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Marty McFly

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:17 pm
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Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I was
hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it workout and
what other muscles benefit from that workout?

Thanks for your time!

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Steve Freides

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:17 pm
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"Marty McFly" <noemail DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I
> was
> hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it
> workout and
> what other muscles benefit from that workout?

This what you're talking about?

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/LVPecDeckFly.html

-S-
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Jeff Finlayson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:17 pm
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Marty McFly wrote:

> What part of the chest does it work ?

The whole chest, the pec major.

> and what other muscles benefit ?

Front delts.


You'd better off using dumbbells.
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Marty McFly

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:53 am
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Thanks, yes that's it. Okay, stupid question, If that works the Pectoralis
Major, Sternal, and so does a bench press, than what's the point of doing
it? Does it work a different part of the Pectoral? Most machines have the
butterfly, as mine does.

Thanks


"Steve Freides" <steve.DeleteThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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> "Marty McFly" <noemail.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
> news:4PHWd.156723$JF2.140356@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> > Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I
> > was
> > hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it
> > workout and
> > what other muscles benefit from that workout?
>
> This what you're talking about?
>
> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/LVPecDeckFly.html
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:53 am
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"Marty McFly" <noemail.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, yes that's it. Okay, stupid question, If that works the
> Pectoralis
> Major, Sternal, and so does a bench press, than what's the point of
> doing
> it? Does it work a different part of the Pectoral? Most machines have
> the
> butterfly, as mine does.

All depends on what you're after. For most people who bench press, the
butterfly isn't necessary.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


> Thanks
>
>
> "Steve Freides" <steve.DeleteThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> news:3912i4F5rmviqU1@individual.net...
>> "Marty McFly" <noemail.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:4PHWd.156723$JF2.140356@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> > Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and
>> > I
>> > was
>> > hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it
>> > workout and
>> > what other muscles benefit from that workout?
>>
>> This what you're talking about?
>>
>> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/LVPecDeckFly.html
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:27 am
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Marty McFly wrote:
> Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I was
> hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it workout

pectoralis major

> and
> what other muscles benefit from that workout?

your shoulder joints don't benefit from the pec wreck machines

>
> Thanks for your time!
>
>


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:27 am
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spodosaurus <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>Marty McFly wrote:
>> Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I was
>> hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it workout
>
>pectoralis major
>
>> and
>> what other muscles benefit from that workout?
>
>your shoulder joints don't benefit from the pec wreck machines

"Benefit" how? They don't benefit from training the deltoid muscles,
but they may benefit by allowing you maintain pectoral strength after
rotator cuff injury. Been there, done that.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:56 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:56 am
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<paul.RemoveThis@paul.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 20:41:02 -0500, "Steve Freides"
> <steve.RemoveThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>
>> it? Does it work a different part of the Pectoral? Most machines have
>>> the
>>> butterfly, as mine does.
>>
>>All depends on what you're after. For most people who bench press,
>>the
>>butterfly isn't necessary.
>
> It may not be necessary but I find it to be a useful adjunct exercise
> done with light weights before doing the bench press. I use this
> exercise as a warm up and to stretch the pectoral muscles. I pause for
> several seconds at the extreme position where the pecs are maximally
> stretched.
>
> Having a history of rotator cuff problems I find that the warm up can
> help to reduce the chances of injuring myself when I do moderate to
> heavy bench presses. And since I have not had any problems with
> rotator cuff injuries (knock on wood) since doing the butterflies
> before bench press or dips, I will continue to do so.

Sounds like a fine idea - but I think you can accomplish much the same
thing by standing in a doorway, putting your forearms on the sides, and
leaning in.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:31 am
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JMW wrote:
> spodosaurus <spodosaurus.RemoveThis@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>
>>Marty McFly wrote:
>>
>>>Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I was
>>>hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it workout
>>
>>pectoralis major
>>
>>
>>>and
>>>what other muscles benefit from that workout?
>>
>>your shoulder joints don't benefit from the pec wreck machines
>
>
> "Benefit" how? They don't benefit from training the deltoid muscles,
> but they may benefit by allowing you maintain pectoral strength after
> rotator cuff injury. Been there, done that.

Rehabbing a RC injury with light weights for a range of motion is
different then trying to add progressively heavier poundages on a
machine that is not shoulder friendly.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:31 am
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spodosaurus <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>JMW wrote:
>> spodosaurus <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Marty McFly wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi everybody...I'm having a hard time finding an answer online and I was
>>>>hoping somebody could help me.. What part of the chest does it workout
>>>
>>>pectoralis major
>>>
>>>
>>>>and
>>>>what other muscles benefit from that workout?
>>>
>>>your shoulder joints don't benefit from the pec wreck machines
>>
>>
>> "Benefit" how? They don't benefit from training the deltoid muscles,
>> but they may benefit by allowing you maintain pectoral strength after
>> rotator cuff injury. Been there, done that.
>
>Rehabbing a RC injury with light weights for a range of motion is
>different then trying to add progressively heavier poundages on a
>machine that is not shoulder friendly.

I'm not talking about "rehabbing," Ari. I'm talking about real,
dyed-in-the-wool lifting -- the kind that maintains strength and
hypertrophy. When I hurt my shoulder, I could not bench press. I
could not do dumbbell flyes, either, due to the need to control
lateral movement of the dumbbells during both the eccentric and
concentric, which brought the rotator cuff muscles into play. I was
able to use the pec deck with very little discomfort in my shoulder,
and I was using nearly the full stack for the heavy sets.

YMMV. Everyone is different, and so are their injuries. However, I
experimented with just about every lift I could think of to maintain
my pectoral strength, and the pec deck was the only one I could use
with significant pain. In retrospect, after studying the movement,
I'm fairly sure why that was the case: no internal rotation.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:02 am
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