What to do about This pain?

Dnia 2006-10-24 tforms1 DeleteThis @yahoo.com napisa³(a):
>> I did loads of specific rotator cuff exercises and they never did
>> anything for me (with possible and minor exception of Cuban press).
>> Snatches did plenty of good, though.
>
> When I was in rehab, I saw other people who had tears, impingment, and
> other injuries, and we all did the SAME exercises!
> lol

Makes one think, doesn't it?

>> Nowadays I follow the mode of thinking I picked up on the net
>> somewhere, and it says that in case of troubles one should search for
>> weak synergist muscles, so rotator cuff tear indicates weak upper back
>> (for example), hamstring pull indicates weak glutes etc.
>
>
> That makes sense.
> Most of the time I've heard about shoulder injuries is that a lot of
> people work their chest a lot more than their backs, so theirs an
> inbalance.

I'm not sure, but I tend to think that bad posture can contribute to
shoulder problems even without significant imbalance. Also there are
those simple overuse injuries which you get by doing all things right,
but to much of it.

>> >> and get a medical opinion. Now that said, if you have a "bad" left
>
> Only problem with getting a medical opinion....I started a new job.
> Our work hours are 8 to 8 in another state.
> So I am not in my home state until Friday late night.
> And we were told not to take time off until quarter 2 of 2007.
>
> The things we do for a paycheck.

I say, try to figure it out on your own. It would be wonderful to get
qualified and expert opinion of someone who knows his stuff, but in
reality it might be difficult. I prefer to know nothing and be sure of
it than to follow some random opinion of someone who thinks he knows
something.

>> It won't work. Until you have something really common and clear, net
>> diagnosis will always be hit or miss affair.
>
> True.
> But I was hoping that there would be "general" exercises.
> Like I said, when I was in rehab for my Left shoulder, everyone who had
> shoulder problems (impingment, tear, etc) all did very similiar
> exercises:
> External cable rotations, lateral raise, rear lateral raises, straight
> arm pulldowns (like a pullover), cable rows, etc...in other words a lot
> of back work.

Statistically works fine, I think...

> When I went in for my bad lower back (I have vertibrate problems) I did
> the same generic exercises I saw other people do: stretch hamstrings,
> crunches, etc...

Which I happen to believe are sort of worthless... Deadlifts fixed my
back, not crunches. Crunches made it worse.

> So I thought my current pain in the right armpit/tricep area has been
> seen/experienced, and people had some general exercises I could do.

Take placebo. It's easier than "general" exercises.

>> There are other and exciting exercises so why not find something witch
>> is 100% fine for your shoulder and concentrate on it for a while?
>
> Any suggestions for a substitute for weighted pullups?
> I already do barbell rows.

OK, I'll give my opinion, but remember that it might be worth much less
than what you paid for it (I mean, it can hurt).

Chins lower your shoulder blades, so in case of problem like yours I'll
look at exercises which _elevate_ them. High pulls, power cleans, some
row variations, standing face pulls, even upright rows if you happen to
tolerate them and last but not least snatches.

I'd drop chins altogether and replace them with one of aforementioned
exercises and see what happens. You can build tremendous back without
chins. See some old-school back routines.

>> BTW - check your mobility. I bet it sucks big time.
>
> lol, my hamstrings are as tight as a 10 year old rubber band!

Do Romanian deadlifts. Or go full monty and do the routine I mentioned
above. You basically put the bar on the floor and add weight as you go
through exercises and then remove it as you continue.

It goes like:
Power snatch
power clean
high pull
romanian deadlift
bent over rows
curls

or something similar, but you get the general idea.

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R