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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:02 pm
Post subject: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac joint ?
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I was hoping someone might be able to give me some pointers regarding
some possible self traction? I have done all manner of stretches and
exercises, but there is one particular thing I am trying to achieve,
but need some advice what/how to go about it.
When lying on my back with my head pointing away from the wall, thighs
vertical, calves horizontal, and feet planted against the wall.....I
want to effect a kind of traction where my thighs are pulled
horizontally towards the wall. I have a pole outside, near the wall,
where I have tried this by tying a thick rope around my thighs (near
my hips), attached it to the pole, then pushed against the wall with
my feet. The problem is that the rope simply cuts into my legs too
much, before I can achieve any significant stretch. I have tried
"forward flexion" over an upright stool inside, and this stretch
targets the exact area in question, except there is nothing for me to
anchor my feet to, so the stretch is way way too mild. The trick seems
to be to have my torso and thighs more or less at 90 degrees when I
effect the stretch on my hips. Any advice?
Also, if I stand with one foot on a gutter, and the other foot hanging
in free space.....if I hang onto a pole for balance and swing the "free
leg" backwards and forwards, this feels fantastic, but it just isn't
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:16 pm
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"shaz likd" wrote:
> I was hoping someone might be able to give me some pointers regarding
> some possible self traction?
> .....so the stretch is way way too mild. The trick seems
> .....this feels fantastic, but it just isn't intense enough.
What are you trying for, an orgasm?
Have you looked for any of those dark ages, dungeon-style stretching racks?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:07 am
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The best I can remember,,, this guy had a kind of machine that helps you
with stretching.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://home.gci.net/~cushman4/oa-gcs.htm
I am not sure this works but give it a try,,, oh,,, I mean the link. His
machine does.
Harv
"shaz likd" wrote in message
>I was hoping someone might be able to give me some pointers regarding
> some possible self traction? I have done all manner of stretches and
> exercises, but there is one particular thing I am trying to achieve,
> but need some advice what/how to go about it.
> When lying on my back with my head pointing away from the wall, thighs
> vertical, calves horizontal, and feet planted against the wall.....I
> want to effect a kind of traction where my thighs are pulled
> horizontally towards the wall. I have a pole outside, near the wall,
> where I have tried this by tying a thick rope around my thighs (near
> my hips), attached it to the pole, then pushed against the wall with
> my feet. The problem is that the rope simply cuts into my legs too
> much, before I can achieve any significant stretch. I have tried
> "forward flexion" over an upright stool inside, and this stretch
> targets the exact area in question, except there is nothing for me to
> anchor my feet to, so the stretch is way way too mild. The trick seems
> to be to have my torso and thighs more or less at 90 degrees when I
> effect the stretch on my hips. Any advice?
> Also, if I stand with one foot on a gutter, and the other foot hanging
> in free space.....if I hang onto a pole for balance and swing the "free
> leg" backwards and forwards, this feels fantastic, but it just isn't
> intense enough.
> >> Stay informed about: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac.. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:33 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:17 am
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On Aug 31, 10:38 pm, "Blinded" wrote:
> "David Cohen" wrote in message
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> >http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.htmlor any of many similar devices.
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> > Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
>
> > David
>
> Damn, could not have planned for us both to post that info only 4 minutes
> apart
You know what they say about great minds 
David >> Stay informed about: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac.. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:06 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:13 pm
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"Omelet" wrote
> David Cohen wrote:
>
>> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar devices.
>>
>> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
>
> David,
>
> I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they can
> hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
>
> Do you think that would work?
Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full free
hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows infinite
angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
David >> Stay informed about: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac.. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:34 pm
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In article ,
"David Cohen" wrote:
> "Omelet" wrote
> > David Cohen wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar devices.
> >>
> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they can
> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
> >
> > Do you think that would work?
>
> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full free
> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows infinite
> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
>
> David
Very cool.
What angle works best for Sciatica?
I guess it'd vary with the individual?
Yoga works pretty well right now, plus Ibuprofen and a body pillow.
Bad sleeping position exacerbates it.
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Peace, Om
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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson >> Stay informed about: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac.. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:34 pm
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"Omelet" wrote
> "David Cohen" wrote:
>> "Omelet" wrote
>> > David Cohen wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar devices.
>> >>
>> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
>> >
>> > David,
>> >
>> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they
>> > can
>> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
>> >
>> > Do you think that would work?
>>
>> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full
>> free
>> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows
>> infinite
>> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
>
> Very cool.
>
> What angle works best for Sciatica?
Vertical free hanging, but you have to work up to it gradually.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:43 pm
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In article ,
"David Cohen" wrote:
> "Omelet" wrote
> > "David Cohen" wrote:
> >> "Omelet" wrote
> >> > David Cohen wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar devices.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
> >> >
> >> > David,
> >> >
> >> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they
> >> > can
> >> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
> >> >
> >> > Do you think that would work?
> >>
> >> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full
> >> free
> >> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows
> >> infinite
> >> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
> >
> > Very cool.
> >
> > What angle works best for Sciatica?
>
> Vertical free hanging, but you have to work up to it gradually.
>
> David
Thanks.
I'm not having to deal with it with any great frequency, but it does
happen. Makes me limp around work for a few days. Ibuprofen tears up my
stomach if I use it daily for more than 3 days.
I have a co-worker however that misses work due to it (Sciatica) . To
date, it's never taken me down to THAT level. I've always managed to
work thru the pain. But, I never have believed in bed rest for Sciatic
pain for various reasons.
I'll pass the advice on to her and see if she listens.
Could be I have a higher pain tolerance too and am not afraid to OD a
but on Ibuprofen.  Only for a short term...
She finally listened one day and upped the Ibuprofen dose and she was a
LOT better within 3 days. She'd been suffering badly for 2 weeks and had
missed 5 days of work.
I often wonder how far one can push that drug within reasonable limits.
As well as it works, I'm surprised it ever went OTC.
She was depending a bit too much on Tylenol. ;-p
If I can use inversion to relieve the pressure, I'd rather do that tho'.
I don't want to stress my kidneys too much. <g>
--
Peace, Om
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:53 pm
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"Omelet" wrote
> "David Cohen" wrote:
>> "Omelet" wrote
>> > "David Cohen" wrote:
>> >> "Omelet" wrote
>> >> > David Cohen wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar
>> >> >> devices.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression
>> >> >> problems.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they
>> >> > can
>> >> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you think that would work?
>> >>
>> >> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full
>> >> free
>> >> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows
>> >> infinite
>> >> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
>> >
>> > Very cool.
>> >
>> > What angle works best for Sciatica?
>>
>> Vertical free hanging, but you have to work up to it gradually.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I'm not having to deal with it with any great frequency, but it does
> happen. Makes me limp around work for a few days. Ibuprofen tears up my
> stomach if I use it daily for more than 3 days.
>
> I have a co-worker however that misses work due to it (Sciatica) . To
> date, it's never taken me down to THAT level. I've always managed to
> work thru the pain. But, I never have believed in bed rest for Sciatic
> pain for various reasons.
>
> I'll pass the advice on to her and see if she listens.
> Could be I have a higher pain tolerance too and am not afraid to OD a
> but on Ibuprofen. Only for a short term...
>
> She finally listened one day and upped the Ibuprofen dose and she was a
> LOT better within 3 days. She'd been suffering badly for 2 weeks and had
> missed 5 days of work.
>
> I often wonder how far one can push that drug within reasonable limits.
> As well as it works, I'm surprised it ever went OTC.
>
> She was depending a bit too much on Tylenol. ;-p
>
> If I can use inversion to relieve the pressure, I'd rather do that tho'.
> I don't want to stress my kidneys too much. <g>
Or your liver?
Anyway, drugs cover up the pain but cure nothing. Inversion can virtually
cure the problem.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:47 pm
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Omelet wrote:
> I'm not having to deal with it with any great frequency, but it does
> happen. Makes me limp around work for a few days. Ibuprofen
> tears up my stomach if I use it daily for more than 3 days.
> I often wonder how far one can push that drug within reasonable limits.
> As well as it works, I'm surprised it ever went OTC.
I was taking Rx strength INDOCIN 3x50 daily between 1976 and 2000 for
ankylosing spondylitis.
Never once had a stomach problem and though it did not stop the progression
of the disease, it did ease the pain (especially in the morning).
The FDA did approve a weak, "sissy" formula/version after I began taking the
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:26 am
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On Sep 1, 4:43 pm, Omelet wrote:
> In article ,
> "David Cohen" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Omelet" wrote
> > > "David Cohen" wrote:
> > >> "Omelet" wrote
> > >> > David Cohen wrote:
>
> > >> >>http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.htmlor any of many similar devices.
>
> > >> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
>
> > >> > David,
>
> > >> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they
> > >> > can
> > >> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
>
> > >> > Do you think that would work?
>
> > >> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full
> > >> free
> > >> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows
> > >> infinite
> > >> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
>
> > > Very cool.
>
> > > What angle works best for Sciatica?
>
> > Vertical free hanging, but you have to work up to it gradually.
>
> > David
>
> Thanks.
>
> I'm not having to deal with it with any great frequency, but it does
> happen. Makes me limp around work for a few days. Ibuprofen tears up my
> stomach if I use it daily for more than 3 days.
>
> I have a co-worker however that misses work due to it (Sciatica) . To
> date, it's never taken me down to THAT level. I've always managed to
> work thru the pain. But, I never have believed in bed rest for Sciatic
> pain for various reasons.
>
> I'll pass the advice on to her and see if she listens.
> Could be I have a higher pain tolerance too and am not afraid to OD a
> but on Ibuprofen. Only for a short term...
>
> She finally listened one day and upped the Ibuprofen dose and she was a
> LOT better within 3 days. She'd been suffering badly for 2 weeks and had
> missed 5 days of work.
>
> I often wonder how far one can push that drug within reasonable limits.
> As well as it works, I'm surprised it ever went OTC.
>
> She was depending a bit too much on Tylenol. ;-p
>
> If I can use inversion to relieve the pressure, I'd rather do that tho'.
> I don't want to stress my kidneys too much. <g>
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:16 am
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In article ,
"David Cohen" wrote:
> > If I can use inversion to relieve the pressure, I'd rather do that tho'.
> > I don't want to stress my kidneys too much. <g>
>
> Or your liver?
>
>
I thought Ibuprofen only stressed the kidneys?
Am I mistaken in that?
I don't use acetaminophen at all as it does not work for ANYthing.
>
> Anyway, drugs cover up the pain but cure nothing. Inversion can virtually
> cure the problem.
>
> David
That is why I was interested in it.
I understand the concept.
--
Peace, Om
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:36 am
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"David Cohen" wrote in message
> "Omelet" wrote
>> "David Cohen" wrote:
>>> "Omelet" wrote
>>> > David Cohen wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> http://www.teeterhangups.com/home.html or any of many similar
>>> >> devices.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cured my decades of chronic L5-S1 and SI joint compression problems.
>>> >
>>> > David,
>>> >
>>> > I'd considered getting an inversion table (or just the boots as they
>>> > can
>>> > hook over a fixed bar) for treating the occasional sciatic pain.
>>> >
>>> > Do you think that would work?
>>>
>>> Yup. But get the inversion table, not the boots. Boots allow only full
>>> free
>>> hanging inversion, which can be dangerous. Inversion table allows
>>> infinite
>>> angles, from horizontal to free hanging vertical.
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>> What angle works best for Sciatica?
>
> Vertical free hanging, but you have to work up to it gradually.
Wow!! Can you do that???
>
> David
> >> Stay informed about: Self traction - Hips / Deep lower lumbar area / Sacroiliac.. |
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