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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:44 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:44 pm
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In article <KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, "Chris"
<Gotohell DeleteThis @yourliesure.com> wrote:
> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for the
> siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
Most often sciatic pain is a result of radiculopathy. So in more
understandable terms a disc has protruded from its normal position in the
vertebral column and is putting pressure on the radicular nerve which
connects with the sciatic nerve.
So basically you've got two problems. Pressure from the protuding disc
(often referred to as 'ruptured', but that is a little misleading) and
inflamation of the radicular nerve.
Obviously for inflammation NSAIDS such as ibuprofen can help. Rest helps.
It is a difficult area to ice, but if you can stand it ice baths help.
For pressure stretching the spinal region can help as well as avoiding
exercise which compress the spinal column. So squats and OH lifts are out.
Back raises (back extensions often called 'hyper' extensions) are in. I
like just hanging from a bar for 2-3 minutes after I squat heavy to
stretch my spine a bit.
Okay, this is a little off the beaten path and n=1 and all that, but I did
a number of treatments for a similiar nerve impingement caused by muscle
hypertrophy (piriformis syndrome) and acupuncture ended up being the
answer. I had done physio and massage prior to acupuncture. I dislike
chiro - I've had it done a few times and never found it to be anything
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:44 pm
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"Chris" <Gotohell.DeleteThis@yourliesure.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
> for the
> siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
Start by going to http://www.optp.com or your local book store and
purchasing a book by Robin McKenzie called Treat Your Own Back. There
is now a newer version of it called "7 Steps To A Pain Free ...." - I
forget the rest of the title. This is solid, conservative,
well-documented advice on what causes many lower back problems, what you
can do to help relieve your pain now, and what you can do in the long
run to prevent it from happening again or getting worse.
After that, think about getting stronger and becoming more flexible. I
suffered a serious back injury and, through a lot of hard work, have
recovered to the point where, although I haven't posted any stellar
numbers, I am at least competing in powerlifting competitions, including
performing lifts that can compress the spine. If you poke around my web
site you'll find more information on my history and my training.
-S-
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:44 pm
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In article <khobman800-0203051006410001@localhost>,
khobman800 DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com (Hobbes) wrote:
> In article <KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, "Chris"
> <Gotohell DeleteThis @yourliesure.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for the
> > siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>
> Most often sciatic pain is a result of radiculopathy. So in more
> understandable terms a disc has protruded from its normal position in the
> vertebral column and is putting pressure on the radicular nerve which
> connects with the sciatic nerve.
>
> So basically you've got two problems. Pressure from the protuding disc
> (often referred to as 'ruptured', but that is a little misleading) and
> inflamation of the radicular nerve.
>
> Obviously for inflammation NSAIDS such as ibuprofen can help. Rest helps.
> It is a difficult area to ice, but if you can stand it ice baths help.
>
> For pressure stretching the spinal region can help as well as avoiding
> exercise which compress the spinal column. So squats and OH lifts are out.
> Back raises (back extensions often called 'hyper' extensions) are in. I
> like just hanging from a bar for 2-3 minutes after I squat heavy to
> stretch my spine a bit.
I have to back-track here. Back raises for a limited ROM may be in. They
can also aggravate the injury. So if there is no pain while doing them -
good. If they hurt - nope. >> Stay informed about: siatic nerve |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:24 am
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"Hobbes" <khobman800 DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <khobman800-0203051006410001@localhost>,
> khobman800 DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com (Hobbes) wrote:
>
> > In article <KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, "Chris"
> > <Gotohell DeleteThis @yourliesure.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
for the
> > > siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
> >
> > Most often sciatic pain is a result of radiculopathy. So in more
> > understandable terms a disc has protruded from its normal position in
the
> > vertebral column and is putting pressure on the radicular nerve which
> > connects with the sciatic nerve.
> >
> > So basically you've got two problems. Pressure from the protuding disc
> > (often referred to as 'ruptured', but that is a little misleading) and
> > inflamation of the radicular nerve.
> >
> > Obviously for inflammation NSAIDS such as ibuprofen can help. Rest
helps.
> > It is a difficult area to ice, but if you can stand it ice baths help.
> >
> > For pressure stretching the spinal region can help as well as avoiding
> > exercise which compress the spinal column. So squats and OH lifts are
out.
> > Back raises (back extensions often called 'hyper' extensions) are in. I
> > like just hanging from a bar for 2-3 minutes after I squat heavy to
> > stretch my spine a bit.
>
> I have to back-track here. Back raises for a limited ROM may be in. They
> can also aggravate the injury. So if there is no pain while doing them -
> good. If they hurt - nope.
I have no pain while performing any lifts (ie) squats, sldl, leg curls, leg
press, pulldowns, chins, barbell rows and t-bar rows, these are the
exercises I perform for legs and back. I will try a little more streching
and the hanging upside down. also would there be any back pain associated
with this. I have none.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:58 am
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Hi chris,
I used to have a lot of pain in that area, what i found worked really well
for me was deadlifts, it seems to pull things back into alignment where the
hip flexors which are overly strong and or tight compared to the various
muscles involved in the back/butt area and cause pain from compression with
the joint being imbalanced. It took about 3 sessions working near my max at
the time(275)(3-5 reps) and the whole thing just dissapeared. I hadn't done
deadlifts before that but the motion of working the whole back really
helped.
-Damion
"Chris" <Gotohell RemoveThis @yourliesure.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for
the
> siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>
> Chris
>
> >> Stay informed about: siatic nerve |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:58 am
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In article <QqsVd.19090$534.5493@twister.nyc.rr.com>, "Damion"
<Damionbulk RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi chris,
>
> I used to have a lot of pain in that area, what i found worked really well
> for me was deadlifts, it seems to pull things back into alignment where the
> hip flexors which are overly strong and or tight compared to the various
> muscles involved in the back/butt area and cause pain from compression with
> the joint being imbalanced. It took about 3 sessions working near my max at
> the time(275)(3-5 reps) and the whole thing just dissapeared. I hadn't done
> deadlifts before that but the motion of working the whole back really
> helped.
>
> -Damion
> "Chris" <Gotohell RemoveThis @yourliesure.com> wrote in message
> news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> > Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for
> the
> > siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
Sciatic nerve pain is through the leg and glute. Not in the back. If the
disk is projecting into a nerve then deadlifts are contraindicted. You
have to let the inflammation go down and then start to build slowly.
If the pain is in the back then it isn't the sciatic nerve. >> Stay informed about: siatic nerve |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:17 am
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Hobbes wrote:
> In article <KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, "Chris"
> <Gotohell.RemoveThis@yourliesure.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for the
>>siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>
>
> Most often sciatic pain is a result of radiculopathy. So in more
> understandable terms a disc has protruded from its normal position in the
> vertebral column and is putting pressure on the radicular nerve which
> connects with the sciatic nerve.
>
> So basically you've got two problems. Pressure from the protuding disc
> (often referred to as 'ruptured', but that is a little misleading) and
> inflamation of the radicular nerve.
Ruptured certainly is misleading. I always thought a rupture was when
the nucleus of the disc actually comes out through the outer ring! David
Cohen would probably know the answer.
>
> Obviously for inflammation NSAIDS such as ibuprofen can help. Rest helps.
> It is a difficult area to ice, but if you can stand it ice baths help.
>
> For pressure stretching the spinal region can help as well as avoiding
> exercise which compress the spinal column. So squats and OH lifts are out.
> Back raises (back extensions often called 'hyper' extensions) are in. I
> like just hanging from a bar for 2-3 minutes after I squat heavy to
> stretch my spine a bit.
>
> Okay, this is a little off the beaten path and n=1 and all that, but I did
> a number of treatments for a similiar nerve impingement caused by muscle
> hypertrophy (piriformis syndrome) and acupuncture ended up being the
> answer. I had done physio and massage prior to acupuncture. I dislike
> chiro - I've had it done a few times and never found it to be anything
> other than a temporary relief.
Chiro is for cultists half the time, and the other half the time a
physio would do the same without ordering unnecessary xrays and such.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:17 am
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus RemoveThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote
> Hobbes wrote:
>> "Chris" <Gotohell RemoveThis @yourliesure.com> wrote:
>>>Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for
>>>the
>>>siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>>
>> Most often sciatic pain is a result of radiculopathy. So in more
>> understandable terms a disc has protruded from its normal position in the
>> vertebral column and is putting pressure on the radicular nerve which
>> connects with the sciatic nerve.
>>
>> So basically you've got two problems. Pressure from the protuding disc
>> (often referred to as 'ruptured', but that is a little misleading) and
>> inflamation of the radicular nerve.
>
> Ruptured certainly is misleading. I always thought a rupture was when the
> nucleus of the disc actually comes out through the outer ring! David Cohen
> would probably know the answer.
<pressure, pressure, pressure> Herniated disc? Sounds right, although,
technically, a herniated disc could be ruptured, but not all herniations
are, obviously, ruptured. Non-ruptured herniated disc. Partially herniated
disc. George. Personalizing the problem can make it easier to deal with.
Have you heard about "Frank must die!"?
>
>> Obviously for inflammation NSAIDS such as ibuprofen can help. Rest helps.
>> It is a difficult area to ice, but if you can stand it ice baths help.
>>
>> For pressure stretching the spinal region can help as well as avoiding
>> exercise which compress the spinal column. So squats and OH lifts are
>> out.
>> Back raises (back extensions often called 'hyper' extensions) are in. I
>> like just hanging from a bar for 2-3 minutes after I squat heavy to
>> stretch my spine a bit.
>>
>> Okay, this is a little off the beaten path and n=1 and all that, but I
>> did
>> a number of treatments for a similiar nerve impingement caused by muscle
>> hypertrophy (piriformis syndrome) and acupuncture ended up being the
>> answer. I had done physio and massage prior to acupuncture. I dislike
>> chiro - I've had it done a few times and never found it to be anything
>> other than a temporary relief.
>
> Chiro is for cultists half the time, and the other half the time a physio
> would do the same without ordering unnecessary xrays and such.
I like inversion therapy for various spinal compression problems. The OP
might want to check with a medical professional first.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:43 am
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Yes, i realize this, the overly strong hip or tight hip flexors compared to
the lowerback was so much stronger as to pull the hips out of alignment
enough to place pressure on the nerve and causes pain from the knee to the
hip and some radiating areas. The tightening & strengthening of the back
muscles help to balance the hip flexors(& soas) and takes pressure off the
nerve.
-Damion
"Hobbes" <khobman800.RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <QqsVd.19090$534.5493@twister.nyc.rr.com>, "Damion"
> <Damionbulk.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi chris,
> >
> > I used to have a lot of pain in that area, what i found worked really
well
> > for me was deadlifts, it seems to pull things back into alignment where
the
> > hip flexors which are overly strong and or tight compared to the various
> > muscles involved in the back/butt area and cause pain from compression
with
> > the joint being imbalanced. It took about 3 sessions working near my max
at
> > the time(275)(3-5 reps) and the whole thing just dissapeared. I hadn't
done
> > deadlifts before that but the motion of working the whole back really
> > helped.
> >
> > -Damion
> > "Chris" <Gotohell.RemoveThis@yourliesure.com> wrote in message
> > news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> > > Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
for
> > the
> > > siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>
> Sciatic nerve pain is through the leg and glute. Not in the back. If the
> disk is projecting into a nerve then deadlifts are contraindicted. You
> have to let the inflammation go down and then start to build slowly.
>
> If the pain is in the back then it isn't the sciatic nerve. >> Stay informed about: siatic nerve |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:31 pm
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"Chris" <Gotohell DeleteThis @yourliesure.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator for
the
> siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>
> Chris
Approaching this at a tangent, do you have any cold floors that are causing
you to tense up as you get out of bed in the morning, maybe get some
slippers?
A nice coating of udder mint (ralgex for cows) before bed makes everything
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groovy wrote:
> "Chris" <Gotohell.DeleteThis@yourliesure.com> wrote in message
> news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
>> for the siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>>
>> Chris
>
> Approaching this at a tangent, do you have any cold floors that are
> causing you to tense up as you get out of bed in the morning, maybe
> get some slippers?
>
> A nice coating of udder mint (ralgex for cows) before bed makes
> everything relax and travel back into position.
Seriously?
http://www.fearing.co.uk/product_specials.htm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:24 pm
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"Bully" <neil.simpson.RemoveThis@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> groovy wrote:
> > "Chris" <Gotohell.RemoveThis@yourliesure.com> wrote in message
> > news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> >> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
> >> for the siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > Approaching this at a tangent, do you have any cold floors that are
> > causing you to tense up as you get out of bed in the morning, maybe
> > get some slippers?
> >
> > A nice coating of udder mint (ralgex for cows) before bed makes
> > everything relax and travel back into position.
>
> Seriously?
> http://www.fearing.co.uk/product_specials.htm
>
Honestly. Clears your sinuses too. >> Stay informed about: siatic nerve |
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"Bully" <neil.simpson RemoveThis @virgin.net> wrote in message
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> groovy wrote:
> > "Chris" <Gotohell RemoveThis @yourliesure.com> wrote in message
> > news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> >> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
> >> for the siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > Approaching this at a tangent, do you have any cold floors that are
> > causing you to tense up as you get out of bed in the morning, maybe
> > get some slippers?
> >
> > A nice coating of udder mint (ralgex for cows) before bed makes
> > everything relax and travel back into position.
>
> Seriously?
> http://www.fearing.co.uk/product_specials.htm
Hey Bully I know we've had our differences but are you triing to make me the
smelly guy on mfw, urb.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:18 am
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Chris wrote:
> "Bully" <neil.simpson RemoveThis @virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:38r7b0F5o4vtfU1@individual.net...
>> groovy wrote:
>>> "Chris" <Gotohell RemoveThis @yourliesure.com> wrote in message
>>> news:KblVd.9589$675.916@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Does anybody now of any treatment short of going to the chiroprator
>>>> for the siatic nerve pain? Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Approaching this at a tangent, do you have any cold floors that are
>>> causing you to tense up as you get out of bed in the morning, maybe
>>> get some slippers?
>>>
>>> A nice coating of udder mint (ralgex for cows) before bed makes
>>> everything relax and travel back into position.
>>
>> Seriously?
>> http://www.fearing.co.uk/product_specials.htm
>
> Hey Bully I know we've had our differences but are you triing to make
> me the smelly guy on mfw, urb.
>
> Chris
But this way you would be scented rather than odorous;)!
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