was, Check out PV and his HoloBarre.
> But he didn't cuz he don't talk to me anymore...
> My site is down, but it's archived.
> You could be my first sale!!

So give me a link to the archive because I don't know how to find it and I'm
tired and don't feel like thinking hard.

And, I could get an affordable membership at a gym through my daughter's
boyfriend, don't know if they'd accept teenagers. Plus it's a drive and I doubt
he would go WITH me, mothers can be so embarrassing, you know. I don't think he
minds me too much though, so I'll ask. Then we could both learn the proper way
to do things. And I won't buy him any machines. No room in the garage.

Cindy
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* Steve Freides wrote, On 12/10/2006 3:57 PM:
> "Tom Anderson" <twic.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0612102023510.22811@urchin.earth.li...
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>> And all parents of teenagers think they know nothing.
>
> I didn't say he didn't know anything, just that his opinion of his own
> knowledge isn't representative of reality. He knows plenty (and there
> are plenty of things he already does better than I do), but one doesn't
> trust a 14-year-old's opinion of his ability to lift safely and
> effectively without evidence and, for that matter, one doesn't trust an
> adult's opinion on the same subject without evidence, either. I've
> watched my 14-year-old lift - it's impressive, but it's not always safe.
> Most middle-aged adults I've seen err on the side of lifting too little
> weight to be effective, while most young men I've seen err of the side
> of trying to lift too much or use poor, often dangerous form to complete
> a lift they probably shouldn't have even started.
>

That's what I worry about. The boys used the weights in P.E. for awhile, now
they work out at each other's houses, most likely without supervision, and it
worries me. So I got the home gym, now need to learn something myself so I know
he's doing it right.

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Steve Freides wrote, On 12/10/2006 12:09 PM:
> "Cindy" <cinshep.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Is there a reason he can't lift in a gym? At his age, and until he
> learns good form and safety, having someone around while he's lifting
> might be better. That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking
> as the parent of a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know
> everything.

I'm not going to comment, as I'm wanting him to read this thread.
>
> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and the
> kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.

Hmm. Maybe we could put one in his doorway. I could even try it. LOL

>
> Just my opinion.
>
Thanks!

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Steve Freides wrote:

> A month or two ago I was at a bodyweight training weekend with Pavel and
> Steve Maxwell, entitled "Naked Warrior" after Pavel's book of the same
> name (see http://www.kbnj.com/nw.htm for more.) There were 4 women
> there, and 3 of them were not only doing pullups, then were doing pullup
> ladders to 3 reps, which means they were probably able to do at least 5
> in a single set.
>
> One of them was RKC Sara Cheatham, in David Cohen's city (like how I
> gave you the city, David?) of Las Vegas.

I don't believe it. In Las Vegas, female "Naked Warriors" are naked!

David
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Delenn wrote:
> Cindy wrote:
>
>>> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
>>> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and
>>> the kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Maybe we could put one in his doorway. I could even try it. LOL
>
> Sigh. I really wish you hadn't laughed at that as an idea.
>
> It's been a long-held goal of mine to do an unassisted chin-up.
>
> Delenn

Are you working toward it i.e. doing band-assisted or negative chins???

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Delenn wrote, On 12/10/2006 3:07 PM:
> Cindy wrote:
>
>> Good...I better let him use it. I will forward him these posts and
>> apologize for being such a momma. Thanks again, all of you! Maybe
>> I'll get him on this group and even use the thing myself. I could use
>> some muscle tone in certain places.
>
> Seriously, I thought you WERE here asking questions about weights for
> yourself when I first saw you in this thread. I was disappointed to see
> you weren't. I'm a middle-aged mother of teen-agers and I've been the
> one teaching them how to lift on MY equipment.
>
> Here, read this. You need to know this.
>
> http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
>
> Delenn

I took a weight-training class in college years ago. It was all about using
machines and gawking guys. I enjoyed the workouts, but don't remember much
about the proper way to do things and still don't enjoy being gawked at,
especially when I look in the mirror with fading memories of my teen-age
perfection. So I haven't gone to the gym.

Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it.

Cindy
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Steve Freides wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
> > Steve Freides wrote:
> >
> >> A month or two ago I was at a bodyweight training weekend with Pavel
> >> and
> >> Steve Maxwell, entitled "Naked Warrior" after Pavel's book of the
> >> same
> >> name (see http://www.kbnj.com/nw.htm for more.) There were 4 women
> >> there, and 3 of them were not only doing pullups, then were doing
> >> pullup
> >> ladders to 3 reps, which means they were probably able to do at least
> >> 5
> >> in a single set.
> >>
> >> One of them was RKC Sara Cheatham, in David Cohen's city (like how I
> >> gave you the city, David?) of Las Vegas.
> >
> > I don't believe it. In Las Vegas, female "Naked Warriors" are naked!
>
> If you read her myspace thing, she's actually stationed on an Air Force
> Base that I assume is in or nearby Las Vegas.

Nellis Air Force Base, the largest fighter base outside of Russia, home
of the Air Force Thunderbirds...yeah, it's in or nearby Las Vegas.

Our airmen are naked female warriors, too.

David
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165813926.194124.315250@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> A month or two ago I was at a bodyweight training weekend with Pavel
>> and
>> Steve Maxwell, entitled "Naked Warrior" after Pavel's book of the
>> same
>> name (see http://www.kbnj.com/nw.htm for more.) There were 4 women
>> there, and 3 of them were not only doing pullups, then were doing
>> pullup
>> ladders to 3 reps, which means they were probably able to do at least
>> 5
>> in a single set.
>>
>> One of them was RKC Sara Cheatham, in David Cohen's city (like how I
>> gave you the city, David?) of Las Vegas.
>
> I don't believe it. In Las Vegas, female "Naked Warriors" are naked!

If you read her myspace thing, she's actually stationed on an Air Force
Base that I assume is in or nearby Las Vegas. This is actually the
first time I've been on a myspace.com page - the whole thing seems oddly
overly personal to me, but then again, a bit of quick math finds that
I'm twice her age, so I guess being behind the times on some of these
things is OK.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

"Steve Freides" <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> A month or two ago I was at a bodyweight training weekend with Pavel
>>> and
>>> Steve Maxwell, entitled "Naked Warrior" after Pavel's book of the
>>> same
>>> name (see http://www.kbnj.com/nw.htm for more.) There were 4 women
>>> there, and 3 of them were not only doing pullups, then were doing
>>> pullup
>>> ladders to 3 reps, which means they were probably able to do at least
>>> 5
>>> in a single set.
>>>
>>> One of them was RKC Sara Cheatham, in David Cohen's city (like how I
>>> gave you the city, David?) of Las Vegas.
>>
>> I don't believe it. In Las Vegas, female "Naked Warriors" are naked!
>
>If you read her myspace thing, she's actually stationed on an Air Force
>Base that I assume is in or nearby Las Vegas. This is actually the
>first time I've been on a myspace.com page - the whole thing seems oddly
>overly personal to me, but then again, a bit of quick math finds that
>I'm twice her age, so I guess being behind the times on some of these
>things is OK.

Guess again, Steve. On myspace.com, there are women our age who post
the same stuff.
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