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Omelet

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:00 pm
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711191157080.10583.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li>,
Tom Anderson <twic.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711182221180.11908.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li>,
> > Tom Anderson <twic.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> >
> >> Hot baths are good for all forms of aches.
> >
> > Jacuzzi. Wink
> >
> > Good advice!
>
> Almost unheard of in the UK, sadly. If i had one, i think i'd only be able
> to bring myself to use it when i had a bottle of Cristal and two or three
> hos on my arm. So most nights, i guess.

So eat a couple of bowls of beans, then take a hot bath. <g>

>
> But look at this bad bod: combo jacuzzi, shower and sauna:
>
> http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11133615/Brand_New_Steam_Sauna_Jacuzzi_Whirlpoo
> l_Sauna_Shower_Bathtub.html
>
> !!!
>
> tom

Oh that's cool!
When I win the lottery and build my luxury home, I'll get one. Wink
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:04 pm
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On Nov 19, 6:57 am, Tom Anderson <t... DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
[...]

> Although i don't know a good free-weight
> alternative to pulldowns for those who can't
> manage pullups; assisted pullups, i guess.

Good guess. You da man.

Assisted pullups courtesy of negatives. Take a box or chair or step,
jump to the top position of the chin/pullup and then lower slowly -
performing the negative stroke of the movement. Pop up again to the
top position with the assistance of the aforementioned boxchairstep
and lower away for five to ten reps. Eventually you'll be able to do
full rep - the positive and negative without assistance.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:06 pm
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On Nov 19, 7:00 am, Tom Anderson <t....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Omelet wrote:
> > In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711182221180.11....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li>,
> > Tom Anderson <t....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>
> >> Hot baths are good for all forms of aches.
>
> > Jacuzzi. Wink
>
> > Good advice!
>
> Almost unheard of in the UK, sadly. If i had one, i think i'd only be able
> to bring myself to use it when i had a bottle of Cristal and two or three
> hos on my arm. So most nights, i guess.
>
> But look at this bad bod: combo jacuzzi, shower and sauna:
>
> http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11133615/Brand_New_Steam_Sauna_Jacuzzi...
>
> !!!

Sadly, it does not list HO SPECIFICATIONS. Surprised(

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:11 pm
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In article
<164a99bc-1fbb-405a-99b5-be06ab67c926 RemoveThis @p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 19, 7:00 am, Tom Anderson <t... RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Omelet wrote:
> > > In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711182221180.11... RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li>,
> > > Tom Anderson <t... RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> >
> > >> Hot baths are good for all forms of aches.
> >
> > > Jacuzzi. Wink
> >
> > > Good advice!
> >
> > Almost unheard of in the UK, sadly. If i had one, i think i'd only be able
> > to bring myself to use it when i had a bottle of Cristal and two or three
> > hos on my arm. So most nights, i guess.
> >
> > But look at this bad bod: combo jacuzzi, shower and sauna:
> >
> > http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11133615/Brand_New_Steam_Sauna_Jacuzzi...
> >
> > !!!
>
> Sadly, it does not list HO SPECIFICATIONS. Surprised(
>
> --

You mean Ho Capacity?
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:57 pm
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On Nov 19, 10:14 pm, "Burr" <pitzra....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Curt" <curtja....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0d8ea2d7-2044-40d8-9add-9c6122f5c579@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 6:57 am, Tom Anderson <t....RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> > [...]
>
> >> Although i don't know a good free-weight
> >> alternative to pulldowns for those who can't
> >> manage pullups; assisted pullups, i guess.
>
> > Good guess. You da man.
>
> > Assisted pullups courtesy of negatives. Take a box or chair or step,
> > jump to the top position of the chin/pullup and then lower slowly -
> > performing the negative stroke of the movement. Pop up again to the
> > top position with the assistance of the aforementioned boxchairstep
> > and lower away for five to ten reps. Eventually you'll be able to do
> > full rep - the positive and negative without assistance.
>
> >
>
> Curt, that's great, I'll try that on some of the things I can't get my fat
> ass up on!!!
>
> Burr
>
> Big, Lean, Mean & Clean
>
> Subs. Iron Mind 20 yrs.

It really works. I was doing negs because I was/am pathetic on chins
and then after a few workouts I could complete a few full chins.
Huzzah! Surprised)

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:14 am
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"Curt" <curtjames DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d8ea2d7-2044-40d8-9add-9c6122f5c579@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 19, 6:57 am, Tom Anderson <t... DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Although i don't know a good free-weight
>> alternative to pulldowns for those who can't
>> manage pullups; assisted pullups, i guess.
>
> Good guess. You da man.
>
> Assisted pullups courtesy of negatives. Take a box or chair or step,
> jump to the top position of the chin/pullup and then lower slowly -
> performing the negative stroke of the movement. Pop up again to the
> top position with the assistance of the aforementioned boxchairstep
> and lower away for five to ten reps. Eventually you'll be able to do
> full rep - the positive and negative without assistance.
>
> --

Curt, that's great, I'll try that on some of the things I can't get my fat
ass up on!!!

Burr

Big, Lean, Mean & Clean

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:21 pm
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Omelet wrote:

> In article
> <164a99bc-1fbb-405a-99b5-be06ab67c926.DeleteThis@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> Curt <curtjames.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 19, 7:00 am, Tom Anderson <t....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Omelet wrote:
>>>> In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711182221180.11....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li>,
>>>> Tom Anderson <t....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hot baths are good for all forms of aches.
>>>>
>>>> Jacuzzi. Wink
>>>
>>> Almost unheard of in the UK, sadly. If i had one, i think i'd only be
>>> able to bring myself to use it when i had a bottle of Cristal and two
>>> or three hos on my arm. So most nights, i guess.
>>>
>>> But look at this bad bod: combo jacuzzi, shower and sauna:
>>>
>>> http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11133615/Brand_New_Steam_Sauna_Jacuzzi_...rlpool_
>>>
>>> !!!
>>
>> Sadly, it does not list HO SPECIFICATIONS. Surprised(

Hos not included.

> You mean Ho Capacity?

It says 62" X 62" X 88". I'm guessing that's 7' 4" tall, 5' 2" wide in
either direction. It's not square, though, more like a quarter of a circle
- that would give it an area of 1.95 square metres. How many hos you could
fit in that space depends on how you pack them - the standard for crush
loading on a train, which is an uncomfortable situation to be in on public
transport, but has its compensations when it's more of a naked, wet and
bootyful scenario, is eight per square metre, which would mean you plus
fourteen hos. I'm not suggesting this as standard operating proceedre,
though - i would suggest three hos would be a comfortable load.

This is all assuming standing action. If sitting in the tub, the player
plus two hos is probably a tight fit.

tom

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:21 pm
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Jim Janney wrote:

> Tom Anderson <twic.TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Hard Bop Drums wrote:
>>
>>> Zamdrist" <zamdrist.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4112a452-202e-4801-8001-65ec1c1f2fac@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I stretched out before and after
>>>
>>> The most recent studies show that static pre workout stretching is
>>> not such a good idea. Dynamic stretching is more advantageous.
>>
>> Dynamic stretching? What's that then?
>
> Basically, dynamic stretching focuses on moving through a range of
> motion, as opposed to static stretching where you go into a stretch and
> then hold it. Prolonged static stretching tends to detune the CNS.
> This is good if you're trying to inhibit the stretch reflex and increase
> your ROM, not so good if you want to perform at your best afterward.
> For a detailed discussion, see
>
> http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/docs/rec/stretching/stretching_4.html#SEC28

Thanks, will read up on this.

tom

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:14 pm
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:49:44 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article
> <99c6d150-d5a6-4f72-b330-4a8dd02dc923.DeleteThis@41g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> Curt <curtjames.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 18, 9:53 am, Zamdrist <zamdr....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So I just just started lifting weights again...
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> > I've never really
>> > lifted consistently for a long period of time, but that is the plan at
>> > least.
>> >
>> > Yesterday I stretched out before and after, and drank loads of water.
>> > I did three repetitions of 10...
>>
>> You did three SETS of 10 repetitions...
>>
>> Vocab. I'm easily confused, but I have those terms correct. ;o)
>>
>> > chest press, lat pull downs, curls.
>> > Concentrating largely on upper body strength.
>> >
>> > The plan thus far is to work out Monday, Thursday, Saturday.
>>
>> Sounds great.
>>
>> > No pain no gain I know! But damn...I hope it subsides enough for me to
>> > lift come Monday, I can hardly lift my arms over my head!
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>> Delayed onset muscle soreness or DOMS. It'll pass. Keep lifting.
>>
>> --
>> Curt
>
> When I was in college, I took some weight lifting as a PE class. The
> instructor suggested that I re-work the sorest muscles during the next
> session to alleviate some of the soreness.
>
> It's been too long, I don't recall if it worked or not.
>
> I just learned to ignore DOMS. It's a good way to increase pain
> tolerance, and that is not a bad thing. Oddly enough, I actually learned
> to welcome it. It made me feel virtuous and ceased to bother me at all.
>
> Wink
>
> If you really cannot stand it, try some Ibuprofen. Only issue is that
> that is supposed to interfere with muscle adaptation and development.
> The muscle inflammation is supposed to part of what triggers your body
> to make them stronger.
>
> Or so I have read...
>
> YMMV.


Even though it may not work for everyone, my experience has been that
doing another workout is one of the best ways to get rids of soreness. If
i put off working out, the soreness stays for a week or more. If i work
out again, it clears it up for the most part. Periodic static stretching
through out the day seems to offer a bit of relief too, but not as much as
the next workout.
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