question about training with a rower

"Bully" <bully1.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>> "Tom Anderson" <twic.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0612061452080.26615@urchin.earth.li...
>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>>
>>>> And Ellington Darden thinks the BowFlex is better than weights.
>>>> And some PhD ex physio thinks the Ab Lounge is better than
>>>> crunches...
>>>
>>> And how many Olympic golds do those guys have between them, then?
>>>
>>> And is there really a misc.fitness.misc?
>>>
>>> As to backs and rowing - have you ever seen a rower's back? They are
>>> not
>>
>> Problem is not rowing. It's rowing machines.
>> Rowing proper is probably one of the best single activities in
>> existence, development/health-wise.
>
> Despite what most people "think" it's very good for rehabbing bad backs of
> one variety or another.
>
>>
>> Doesn't mean Cracknell is right, either. Might be he is talking
>> about real rowing similators, not the stuff pawned off on the
>> American Pubic.
>
> Cracknell was talking specifically about the Concept2; the interview took
> place at the British Indoor Rower Championship 2002. Actually, he prolly
> sponsored by them, BUT the British rowers HAVE always used the C2.

Well, I'd be real suspicious about claims then. Maybe there are C2s in the
Bri'ish gyms, but does that mean they're really used in serious training, or
as more of a warmup? Do you know f'sure?

Do you recall one of the classic American pieces of junk, the BodyBlade?
Very artful infomercial-ing, which really grated against all my
sensibilities.
So I called the PT depts of a few hospitals (the infomercial must have
mentioned them), and spoke to a director ( I believe the hospital was Our
Lady of Eternal Suffering and Occasional Evisceration), who said indeed,
they had BodyBlades. I said, What in God's name for, ferchrissakes??
She said, in essence, "as a diversion" for a captive audience.
A'ight....
So what is claimed to be true can indeed be true, but not quite true.
Context, donchaknow.

I think I tried a C2 back around then; was not at all impressed, did not
seem like the real rowing I remembered.
I don't see someone getting built from a C2 like they would from true
rowing.
Doesn't mean C2 rowing isn't useful for the exercising (m)asses, but boy, it
sure seemed different.
Mebbe the C2 I used was defective.... I'll try another one.

One thing is for sure: some hellified machining went into the C2, super
aluminum extruded tube in the main rail.
I've actually been looking for a tossed rower, haven't found one, just for
the *parts*.
The clothes-washing version was Da Bomb, tho.

So do you think Xyience stuff really works, as well? sponsoredMatt
Hughes'n'all.....
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1.TakeThisOut@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:4topqtF15bg9nU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>> "Tom Anderson" <twic.TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
>>> news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0612061452080.26615@urchin.earth.li...
>>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And Ellington Darden thinks the BowFlex is better than weights.
>>>>> And some PhD ex physio thinks the Ab Lounge is better than
>>>>> crunches...
>>>>
>>>> And how many Olympic golds do those guys have between them, then?
>>>>
>>>> And is there really a misc.fitness.misc?
>>>>
>>>> As to backs and rowing - have you ever seen a rower's back? They
>>>> are not
>>>
>>> Problem is not rowing. It's rowing machines.
>>> Rowing proper is probably one of the best single activities in
>>> existence, development/health-wise.
>>
>> Despite what most people "think" it's very good for rehabbing bad
>> backs of one variety or another.
>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't mean Cracknell is right, either. Might be he is talking
>>> about real rowing similators, not the stuff pawned off on the
>>> American Pubic.
>>
>> Cracknell was talking specifically about the Concept2; the interview
>> took place at the British Indoor Rower Championship 2002. Actually,
>> he prolly sponsored by them, BUT the British rowers HAVE always used
>> the C2.
>
> Well, I'd be real suspicious about claims then. Maybe there are C2s
> in the Bri'ish gyms, but does that mean they're really used in
> serious training, or as more of a warmup? Do you know f'sure?

I know, for sure, that they use them for all off-water rowing training.

>
> Do you recall one of the classic American pieces of junk, the
> BodyBlade? Very artful infomercial-ing, which really grated against
> all my sensibilities.
> So I called the PT depts of a few hospitals (the infomercial must have
> mentioned them), and spoke to a director ( I believe the hospital was
> Our Lady of Eternal Suffering and Occasional Evisceration), who said
> indeed, they had BodyBlades. I said, What in God's name for,
> ferchrissakes?? She said, in essence, "as a diversion" for a captive
> audience.
> A'ight....
> So what is claimed to be true can indeed be true, but not quite true.
> Context, donchaknow.
>
> I think I tried a C2 back around then; was not at all impressed, did
> not seem like the real rowing I remembered.
> I don't see someone getting built from a C2 like they would from true
> rowing.
> Doesn't mean C2 rowing isn't useful for the exercising (m)asses, but
> boy, it sure seemed different.
> Mebbe the C2 I used was defective.... I'll try another one.

Technique is KING! Check out the Concept 2 web site for some advice. Leave
the damper control on level 4. Row at 2:00/500m for 30 mins at a stroke rate
of 24-26. Then report back!

>
> One thing is for sure: some hellified machining went into the C2,
> super aluminum extruded tube in the main rail.
> I've actually been looking for a tossed rower, haven't found one,
> just for the *parts*.
> The clothes-washing version was Da Bomb, tho.
>
> So do you think Xyience stuff really works, as well? sponsoredMatt
> Hughes'n'all.....

Xyience is very good... at advertising [from
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=71446]. Never heard of it.
Are you 100% sure that Matt Hughes uses it


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>>
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>>
>> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
>> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss


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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss