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Proton Soup wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2005 12:12:03 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
> >> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
> >>
> >> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
on.
> >> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
> >chipboard?
> >> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
what
> >> wood to buy to build the boxes.
> >
> >The same way I built a squat box:
> >
> >Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
> >cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
(mine
> >is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
corner
> >braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
paint
> >the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>
> Or steal a milk crate.

The plastic ones don't hold up well. I'll take wood any day.
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Lee Michaels wrote:
> "elzinator" wrote

> > Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10"
tall),
> > cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
(mine
> > is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
corner
> > braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
paint
> > the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
> >
>
> Although that may be good advice for a box to sit on, I wouldn't
advise
> anybody tomake a box like that to put weights on. Either use big
> dimensional lumber (2 X 10's or 2 X 12's) or use some plywood with
internal
> bracings of two by stock.

Dude, I DID use 2x stock! Whatta ya think, I'm stoopid?

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On 9 Feb 2005 12:12:03 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>>
>> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell on.
>> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
>chipboard?
>> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes - what
>> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>
>The same way I built a squat box:
>
>Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
>cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be (mine
>is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using corner
>braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either paint
>the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.

Or steal a milk crate.

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In article <1107977665.184177.303720 RemoveThis @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
q_q_anonymous RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>
> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell on.
> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with chipboard?
> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes - what
> wood to buy to build the boxes.

I do the real easy thing. I buy 2x4 studs. I cut them into 15" length (6
per stud). I do a stack by alternating the studs till I get my desired
height. Then I place 4 of them across the top with even spacing.
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"elzinator" wrote
>
> q_q_anonymous RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>>
>> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell on.
>> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
> chipboard?
>> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes - what
>> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>
> The same way I built a squat box:
>
> Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
> cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be (mine
> is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using corner
> braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either paint
> the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>

Although that may be good advice for a box to sit on, I wouldn't advise
anybody tomake a box like that to put weights on. Either use big
dimensional lumber (2 X 10's or 2 X 12's) or use some plywood with internal
bracings of two by stock.

If you put weights onto a box, it has to be strong enough to deal with a
dropped lift for safety purposes. Make up your box out of plywood. (Do NOT
use MDF!!) I would recommend at least three quarter inch thick. The
dimensions would be what would fit you.

Be sure to leave some room for the bar to travel back and forth. So make the
box a minimum of four inches longer than what is required to set the weigh
on it. That way you won't be distracted trying to put the weight down on
something too narrow.

When you get the sides and tops of the boxes cut out, then cut some two by
stock. I would use at least two by fours. place this under the top of the
box. Nail or screw together. Use construction adhesive as well. The cheapie
stuff in the caulking tube is much stronger than many comventional adhesives
and cheaper as well.

When this is done, you need to do the same with the inside walls of the
sides of the box. The frame you construct here will actually support the
weights. Besure to leave space for the other internal support peices. The
top of the internal side peices should fit under the top support peices.

Two sides peices will have support peices that will go to the edge. The
other two sides will have support peices that will be further back to
accomadate the corner stock. And make sure that the corner of your plywood
lines up to make the corners as strong as possible.

It really isn't that difficult. Just figure out the size box that you want.
Cut the plywood to that size. And reinforce the inside with two by stock.
That way if you drop a weight, nobody gets hurt. Use lots of threaded nails
or screws. And construction adhesive. The plywood provide some structural
strength but is used primarily for bracing.

Also put some kind of stop on the front and back edge of the top of the
boxes. This will keep the weights from rolling off.

I built a bunch of dumbell floor stands from 2 X 12's in various heights.
They were held together with lag bolts. They were very handy. I installed
large metal handles on the side of them. That way I could just reach down,
grab the handles and carry them to where I wanted. Very quick to set up and
put away.

Lee Michaels.
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"elzinator" calmly ranted
>
> Lee Michaels wrote:
>> "elzinator" wrote
>
>> > Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10"
> tall),
>> > cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
> (mine
>> > is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
> corner
>> > braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
> paint
>> > the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>> >
>>
>> Although that may be good advice for a box to sit on, I wouldn't
> advise
>> anybody to make a box like that to put weights on. Either use big
>> dimensional lumber (2 X 10's or 2 X 12's) or use some plywood with
> internal
>> bracings of two by stock.
>
> Dude, I DID use 2x stock! Whatta ya think, I'm stoopid?
>
>

Easy there Elzi!

I should point out two things.

First, even if you used two by stock, you did NOT mention that in your post.
Thereby giving the impression that a big, bad weight box could be made from
sissy materials.

The second thing I should point out is that you have a reputation of being a
sissy, girly girl here. And I wanted to express the instuctions in a way
that a manly man could properly interpert them.

<silly grin>

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On 9 Feb 2005 13:01:44 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Proton Soup wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2005 12:12:03 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> >> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>> >> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>> >>
>> >> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
>on.
>> >> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
>> >chipboard?
>> >> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
>what
>> >> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>> >
>> >The same way I built a squat box:
>> >
>> >Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
>> >cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
>(mine
>> >is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
>corner
>> >braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
>paint
>> >the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>>
>> Or steal a milk crate.
>
>The plastic ones don't hold up well. I'll take wood any day.

If you're thinking about those dinky little storage boxes you buy at
the dollar store that look like milk crates, then I'd agree. But
years ago, when I worked in the grocery store, we had these really
thick ones that looked like they were probably molded out of recycled
plastic. There were also some metal ones made out of welded wire, but
I honestly think the heavy plastic ones were better.

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:06:58 -0600, Proton Soup wrote:
>On 9 Feb 2005 13:01:44 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Proton Soup wrote:
>>> On 9 Feb 2005 12:12:03 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>> >> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>>> >> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>>> >>
>>> >> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
>>on.
>>> >> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
>>> >chipboard?
>>> >> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
>>what
>>> >> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>>> >
>>> >The same way I built a squat box:
>>> >
>>> >Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
>>> >cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
>>(mine
>>> >is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
>>corner
>>> >braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
>>paint
>>> >the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>>>
>>> Or steal a milk crate.
>>
>>The plastic ones don't hold up well. I'll take wood any day.
>
>If you're thinking about those dinky little storage boxes you buy at
>the dollar store that look like milk crates, then I'd agree. But
>years ago, when I worked in the grocery store, we had these really
>thick ones that looked like they were probably molded out of recycled
>plastic. There were also some metal ones made out of welded wire, but
>I honestly think the heavy plastic ones were better.

Dood, you're dating yourself....

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<q_q_anonymous RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>
> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell on.
> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with chipboard?
> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes - what
> wood to buy to build the boxes.

Trust only steel...
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:40:04 -0600, elzinator
<callofthewest DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:06:58 -0600, Proton Soup wrote:
>>On 9 Feb 2005 13:01:44 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Proton Soup wrote:
>>>> On 9 Feb 2005 12:12:03 -0800, "elzinator" <elzinator DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>>> >> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>>>> >> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
>>>on.
>>>> >> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
>>>> >chipboard?
>>>> >> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
>>>what
>>>> >> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>>>> >
>>>> >The same way I built a squat box:
>>>> >
>>>> >Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
>>>> >cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
>>>(mine
>>>> >is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
>>>corner
>>>> >braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
>>>paint
>>>> >the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Or steal a milk crate.
>>>
>>>The plastic ones don't hold up well. I'll take wood any day.
>>
>>If you're thinking about those dinky little storage boxes you buy at
>>the dollar store that look like milk crates, then I'd agree. But
>>years ago, when I worked in the grocery store, we had these really
>>thick ones that looked like they were probably molded out of recycled
>>plastic. There were also some metal ones made out of welded wire, but
>>I honestly think the heavy plastic ones were better.
>
>Dood, you're dating yourself....

Ja, twas nearly two decades ago...

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"Proton Soup" <proton RemoveThis @soup.org> wrote
> elzinator <callofthewest RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>>Proton Soup wrote:
>>> "elzinator" <elzinator RemoveThis @hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>Proton Soup wrote:
>>>>> "elzinator" <elzinator RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> >> I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
>>>>> >> http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
>>>>on.
>>>>> >> The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
>>>>> >chipboard?
>>>>> >> I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
>>>>what
>>>>> >> wood to buy to build the boxes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >The same way I built a squat box:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Buy lumber with the height of the box you want (my box is 10" tall),
>>>>> >cut it, or have it cut, to the dimensions you want the box to be
>>>>(mine
>>>>> >is 12"x12"x10" high). Screw the ends together and I advise using
>>>>corner
>>>>> >braces on the insides for stability and strength. You can either
>>>>paint
>>>>> >the top as is, glue a mat, or do whatever. Very simple and cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or steal a milk crate.
>>>>
>>>>The plastic ones don't hold up well. I'll take wood any day.
>>>
>>>If you're thinking about those dinky little storage boxes you buy at
>>>the dollar store that look like milk crates, then I'd agree. But
>>>years ago, when I worked in the grocery store, we had these really
>>>thick ones that looked like they were probably molded out of recycled
>>>plastic. There were also some metal ones made out of welded wire, but
>>>I honestly think the heavy plastic ones were better.
>>
>>Dood, you're dating yourself....
>
> Ja, twas nearly two decades ago...

Ask any old rockclimbers from the 60's and 70's about those indestructible
milk crates. We "borrowed" them in large numbers and lived out of them from
our cars. Still have a bunch of them. Them and the cockroaches would survive
a nuclear war.

David
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Hobbes wrote:
> In article <1107977665.184177.303720 RemoveThis @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> q_q_anonymous RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > I want to do the barbell floor press keith mentioned 6 months ago
> > http://www.weightliftingdiscussion.com/floorbarbellpress.html
> >
> > Like that picture, except I want to use boxes to rest the barbell
on.
> > The prob is, where would I get boxes? Do I build them with
chipboard?
> > I have no idea where to get crates. Or if building the boxes -
what
> > wood to buy to build the boxes.
>
> I do the real easy thing. I buy 2x4 studs. I cut them into 15" length
(6
> per stud). I do a stack by alternating the studs till I get my
desired
> height. Then I place 4 of them across the top with even spacing.

I just called my local huge DIY store(homebase). I thought I was lucky
to get an american answering, but he didn't know what a stud was, he
said they didn't have any more, then I asked him the price, and he hung
up.

I'm gonna have to buy it without saying 2x4 or stud.
So, i'm looking planks of wood 1.5"(deep) x 3.5"(width) x 8ft (length)
and i'll cut each into 6 15" planks. I get that.
But, what type of wood should I (/should I not) ask for? and what to
hold them together(any particular glue or type of fastener)?

I am thinking of doing this raised off the floor, so that my elbows can
go below my body (barbell down to chest) so I can get a fuller
movement. To do this, I am also considering using a bad quality bench
I already have minus rubbish barbell retainers(using the stacks to rest
the barbell on) to give the benefit of allowing me to lower the elbows,
and the benefit of the incline BP. Would it get way too expensive or
unsuitable raising the stack high? (i'll put little wooden feet on
them of course - to stop them tipping)

thanks
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thanks the info. The only term my DIY store knows is wood. When you
say 'two by stock' do you mean a plank 2" deep, about 4" wide, and
their length would be almost the width of the box - to go from one side
of the box to the other.

What type of wood for the 'two by stock'?

If i screw lumber wood together would I need no 'internal bracing'?
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