best place to add deadlifts to this routine?

The classic dead lift uses the squat muscles to a greater degree but
the stiff legged deadlift is closer to a true pulling movement using
the spinal erectors.
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sid bonfire wrote:
> The classic dead lift uses the squat muscles to a greater degree but
> the stiff legged deadlift is closer to a true pulling movement using
> the spinal erectors.

I figured since I go pretty heavy on the weights when squatting that
the stiff legged deadlift makes more sense than the classic deadlift.
Is that correct? Or maybe I should just do both the classic squat and
teh classic deadlift?
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"sid bonfire" <hrdix.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> schreef:

> Squats
> Bench
> Dips
> Overhead Press
> (your push muscles)
> Deadlift
> Chins
> Curls
> Neck Raise
> (your pull muscles)

The muscles used in a deadlift, for instance, the quads/glutes/lower back,
are those "pulling muscles"?

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Pete
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"sid bonfire" <hrdix.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> schreef:

> The classic dead lift uses the squat muscles to a greater degree but
> the stiff legged deadlift is closer to a true pulling movement using
> the spinal erectors.

Which would mean that the antagonist of the spinal erectors, the abdominals,
are pushing muscles?

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"Pete" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "sid bonfire" <hrdix RemoveThis @hotmail.com> schreef:
>
>> The classic dead lift uses the squat muscles to a greater degree but
>> the stiff legged deadlift is closer to a true pulling movement using
>> the spinal erectors.
>
> Which would mean that the antagonist of the spinal erectors, the
> abdominals, are pushing muscles?
>

pushing muscles?
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"Ranieri" <nah> schreef:

>> Which would mean that the antagonist of the spinal erectors, the
>> abdominals, are pushing muscles?

> pushing muscles?

Hehehe... yeah, you know... as opposed to "pulling" muscles.
Deltoids and pecs push, lats pull etc...

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Pete
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TheGist wrote:

> I want to add straight leg deadlifts to this whole body workout:

> squats

Here or maybe later.

> benchpress
> weighted dips
> weighted chins

Add a bent over type row in here. Try to keep the pushing and pulling
work reasonably balanced.

> overhead press
> standing alternating bicep curls
> lying neck raise

> I figure get all the big muscle groups worked early and either do them
> first or after squats. Or maybe even wait until after benchpress and
> give my lower body a little break. Any advice?
> Thanks!!
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Jeff Finlayson wrote:
> TheGist wrote:
>
>> I want to add straight leg deadlifts to this whole body workout:
>
>> squats
>
> Here or maybe later.
>
>> benchpress
>> weighted dips
>> weighted chins
>
> Add a bent over type row in here. Try to keep the pushing and pulling
> work reasonably balanced.

Upper body push and pull work that is.

>> overhead press
>> standing alternating bicep curls
>> lying neck raise
>
>> I figure get all the big muscle groups worked early and either do them
>> first or after squats. Or maybe even wait until after benchpress and
>> give my lower body a little break. Any advice?
>> Thanks!!
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"TheGist" <nowhere.TakeThisOut@nospam.nospam> schreef:

>> The classic dead lift uses the squat muscles to a greater degree but
>> the stiff legged deadlift is closer to a true pulling movement using
>> the spinal erectors.

> I figured since I go pretty heavy on the weights when squatting that
> the stiff legged deadlift makes more sense than the classic deadlift.
> Is that correct?

Yes.
The mechanics of the two exercises are, in some ways, similair.
It doesnt make any sense to perform deadlifts for the quads/glutes/hams.
Like you said yourself, you allready squat heavy.

If anyone comes in between and tells you what wonderfull effects the
deadlift has on the upper body, let me say this;

Rows. Pulldowns. Shrugs. Wrist curls.

> Or maybe I should just do both the classic squat and teh classic deadlift?

Depends.
I DID do deadlifts in the past, to help me bring out the spinal erectors and
traps.
I didnt use that much weight, but it worked. However... when you allready
squat, it makes a lot more sense to do the SL dead. The pull seems to come
more from the hams, which makes this exersice a nice add-on to squats WRT
lower bodt development.

Again, if you squat, and also do SL deads AND rows, there is NO point
whatsover, to do regular deads.

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sid bonfire wrote:
> Squats
> Bench
> Dips
> Overhead Press
> (your push muscles)
> Deadlift
> Chins
> Curls
> Neck Raise
> (your pull muscles)
> Rotate sequence,starting with push one workout and pull on another.


I worked the modified routine for the first time this afternoon. Kickass!
Thanks for your advice.
m.f.w is still plenty good despite the best work of 1 unemployed pervert.
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Good work Gist. You are on the right track. Stay on it and work towards
getting stronger.And remember,fresh fruits and vegetables and some lean
meat and positve thoughts.
Sid Bonfire,the burning fire on the mountain.
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:04:49 -0400, TheGist <fake.DeleteThis@notreal.info> wrote:

>m.f.w is still plenty good despite the best work of 1 unemployed pervert.

But I am looking for a job.

TheGist
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