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Pete wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>> and what was the concentration? how many mg of test per ml?
>
>>> 100 mg/ml
>
>> So you were using about 500mg/week, yes? That's a moderate dose and can
>> cause the issues you've experienced in some people.
>
> In 2002 i tried 1500mg straight. No side effects. The reason i stopped after
> 4 weeks is because the rate of growth was a bit dissapointing, IOW, a gram
> more or less did the same.
>
>> I haven't had those issues and I haven't been on anti-estrogens or
>> aromatase inhibitors (and your experience has given me cause to talk with
>> my doctor further because if I get other side effects stopping the
>> anabolics is not an option: my marrow shuts down again in under 2 weeks).
>
> I think there are still many AS left that dont aromatize. And nandrolone is
> not as bad as test.
>
> I think with the right selection, you will never have to use an anti-est or
> an aromataze inhibitor.
>
> --
> Pete
>
>

The less I'm on the better, as it appears this is a 'for life' thing for
me (at least until we make some big strides in transplant technology, or
it no longer works). Right now I'm using 400mg nandrolone and 250mg
testosterone per week. We tried lowering the nandrolone before but I had
to have another blood transfusion. 1500mg seems like quite a big dose to
me (I had to use 500mg/week recently when there was a hiccup in my
supply of high concentration nandrolone and my blood counts went down,
but luckily it was enough to avoid another transfusion). How was your
blood pressure? Did you notice an increase in risk taking behaviours or
spending?

Cheers,

Ari

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On Mar 29, 4:31 am, "Pete" <phouts....RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> >> Ever had your prostate checked?
> > no.
> > is that something i should be concerned with too?
>
> Well, you took 500 test for 9 months...
>
> > my doctor did not mention prostate.
>
> Just dont get upset when you get a large, lubed middle finger i your ass.

don't they have blood tests for this?

>
> Your writing indicates you are even more depressed than i am. Thats bad.

i'm too self conscious now that i dont even go to the gym.
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus RemoveThis @_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:

> How was your blood pressure?

Increased a bit. Normal for me is 120/70 (115/65 upon awakening) and it
increased to 140/80.

> Did you notice an increase in risk taking behaviours or spending?

Not at all.

AS never had a profound effect on my CNS. I feel a little more extrovert and
energetic, but thats it.

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<needanufriendnow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> Dude, see a psychiatrist. You have some serious problems.

> you were not there in the room. he said he was just checking to make
> sure whether it was just fat deposits. when i told him that there was
> pain he said that it was not fat but breast tissue.

> he then squeezed around the area and asked how i did not notice that
> it was not firm muscle when i was working out every day.

> it was completely humiliating.

Ever had your prostate checked?

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<needanufriendnow RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef:

>> Ever had your prostate checked?

> no.

> is that something i should be concerned with too?

Well, you took 500 test for 9 months...

> my doctor did not mention prostate.

Just dont get upset when you get a large, lubed middle finger i your ass.

> my health insurance is not going to cover the consultation with the
> surgeon.

> now i can't even get a good night's sleep since i'm so worried about
> this.

Your writing indicates you are even more depressed than i am. Thats bad.

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"Pete" <phoutstra.DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> schreef:

> "Does this feel uncombertable?" she sked after inserting my finger.

Yeah right. Good one Petey.

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Dnia 2007-03-29 Pete napisa³(a):
> "Pete" <phoutstra.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> schreef:
>
>> "Does this feel uncombertable?" she sked after inserting my finger.
>
> Yeah right. Good one Petey.

"Yeah, thats uncomfartable" was even better. I thereby nominate it for
the Typo of the Month. At least!

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"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef:

>>> "Does this feel uncombertable?" she sked after inserting my finger.

>> Yeah right. Good one Petey.

> "Yeah, thats uncomfartable" was even better. I thereby nominate it for
> the Typo of the Month. At least!

Yeah, but its a narcoleptic typo, so it doesnt really count.

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> I still like my website idea for him. It'll either pay for the surgery
> or pay for more AS if he chooses to forego the surgery. Add some chicks
> with dicks into the mix and you have a killer .com idea.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ari
>
> PS- if you use that/MY idea, I get 10% of the take as copyright
> royalties for my intellectual property.
>

i don't know what website idea you are referring to but i'm sure it is
not a constructive suggestion.
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Pete wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:
>
>> How was your blood pressure?
>
> Increased a bit. Normal for me is 120/70 (115/65 upon awakening) and it
> increased to 140/80.

Mine gets up to that now. When we added enough testosterone to kick
start my marrow it went a lot higher. After my last transfusion (the
time we tried to reduce the nandrolone, and then brought the levels back
up) my blood pressure stayed down and I was able to stop the blood
pressure pills.

>
>> Did you notice an increase in risk taking behaviours or spending?
>
> Not at all.
>
> AS never had a profound effect on my CNS. I feel a little more extrovert and
> energetic, but thats it.

Which is typical of AS, which is what the studies claiming to have found
'roid rage' have really found: elevations on a euphoria scale and extra
enthusiastic gesticulations. However, increases on this scale can also
be associated with increased risk taking behaviour, which is why I was
asking. Risk taking behaviour being similar to that seen in teenagers
(driving too fast, drinking too much, experimenting in a wide /variety/
of 'oh my god I can't believe we just did that without one of those'
behaviours).

Ari


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needanufriendnow RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 29, 4:31 am, "Pete" <phouts... RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>> <needanufriend... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef:
>>
>>>> Ever had your prostate checked?
>>> no.
>>> is that something i should be concerned with too?
>> Well, you took 500 test for 9 months...
>>
>>> my doctor did not mention prostate.
>> Just dont get upset when you get a large, lubed middle finger i your ass.
>
> don't they have blood tests for this?

Prostate specific antibody (PSA) screen. Yes. But it won't show prostate
enlargement in response to AS use. Make sure the doctor buys you dinner
first

>
>> Your writing indicates you are even more depressed than i am. Thats bad.
>
> i'm too self conscious now that i dont even go to the gym.

That's just silly. You need routine and exercise to help get you through
this period where your hormone levels are fluctuating.

Ari



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>
> I think straight estrogen is a lot cheaper and more effective. With some
> progesterone and prolactine.
>
> > Add some chicks with dicks into the mix and you have a killer .com idea.
>
> If we add cyproterone to the mix than we dont need the dickchicks. We
> allready have one.
>

i think i am done with hormones for the time being.
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus RemoveThis @_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:

>> Increased a bit. Normal for me is 120/70 (115/65 upon awakening) and it
>> increased to 140/80.

> Mine gets up to that now. When we added enough testosterone to kick start
> my marrow it went a lot higher. After my last transfusion (the time we
> tried to reduce the nandrolone, and then brought the levels back up) my
> blood pressure stayed down and I was able to stop the blood pressure
> pills.

If you only use it to kickstart the marrow, why not use nandrolone by itself
instead of test?

Perhaps with some Proviron to go with it. The Proviron might not do nowhere
near as much as test, but have you ever tried 600mg nandrolone together with
75mg Proviron? Side effects are probably less, and what i find so nice about
the Primo/Proviron, Or Deca/Propviron combo, is that you can actually fine
tune stimulation of the CNS. By reducing the Proviron to 50, or increasing
it to 100mg.

Perhaps Halotestin if Proviron is too "mild."

If you can handle 100mg oxymeth than you can certainly handle 15-20mg Halo.

>> AS never had a profound effect on my CNS. I feel a little more extrovert
>> and energetic, but thats it.

> Which is typical of AS, which is what the studies claiming to have found
> 'roid rage' have really found: elevations on a euphoria scale and extra
> enthusiastic gesticulations.

Best mood i ever was in was on Deca/Dianabol/Proviron. I dont have much
experience with the orals, but DAMN that felt good!

> However, increases on this scale can also be associated with increased
> risk taking behaviour, which is why I was asking. Risk taking behaviour
> being similar to that seen in teenagers (driving too fast, drinking too
> much, experimenting in a wide /variety/ of 'oh my god I can't believe we
> just did that without one of those' behaviours).

When i take high doses af AS, i avoid alcohol and other drugs at all times.
Which are used sporadically to begin with. Besides, when i gain muscle fast,
i get in a good mood, and i actually calm down a bit. So i dont need
anything to enhance my mood.

I also stay away from partials, negatives and forced reps during my
workouts.

A lot of guys think that when they start a cycle, they have to groan and
yell at the end of a set, and use weights that almost cripple them. And make
funny faces. I never get that. I suspect some people act a little agressive
because they read somewhere that AS makes you aggressive. And so they act
like they do, otherwise they dont work.

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