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On Mar 25, 12:58 pm, "Curt" <curtja... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Shute wrote:
> > spodosaurus wrote:
> > >Will Brink wrote:
> > >> needanufriend...@yahoo wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > >>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> > >>> but I don't know what you mean.
>
> > >> Then stop using drugs and do some
> > >> research. Ignornace kills.
>
> > > Especially if you are smothered by your
> > > own giant man titties.
>
> > The politically correct term is bitch tits.
>
> Man boobs.
>
> HEY, BRINK! WHICH TERM DO YOU PREFER??!!!
>
> To the OP aka needanufriend, don't sweat it. Go see your doctor, it
> might be wise to NOT talk to any law enforcement representative about
> anything incriminating, and - I'm guessing - you'll be fine. Best of
> luck.
>
> And, hey, read and digest the info found by following the links you've
> been offered. Uh, for entertainment purposes only, of course.
>
> Please post a follow-up.
>
> --
> Curt

I'm sure some of you are enjoying this. I made a big mistake.

looking at some of the other discussions, one guy had a problem
getting those prescriptions even though his own doctor gave him the
testosterone.

will those female prescriptions take care of it without surgery? or is
that something the doctor will have to decide?

thanks for your help.
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On Mar 25, 5:48 pm, Shute <S... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> People complain in newsgroups all the time. No need to apologize for
> it. Hopefully now you know steroids are not the same as just taking
> an over the counter supplement.

I learned a very important lesson here.

I liked the way I looked and felt while using them. now reading up, I
hope that the bitch tits are the least of my problems.

thanks again
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needanufriendnow.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The politically correct term is bitch tits.- Hide quoted text -
>>
> okay already so i got bitch tits. i did not mean to complain about
> you guys. thanks for the help.
>
> will call the doctor tomorrow.
>
>

Don't feel too bad, some guys get these 'just because'. The treatment is
the same.

Ari

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"Will Brink" <willbrink RemoveThis @comcast.net> schreef:

>> When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
>> uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."

> The really annoying part is he will go onto blame the steroids for his
> problems vs blaming his ignorance of the drugs he took.

Whats even more annoying is that "doctors" will look at cases such as these,
and in their never ending quest to proof that anabolic steroids are
"baaaaaad" will actually think that they are right.

Some doctors like to demonize them, but the majority is just plain stupid,
and dont know any better.

15 years ago i visited an endrocrinologist who told me that taking HCG while
taking AS doesnt work. They work against each other. HCG stimulate the
testes, steroids supress them.

Makes sense, right?

I tried to explain to him that HCG more or less circemvent the whole HPTA,
and that stimulation of the testes is direct, even if you take a 1000,000
milligrams of test.

He was puzzled. Moron...

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<needanufriendnow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> People complain in newsgroups all the time. No need to apologize for
>> it. Hopefully now you know steroids are not the same as just taking
>> an over the counter supplement.

> I learned a very important lesson here.

No you didnt.

You should have learned about anti-estrogens beforte you took a steroid that
could aromatize.

Now you think that ALL steroids are bad, and that side effects like this
happen ALWAYS.

I hate to say it, but you didnt learn anything. Sorry man.

> I liked the way I looked and felt while using them. now reading up, I
> hope that the bitch tits are the least of my problems.

I think they are.

You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.

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needanufriendnow RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 25, 12:58 pm, "Curt" <curtja... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> Shute wrote:
>>> spodosaurus wrote:
>>>> Will Brink wrote:
>>>>> needanufriend...@yahoo wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
>>>>>> but I don't know what you mean.
>>>>> Then stop using drugs and do some
>>>>> research. Ignornace kills.
>>>> Especially if you are smothered by your
>>>> own giant man titties.
>>> The politically correct term is bitch tits.
>> Man boobs.
>>
>> HEY, BRINK! WHICH TERM DO YOU PREFER??!!!
>>
>> To the OP aka needanufriend, don't sweat it. Go see your doctor, it
>> might be wise to NOT talk to any law enforcement representative about
>> anything incriminating, and - I'm guessing - you'll be fine. Best of
>> luck.
>>
>> And, hey, read and digest the info found by following the links you've
>> been offered. Uh, for entertainment purposes only, of course.
>>
>> Please post a follow-up.
>>
>> --
>> Curt
>
> I'm sure some of you are enjoying this. I made a big mistake.
>
> looking at some of the other discussions, one guy had a problem
> getting those prescriptions even though his own doctor gave him the
> testosterone.
>
> will those female prescriptions take care of it without surgery?

No

or is
> that something the doctor will have to decide?
>
> thanks for your help.
>


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>
> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
>
> --
> Pete

I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.

also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
food stores.

called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.

needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
soreness.
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<needanufriendnow DeleteThis @yahoo.com> schreef:

>> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.

> I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.

How much is that in milligrams?

> also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
> food stores.

That doesnt matter.

> called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
> the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
> agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.

I hope they fix it soon.

> needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
> attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
> soreness.

I would react the same way, i guess.

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needanufriendnow.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
>>
>> --
>> Pete
>
> I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.
>
> also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
> food stores.
>
> called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
> the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
> agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.
>
> needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
> attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
> soreness.
>
>

1. Stop worrying the area
2. Stop worrying about it. It's done, you know what the cause was, and
you've been given pointers on how to prevent it happeneing again in the
future.
3. Unless you're a C-cup already, then stop worrying about it. It's not
making things any better and it won't accomplish anything, except
potentially making the potential (everyone can skip the posts about me
using potential twice) of a post-steroid period of depression worse.

I have to wonder about those pro-hormones (if that's what you were
taking, I don't bother with any of that, my use of AS is purely medical,
and I will stop as soon as I can, if ever - I already have nerve damage
and some paralysis from the injections done /exactly/ right). Are they
really being converted to androgenic/anabolic hormones? Are they just
broken down? Are they converted into female hormones? You'll /probably/
want to tell your doctor exactly what you took of these, too, if they
were prohormones.

Cheers,

Ari

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On Mar 27, 7:23 am, "Pete" <phouts....RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> >> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
> > I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> > varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.
>
> How much is that in milligrams?
>

the vials held 10 ml each.
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> > the vials held 10 ml each.
>
> and what was the concentration? how many mg of test per ml?
>
100 mg/ml
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:

>>> and what was the concentration? how many mg of test per ml?

>> 100 mg/ml

> So you were using about 500mg/week, yes? That's a moderate dose and can
> cause the issues you've experienced in some people.

In 2002 i tried 1500mg straight. No side effects. The reason i stopped after
4 weeks is because the rate of growth was a bit dissapointing, IOW, a gram
more or less did the same.

> I haven't had those issues and I haven't been on anti-estrogens or
> aromatase inhibitors (and your experience has given me cause to talk with
> my doctor further because if I get other side effects stopping the
> anabolics is not an option: my marrow shuts down again in under 2 weeks).

I think there are still many AS left that dont aromatize. And nandrolone is
not as bad as test.

I think with the right selection, you will never have to use an anti-est or
an aromataze inhibitor.

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