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(Msg. 61) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:16 pm
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In article <1175353187.587590.155070.DeleteThis@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
needanufriendnow.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 31, 8:41 am, willbr....DeleteThis@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> > In article <1175294003.547793.287....DeleteThis@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > > i
> > > don't have that kind of money.
> >
> > Yet yu had enough to inject drugs you knew nothing about? Funny how that
> > works eh?
>
> yes, i made a mistake. an expensive mistake.
>
> > Not 100% true. There can be shrinkage. In rare cases, it can go away
> > totally, if it's early and involves only fatty tissue. You have little to
> > lose by trying it.
> >
> > > in any event, he refused to
> > > prescribe them.
> >
> > Then find a doc who will or buy them off the 'net. There are only about a
> > zillion overseas places that sell them. Christ, you are helpless.
> >
> i'm very depressed.
A lot of people are.
> you don't have to insult me.
Then stop acting so helpless.
>
> i didn't buy my stuff on the internet. customs is checking more and
> more overseas packages these days and i don't want to get arrested.
You wont get arrested as they are not steroids. 99% of it gets through.
> last thing i need is prison time.
No one has ever gone to prison for a 3 month supply of the meds we are
talking about. Do you know anything about anything?
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(Msg. 62) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:12 am
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> You are testosterone deficient, my dear friend. You took the stuff for nine
> months, and you claimed you used up to 500mg/week. Besides having gyno, your
> testicles are shut down completely.
>
> You didnt knew that?
i did not realize that. i thought it was just depression why things
were not working down there.
> But test, at this moment, is not an option for you.
sometimes i just want to feel better and inject the test, but i have
so far resisted the temptation.
You should use a fairly
> strong androgen that doesnt aromatize, together with some Pregnyl and
> Proviron. (or a more "typical" aromatze inhibitor...)
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:27 am
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In article <1175389411.266502.283140.TakeThisOut@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
needanufriendnow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > No one has ever gone to prison for a 3 month supply of the meds we are
> > talking about. Do you know anything about anything?
>
> is it possible for me to send you an email privately?
Sure, but I probably wont respond.
>
> i feel like a wreck here,
Then you have lived a charmed life as it's not that bad. BTW, go to the
mens health section of the meso forums:
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/
Ask questions there.
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:31 pm
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<needanufriendnow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:
>> I think they are psychologically addictive in such a way, that you can
>> actually train better/harder/more, and get more results. Then you stop,
>> and
>> lose most of it, if not all.
>> Which can be prevented.
> how can i deal with the depression here?
You are testosterone deficient, my dear friend. You took the stuff for nine
months, and you claimed you used up to 500mg/week. Besides having gyno, your
testicles are shut down completely.
You didnt knew that?
But test, at this moment, is not an option for you. You should use a fairly
strong androgen that doesnt aromatize, together with some Pregnyl and
Proviron. (or a more "typical" aromatze inhibitor...)
> i can see a shrink but that won't be until next week at the earliest?
The shrink cannot make the gyno dissapear or kickstart the test production.
If you really want to see a shrink, go ahead. I will give you in writing
that you go home with a script for SSRIs.Thats SOP these days.
> its like i dont even want to get out of bed in the morning and i am
> just preoccupied with my chest.
Which is why you need surgery.
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:17 pm
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(Msg. 66) Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:19 pm
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<needanufriendnow.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
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>> Gyno surgery is NOT considered to be cosmetic surgery. You have a growth
>> that they have to remove to make sure that it is not cancerous. You need
>> to
>> find a different MD who knows how to present it to the insurance. I had
>> mine
>> cut out twice and both times were covered by insurance.
>>
> so far i have had no luck with finding a surgeon.
Luck is a poor way to find a surgeon.
> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
Oh, wouldn't THEY be fun at a party! Maybe they could do some knitting and
exchange recipes while you're there.
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:32 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> schreef:
>> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
> Oh, wouldn't THEY be fun at a party! Maybe they could do some knitting and
> exchange recipes while you're there.
Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:53 pm
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On Apr 10, 4:18 am, "Pete" <phouts....DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> schreef:
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> >> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
>
> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>
> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
the time.
>
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:17 pm
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<needanufriendnow RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
> "Pete" <phouts... RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>> "David Cohen" <sammies... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> schreef:
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>> >> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
>>
>> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
>
> that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>
>> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
>
> what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
> the time.
On behalf of everyone who has participated in this thread, let me say, "Oh,
isn't THAT a surprise!"
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(Msg. 70) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:16 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> <needanufriendnow.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> "Pete" <phouts....RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>> "David Cohen" <sammies....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> schreef:
>>>
>>> >> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
>>>
>>> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
>>
>> that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>>
>>> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
>>
>> what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
>> the time.
>
> On behalf of everyone who has participated in this thread, let me say, "Oh, isn't THAT a
> surprise!"
>
> David
>
You can say it on behalf of those of us who haven't participated in the thread
as well.
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(Msg. 71) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:44 am
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On Apr 11, 1:02 am, "Pete" <phouts....TakeThisOut@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> >> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
> > that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
> >> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
> > what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
> > the time.
>
> "As for the estrogenic compounds found in soy, that's a bit more
> complicated. For years, soy protein has been found to reduce cholesterol in
> a wide range of animalsspecies and man. One recent study found that when
> they separated the estrogenic compounds from soy, it failed to have the
> usual cholesterol lowering effects. This does not come as a big surprise as
> the cholesterol lowering protective effects of estrogen are well known."
>
> --
> Pete
thanks for the information Pete.
i thought that when i stopped juicing things would at least stay
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(Msg. 72) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:14 am
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"Art S" <thedabbler02.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote
>> <needanufriendnow.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> "Pete" <phouts....RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>>> "David Cohen" <sammies....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> schreef:
>>>>
>>>> >> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
>>>>
>>>> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
>>>
>>> that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>>>
>>>> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
>>>
>>> what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
>>> the time.
>>
>> On behalf of everyone who has participated in this thread, let me say,
>> "Oh, isn't THAT a surprise!"
>
> You can say it on behalf of those of us who haven't participated in the
> thread
> as well.
I could even say it on behalf of people who hardly ever show up anymore!
<Jewish mother>It's OK, don't write, my heart can break more.</Jewish
mother>
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(Msg. 73) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:14 am
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<needanufriendnow RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef:
>> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
> that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
> what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
> the time.
"As for the estrogenic compounds found in soy, that's a bit more
complicated. For years, soy protein has been found to reduce cholesterol in
a wide range of animalsspecies and man. One recent study found that when
they separated the estrogenic compounds from soy, it failed to have the
usual cholesterol lowering effects. This does not come as a big surprise as
the cholesterol lowering protective effects of estrogen are well known."
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(Msg. 74) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:23 pm
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> <needanufriendnow.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> "Pete" <phouts....DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>> "David Cohen" <sammies....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> schreef:
>>>
>>> >> had more luck finding a support group for men with gyno.
>>>
>>> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
>>
>> that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>>
>>> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
>>
>> what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
>> the time.
>
> On behalf of everyone who has participated in this thread, let me say,
> "Oh, isn't THAT a surprise!"
>
> David
>
LOL! Now why did it not surprise me that this moron drink soy milk?
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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
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(Msg. 75) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:24 pm
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needanufriendnow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 11, 1:02 am, "Pete" <phouts....TakeThisOut@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>> <needanufriend....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:
>>
>> >> Is that for men with gyno after AS use or without?
>> > that is my reason for gyno, I can't vouch for them all.
>> >> Ehhh... a nice soya dish perhaps? Its nice.
>> > what is the soya reference? i'm lactose intolerant and drink soy all
>> > the time.
>>
>> "As for the estrogenic compounds found in soy, that's a bit more
>> complicated. For years, soy protein has been found to reduce cholesterol
>> in
>> a wide range of animalsspecies and man. One recent study found that when
>> they separated the estrogenic compounds from soy, it failed to have the
>> usual cholesterol lowering effects. This does not come as a big surprise
>> as
>> the cholesterol lowering protective effects of estrogen are well known."
>>
>> --
>> Pete
>
> thanks for the information Pete.
>
> i thought that when i stopped juicing things would at least stay
> status quo. i now know why they did not.
>
Do you know how to capitalize?
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"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
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