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mikelebien

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:05 pm
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I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
don't want to join a gym.

Contemplating:

1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
2. a set of dumbells + bench.
3. jogging
4. crunches

I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
workout (books, dvd's?).

Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?

Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?

appreciate experienced opinions

simple

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:51 pm
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mikelebien.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

>I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
>don't want to join a gym.
>
>Contemplating:
>
>1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
>2. a set of dumbells + bench.
>3. jogging
>4. crunches
>
>I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
>should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
>workout (books, dvd's?).
>
>Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?

It can be done, but it won't be as effective with the type of
high-repetition routine inherent in the use of that equipment. You'll
want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
squats with as much weight as you can add.

>Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?

Worry about that after you see how the lifting regimen works.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:16 am
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<mikelebien.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
> don't want to join a gym.
>
> Contemplating:
>
> 1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
> 2. a set of dumbells + bench.
> 3. jogging
> 4. crunches
>
> I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
> should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
> workout (books, dvd's?).
>
> Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?
>
> Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?
>
> appreciate experienced opinions
>
> simple
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:14 am
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"JMW" <jmwilliams.DeleteThis@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> mikelebien.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
> >don't want to join a gym.
> >
> >Contemplating:
> >
> >1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
> >2. a set of dumbells + bench.
> >3. jogging
> >4. crunches
> >
> >I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
> >should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
> >workout (books, dvd's?).
> >
> >Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?
>
> It can be done, but it won't be as effective with the type of
> high-repetition routine inherent in the use of that equipment. You'll
> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
> squats with as much weight as you can add.
>
> >Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?
>
> Worry about that after you see how the lifting regimen works.

Whey? I mean why?
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Andrzej Rosa

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:14 am
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mikelebien.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
> don't want to join a gym.
>
> Contemplating:
>
> 1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)

Good backpack will be cheaper and fully adjustable.

> 2. a set of dumbells + bench.
> 3. jogging
> 4. crunches
>
> I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
> should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
> workout (books, dvd's?).

Don't know about books or DVDs, but there is plenty of what you are looking
for on the net.

> Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?

Yes. High stepups, Bulgarian split squats, dumbbells squats, dumbbell front
squats, dumbbell cleans, lunges. Whole loads of good exercises which you
can do. For calves you need mostly standing calf extensions (one leg at a
time).

> Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?
>
> appreciate experienced opinions

I train at home with minimal equipment. Works well for me.

> simple

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:14 am
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JMW wrote:

> mikelebien.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
>>don't want to join a gym.
>>
>>Contemplating:
>>
>>1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
>>2. a set of dumbells + bench.
>>3. jogging
>>4. crunches
>>
>>I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
>>should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
>>workout (books, dvd's?).
>>
>>Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?
>
> It can be done, but it won't be as effective with the type of
> high-repetition routine inherent in the use of that equipment.

Why do you think that the dumbbell based routine must be "highly
repetitive"? They are probably the most versatile training equipment there
exist, so if one wants variety he can have it. And why variety would be
necessary? There are some people who simply prefer doing plenty of various
exercises, but others concentrate on chosen few and often have better
results than those who hop around the gym from one machine to another. I
don't think that changing exercises frequently makes any substantial
difference.

> You'll
> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
> squats with as much weight as you can add.

Here you have it. Dumbbell squats, chins and dips. What's wrong with this
routine?

>>Any supplements to recommend (whey, creatine, etc.)?
>
> Worry about that after you see how the lifting regimen works.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:17 am
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Andrzej Rosa <bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>JMW wrote:
>
>> mikelebien.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
>>>don't want to join a gym.
>>>
>>>Contemplating:
>>>
>>>1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
>>>2. a set of dumbells + bench.
>>>3. jogging
>>>4. crunches
>>>
>>>I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
>>>should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
>>>workout (books, dvd's?).
>>>
>>>Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?
>>
>> It can be done, but it won't be as effective with the type of
>> high-repetition routine inherent in the use of that equipment.
>
>Why do you think that the dumbbell based routine must be "highly
>repetitive"? They are probably the most versatile training equipment there
>exist, so if one wants variety he can have it. And why variety would be
>necessary? There are some people who simply prefer doing plenty of various
>exercises, but others concentrate on chosen few and often have better
>results than those who hop around the gym from one machine to another. I
>don't think that changing exercises frequently makes any substantial
>difference.

Read it again. Think hard. Understand what I meant.

>> You'll
>> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
>> squats with as much weight as you can add.
>
>Here you have it. Dumbbell squats, chins and dips. What's wrong with this
>routine?

Nothing. He just won't have enough weight.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:16 pm
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JMW wrote:

> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>JMW wrote:
>>
>>> mikelebien.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
>>>>don't want to join a gym.
>>>>
>>>>Contemplating:
>>>>
>>>>1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
>>>>2. a set of dumbells + bench.
>>>>3. jogging
>>>>4. crunches
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
>>>>should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
>>>>workout (books, dvd's?).
>>>>
>>>>Can I increase mass on legs/calves using weight vest and dumbells?
>>>
>>> It can be done, but it won't be as effective with the type of
>>> high-repetition routine inherent in the use of that equipment.
>>
>>Why do you think that the dumbbell based routine must be "highly
>>repetitive"? They are probably the most versatile training equipment there
>>exist, so if one wants variety he can have it. And why variety would be
>>necessary? There are some people who simply prefer doing plenty of various
>>exercises, but others concentrate on chosen few and often have better
>>results than those who hop around the gym from one machine to another. I
>>don't think that changing exercises frequently makes any substantial
>>difference.
>
> Read it again. Think hard. Understand what I meant.

OK. I got it this time.

>>> You'll
>>> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
>>> squats with as much weight as you can add.
>>
>>Here you have it. Dumbbell squats, chins and dips. What's wrong with this
>>routine?
>
> Nothing. He just won't have enough weight.

Why not? He's 150 lbs and one can put as much weight on a single adjustable
dumbbell.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:16 pm
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Andrzej Rosa <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>JMW wrote:
>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>JMW wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You'll
>>>> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
>>>> squats with as much weight as you can add.
>>>
>>>Here you have it. Dumbbell squats, chins and dips. What's wrong with this
>>>routine?
>>
>> Nothing. He just won't have enough weight.
>
>Why not? He's 150 lbs and one can put as much weight on a single adjustable
>dumbbell.

How long can you hold a 150-pound dumbbell, Andrzej? Have you ever
tried? Have you ever tried holding one even near that weight? And if
so, have you done it bouncing up and down for squats?

It's not nearly as easy as you think. That said, he could probably
buy a cheap Swiss ball, do wall/ball squats, and get a fair amount of
benefit from lighter dumbbells.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:16 pm
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JMW wrote:

> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>JMW wrote:
>>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>JMW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll
>>>>> want to put a lot of concentration on weighted chins and dips, and
>>>>> squats with as much weight as you can add.
>>>>
>>>>Here you have it. Dumbbell squats, chins and dips. What's wrong with this
>>>>routine?
>>>
>>> Nothing. He just won't have enough weight.
>>
>>Why not? He's 150 lbs and one can put as much weight on a single adjustable
>>dumbbell.
>
> How long can you hold a 150-pound dumbbell, Andrzej? Have you ever
> tried?

I did heavy dumbbell shrugs in my time. I used straps for my target weight.
(I don't remember how heavy those dumbbells were. On the heavy side of the
rack, but most probably not that heavy.)

> Have you ever tried holding one even near that weight? And if
> so, have you done it bouncing up and down for squats?
>
> It's not nearly as easy as you think.

I know. I actually tried that. Exercises do not have to be easy to be
effective. Wink

> That said, he could probably
> buy a cheap Swiss ball, do wall/ball squats, and get a fair amount of
> benefit from lighter dumbbells.

Or do single leg workouts. Or plenty of other things. Whatever he chooses to do,
limited equipment most probably won't be a limiting factor, and that is what I
wanted to say here.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:43 am
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In article <1172973944.409333.192900 RemoveThis @n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
mikelebien RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:

> I'm 44, 150lb. I want to put on 10-15 lbs, increase vitality, and
> don't want to join a gym.
>
> Contemplating:
>
> 1. a weight vest (pull ups, push ups, dips, lunges)
> 2. a set of dumbells + bench.
> 3. jogging
> 4. crunches
>
> I'm wondering if this would make sense.

For putting on 15lbs of smuscle? No. For general fitness, yes.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:51 am
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>> I'm wondering if this would make sense. If so, wondering where I
>> should look for good instruction on proper technique for dumbell
>> workout (books, dvd's?).

I was building a very basic set up for a house use.
Not due to recent divorce Smile , simply very hectic life, never met deadlines
but huge desire to be still able to do some work out w/o wasting an hour drive
to the nearest gym. I bought myself a book on Mistress Krista advice and with
all honesty I really happy with it:
"Men's Health Home Workout Bible"
http://www.amazon.com/Mens-Health-Home-Workout-Bible/dp/1579546579

Let me paste a quote from one of the comments, it describe it well:

"The author divide the exercises into major sections, depending on what kind of
equipment you have at your disposal: no weights at all (i.e. use bodyweight only
and makeshift weights from things found around the house), dumbbells, barbells,
and exercise machine...."

regards

Sebastian
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