Weight training equipment upstairs?

Dnia 2006-12-10 Cindy napisa³(a):
> Hi,
> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>
> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one for
> Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor, which I
> thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But my ex tells me
> it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that if he drops the
> weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts alone, he might crack his chest.

Until he gets really strong, like benching three times of his current
bodyweight, there is no real danger. Do not worry, it will not happen
for many years.

> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs.

He *needs* to lift. You should encourage him. Feed him well and let
him lift.

> I told him he's not to take any weights
> over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow the equipment up
> there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS how to lift weights and
> would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR himself.

He probably will never do that. Let him get stronger. Being a
weakling is a pain for a man.

> Neither one gives me much confidence.
>
> What do youall think?
>
> Thanks,
> Worried mother

It's your job to be worried, but do not overdo it. Let your kid lift.

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 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

"Cindy" <cinshep.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>
> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one
> for Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor,
> which I thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But my
> ex tells me it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that if
> he drops the weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts alone, he
> might crack his chest.
>
> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs. I told him he's not to take any
> weights over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow the
> equipment up there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS how
> to lift weights and would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR himself.
> Neither one gives me much confidence.

What the others said.
BUT,
Shit *does* happen.

Put the whole shebang on 3/4 ply, w/ extra carpet you might find at the
dump, or outside a carpet place, beneath the footprint of the bench itself,
to reduce vibration/shock to the rest of the house.
Another cupla pcs of extra ply/carpet (about 2x2') beneath the *ends* of the
bars, where the plates are loaded, lest a plate drop.

Do this after the unit is positioned, to get a lay of the land.
If someone is handy around the house, safety bars could probably be kluged
together without too much trouble (2x2's, 2x4s, plumbing pipe, screws, hose
clamps, etc) to limit the lower bar travel in the bench, protecting the
neck, more than the chest.
Kids tend to fool around w/ their maximum lifts, and I would feel more
comfortable w/ such a feature.
Unless you are somehow able to enforce a "no lifting by yourself" rule.

Oh yeah, best present in the world.
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>
> What do youall think?
>
> Thanks,
> Worried mother
>
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Cindy wrote:
> * Proctologically Violated©® wrote, On 12/10/2006 8:23 AM:
> > "Cindy" <cinshep DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Your name made me smile. My sympathy for your condition....

He's got a few screws loose, an' he won't take da meds t' tighten 'em
down.

But don't get all sympathetic, tho. Da gubmint hands 'im an SSI check,
his ol' lady works t' pay da bills, an' he gets t' play on da innernet
all day. Purty cushy if'n ya ask me.
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Cindy wrote:
> * Proctologically Violated©® wrote, On 12/10/2006 8:23 AM:
> > "Cindy" <cinshep.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Your name made me smile. My sympathy for your condition....

He's got a few screws loose, an' he won't take da meds t' tighten 'em
down.

But don't get all sympathetic, tho. Da gubmint hands 'im an SSI check,
his ol' lady works t' pay da bills, an' he gets t' play on da innernet
all day. Purty cushy if'n ya ask me.
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Curt wrote, On 12/10/2006 12:45 AM:
> Cindy wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>>
>> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one for
>> Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor, which I
>> thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But my ex tells me
>> it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that if he drops the
>> weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts alone, he might crack his chest.
>>
>> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs. I told him he's not to take any weights
>> over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow the equipment up
>> there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS how to lift weights and
>> would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR himself. Neither one gives me much
>> confidence.
>>
>> What do youall think?
>
> I think your kid can lift without killing himself or your
> floor/ceiling. I started at age 15, too. Although I was 150 lbs., I
> doubt I was much stronger than your son. Additionally, I'm probably one
> of the most uncoordinated people you'll ever meet. I'm talking
> walk-and-chew-gum impaired. So, if I can lift and live to tell the tale
> then your son, I strongly suspect, can as well.

Well, he IS pretty coordinated.
>
> My first set of weights was a Sears plastic-covered concete set along
> with a detached picnic table bench. And, yeah, I did get the bar stuck
> on my chest a few times, but quickly figured out how to escape the
> death grip of the bar.
>
> If you fear that your son will drop the bar on his neck then an easy
> solution would be a pair of adjustable dumbbells instead of the
> barbell. At least for benches.
>
> Best of luck to your son and kudos to you for a great Christmas
> present, mom!

Thank you! I feel better. He says I am over-protective, maybe he's right. My
ex sees the negatives in everything and expects them all to happen, and he's not
even the kid's father.

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Andrzej Rosa wrote, On 12/10/2006 1:27 AM:
> Dnia 2006-12-10 Cindy napisał(a):
>> Hi,
>> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>>
>> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one for
>> Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor, which I
>> thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But my ex tells me
>> it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that if he drops the
>> weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts alone, he might crack his chest.
>
> Until he gets really strong, like benching three times of his current
> bodyweight, there is no real danger. Do not worry, it will not happen
> for many years.

That is good to know. I worry too much.
>
>> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs.
>
> He *needs* to lift. You should encourage him. Feed him well and let
> him lift.
>
I try to feed him well, but try to keep him away from the junk food! I had
to make a rule about him coming home to eat supper.

>> I told him he's not to take any weights
>> over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow the equipment up
>> there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS how to lift weights and
>> would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR himself.
>
> He probably will never do that. Let him get stronger. Being a
> weakling is a pain for a man.
>
>> Neither one gives me much confidence.
>>
>> What do youall think?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Worried mother
>
> It's your job to be worried, but do not overdo it. Let your kid lift.
>
Thank you! He's my youngest, I'm having a hard time letting him grow up.

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

"Cindy" <cinshep DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wBNeh.10577$wc5.1555@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Hi,
> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>
> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him
> one for Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second
> floor, which I thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere
> else. But my ex tells me it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs,
> claiming that if he drops the weights, he might crack the floor. And
> if he lifts alone, he might crack his chest.
>
> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs. I told him he's not to take
> any weights over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even
> allow the equipment up there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me
> he KNOWS how to lift weights and would NEVER drop the bar on the floor
> OR himself. Neither one gives me much confidence.
>
> What do you all think?

Is there a reason he can't lift in a gym? At his age, and until he
learns good form and safety, having someone around while he's lifting
might be better. That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking
as the parent of a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know
everything.

A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and the
kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.

Just my opinion.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

> Thanks,
> Worried mother
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

* Proctologically Violated©® wrote, On 12/10/2006 8:23 AM:
> "Cindy" <cinshep RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message

Your name made me smile. My sympathy for your condition....
>
> What the others said.
> BUT,
> Shit *does* happen.
>
> Put the whole shebang on 3/4 ply, w/ extra carpet you might find at the
> dump, or outside a carpet place, beneath the footprint of the bench itself,
> to reduce vibration/shock to the rest of the house.
> Another cupla pcs of extra ply/carpet (about 2x2') beneath the *ends* of the
> bars, where the plates are loaded, lest a plate drop.
>
> Do this after the unit is positioned, to get a lay of the land.
> If someone is handy around the house, safety bars could probably be kluged
> together without too much trouble (2x2's, 2x4s, plumbing pipe, screws, hose
> clamps, etc) to limit the lower bar travel in the bench, protecting the
> neck, more than the chest.

Thank you! Why can't I think of stuff like that?? ;P Darn Home Ec classes
really don't teach you what you need to know. They should make girls take Shop!

> Kids tend to fool around w/ their maximum lifts, and I would feel more
> comfortable w/ such a feature.
> Unless you are somehow able to enforce a "no lifting by yourself" rule.
>
Ha ha. Yah right. I would try, and he might even comply, depending how he felt
at the time. Darn kids.

> Oh yeah, best present in the world.

Good...I better let him use it. I will forward him these posts and apologize
for being such a momma. Thanks again, all of you! Maybe I'll get him on this
group and even use the thing myself. I could use some muscle tone in certain
places.

Cindy
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

*I* got it cushy? Cuz I got a workin wife??
Sheeit, jethro, you got 14 very willing sisters.... what could be cushier
than that??
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Cindy wrote:
> * Proctologically Violated©® wrote, On 12/10/2006 8:23 AM:
> > "Cindy" <cinshep DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> Your name made me smile. My sympathy for your condition....

He's got a few screws loose, an' he won't take da meds t' tighten 'em
down.

But don't get all sympathetic, tho. Da gubmint hands 'im an SSI check,
his ol' lady works t' pay da bills, an' he gets t' play on da innernet
all day. Purty cushy if'n ya ask me.
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

"Steve Freides" <steve.RemoveThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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> "Cindy" <cinshep.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wBNeh.10577$wc5.1555@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Hi,
>> I'm here to ask for your educated opinions on a potential problem.
>>
>> My son has been asking for a bench with bar and weights. I got him one
>> for Christmas. He wants to put it in his bedroom on the second floor,
>> which I thought a good idea because there's no room anywhere else. But
>> my ex tells me it's a really bad idea to have it upstairs, claiming that
>> if he drops the weights, he might crack the floor. And if he lifts
>> alone, he might crack his chest.
>>
>> The kid is 15 and weighs about 90 lbs. I told him he's not to take any
>> weights over 25 lbs. upstairs, but now I wonder if I should even allow
>> the equipment up there. Husband has me paranoid. Kid tells me he KNOWS
>> how to lift weights and would NEVER drop the bar on the floor OR himself.
>> Neither one gives me much confidence.
>>
>> What do you all think?
>
> Is there a reason he can't lift in a gym? At his age, and until he learns
> good form and safety, having someone around while he's lifting might be
> better. That he says he knows means exactly nothing, speaking as the
> parent of a 14-year-old boy. All teenagers think they know everything.

Steve Friedes thinks he knows everything!
And he's right, in a middle-of-the-road sort of way, about 80% of the time.

A good suggestion, btw. Even if it is only a short-term membership.
Problem is to find a gym that will accept teenagers.
Also, he can go awry, and think machines are actually Da Bomb.
They aren't.

>
> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and the
> kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.

What Steve really meant to say was, Check out PV and his HoloBarre.
But he didn't cuz he don't talk to me anymore...
My site is down, but it's archived.
You could be my first sale!!
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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>
> Just my opinion.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>> Thanks,
>> Worried mother
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Cindy wrote:

> Good...I better let him use it. I will forward him these posts and
> apologize for being such a momma. Thanks again, all of you! Maybe I'll
> get him on this group and even use the thing myself. I could use some
> muscle tone in certain places.

Seriously, I thought you WERE here asking questions about weights for
yourself when I first saw you in this thread. I was disappointed to see
you weren't. I'm a middle-aged mother of teen-agers and I've been the
one teaching them how to lift on MY equipment.

Here, read this. You need to know this.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

Delenn
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

Cindy wrote:

>> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
>> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and
>> the kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.
>
>
> Hmm. Maybe we could put one in his doorway. I could even try it. LOL

Sigh. I really wish you hadn't laughed at that as an idea.

It's been a long-held goal of mine to do an unassisted chin-up.

Delenn
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs? 

"Delenn" <Delenn RemoveThis @whoever.com> wrote in message
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> Cindy wrote:
>
>>> A chinup bar is a fine way to get him some upper body exercise and
>>> strength. We've got one at the foot of the basement stairs here and
>>> the kids sometimes will do a chinup every time they walk by.
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Maybe we could put one in his doorway. I could even try it.
>> LOL
>
> Sigh. I really wish you hadn't laughed at that as an idea.
>
> It's been a long-held goal of mine to do an unassisted chin-up.

My wife has done them in the past and just yesterday told me she wants
to get back into doing them again.

A month or two ago I was at a bodyweight training weekend with Pavel and
Steve Maxwell, entitled "Naked Warrior" after Pavel's book of the same
name (see http://www.kbnj.com/nw.htm for more.) There were 4 women
there, and 3 of them were not only doing pullups, then were doing pullup
ladders to 3 reps, which means they were probably able to do at least 5
in a single set.

One of them was RKC Sara Cheatham, in David Cohen's city (like how I
gave you the city, David?) of Las Vegas.
http://www.myspace.com/saracheatham

Another was RKC Yoana Snideman, who you can read about here on the web
site of the gym she and her husband own in La Jolla, CA.
http://www.revolutionlajolla.com

Both ladies were doing one-legged squats for reps, too.

I didn't know the other two women beforehand and don't remember their
names right now.

The strategy that worked for my wife was pretty simple - first practice
holds at the top position of a chinup, using a chair or whatever you
need to get there. Then practice lowering slowly and under control all
the way to the bottom. Once you can do a few controlled negatives with
only a short rest between, you'll be ready to perform a full-range
single chinup.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
 >> Stay informed about: Weight training equipment upstairs?