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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:02 pm
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"Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl.DeleteThis@BiteMeSpammeryahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "DZ" <246.DeleteThis@8019467.1342111221.11404.467.3937> wrote in message
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>> Steve Freides <steve.DeleteThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>>> "DZ" wrote:
>>>> Edna Pearl wrote:
>>>>> Yes.  I just posted a response to you over at asd.
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>>>> Nearly all responses here suggested increase in calorie intake under
>>>> the assumption that she wants to add muscle effectively.
>>>
>>> Perhaps nearly all, but at least two of us have suggested she's doing
>>> well and she should continue as she is.
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>> Since the number of responses cannot be a fractional number, "nearly
>> all" implies AT LEAST one, with two being the next good
>> possibility. Go back studying microtonalism in Ligeti
>>
>> DZ
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> All I know is what I've seen; I don't and won't pretend to be a scientist.
> I suspect this person does, indeed, have some starvation mode issues
> based on her long-term diet and exercise patterns. She has also mentioned
> enough body-image issues that I am concerned about the possibility of a
> borderline eating disorder. I'm more inclined to suggest that she eat
> than not. To the extent that people who do profess to understand the
> ever-changing scientific theories back me up on that, great, but I'm just
> one voice among others on Usenet. I have more experience than some and
> less experience than others when it comes to eating disorders, muscle
> building, and weight loss, but, again, I don't pretend to be an expert
> (or, for that matter, a die-hard fanatic about any way of eating or
> lifting).
I definitely do not have an eating disorder. Yeah, I have your typical body
image issues, and some self esteem stuff going on, but I'm not doing
anything extreme. I enjoy eating too much, and so starvation or whatever
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:35 pm
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Dnia 2006-11-08 Edna Pearl napisał(a):
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> not. To the extent that people who do profess to understand the
> ever-changing scientific theories
Scientific theories do not change (much).
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:52 am
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determined wrote:
> "Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl.DeleteThis@BiteMeSpammeryahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%Br4h.33575$Fi1.7149@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> "DZ" <246.DeleteThis@8019467.1342111221.11404.467.3937> wrote in message
>> news:6606@1024511227.145363751.17049.32445.28036...
>>> Steve Freides <steve.DeleteThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>>>> "DZ" wrote:
>>>>> Edna Pearl wrote:
>>>>>> Yes. I just posted a response to you over at asd.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nearly all responses here suggested increase in calorie intake
>>>>> under the assumption that she wants to add muscle effectively.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps nearly all, but at least two of us have suggested she's
>>>> doing well and she should continue as she is.
>>>
>>> Since the number of responses cannot be a fractional number, "nearly
>>> all" implies AT LEAST one, with two being the next good
>>> possibility. Go back studying microtonalism in Ligeti
>>>
>>> DZ
>>
>> All I know is what I've seen; I don't and won't pretend to be a
>> scientist. I suspect this person does, indeed, have some
>> starvation mode issues based on her long-term diet and exercise
>> patterns. She has also mentioned enough body-image issues that I am
>> concerned about the possibility of a borderline eating disorder. I'm more
>> inclined to suggest that she eat than not. To the extent
>> that people who do profess to understand the ever-changing
>> scientific theories back me up on that, great, but I'm just one
>> voice among others on Usenet. I have more experience than some and
>> less experience than others when it comes to eating disorders,
>> muscle building, and weight loss, but, again, I don't pretend to be
>> an expert (or, for that matter, a die-hard fanatic about any way of
>> eating or lifting).
>
> I definitely do not have an eating disorder. Yeah, I have your
> typical body image issues, and some self esteem stuff going on, but
> I'm not doing anything extreme. I enjoy eating too much, and so
> starvation or whatever just really isn't an option for me.
Edna is obviously a Usenet shrink.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:08 am
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:58 am
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"determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> schreef:
>>> Also, I am 5'3" and currently weigh 129 lbs at 26% bodyfat. I have been
>>> eating around 1200-1400 calories per day, but I've been told by the
>>> people at my gym that is much too low with the amt of exercise I'm
>>> doing, and that I should eat more to preserve muscle loss and slow the
>>> weight loss down to .5 of a lb per week. I am currently not losing more
>>> than 1lb a week. Do I really need to eat more?
>> You allready forgot what Lyle told you 3 years ago?
> God, was I talking about this 3 years ago? I guess I did forget...
I think you asked it more then once.
I also think a lot of guys over here were trying to help you.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:58 am
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"Pete" <phoutstra DeleteThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "determined" <determined DeleteThis @comcast.nest> schreef:
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>>>> Also, I am 5'3" and currently weigh 129 lbs at 26% bodyfat. I have
>>>> been eating around 1200-1400 calories per day, but I've been told by
>>>> the people at my gym that is much too low with the amt of exercise I'm
>>>> doing, and that I should eat more to preserve muscle loss and slow the
>>>> weight loss down to .5 of a lb per week. I am currently not losing
>>>> more than 1lb a week. Do I really need to eat more?
>
>>> You allready forgot what Lyle told you 3 years ago?
>
>> God, was I talking about this 3 years ago? I guess I did forget...
>
> I think you asked it more then once.
>
> I also think a lot of guys over here were trying to help you.
>
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> Pete
Well, you were right. I went back and googled and see I was asking the
exact same stuff... I apologize. I don't want to be redundant! I guess
I'm actually doing pretty good, I just need to be patient... Once I get
down to a certain bodyfat %, it'll be time to start adding muscle back on. >> Stay informed about: muscle loss during diet |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:32 pm
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"Bully" <bully1 RemoveThis @proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:
>> I definitely do not have an eating disorder. Yeah, I have your
>> typical body image issues, and some self esteem stuff going on, but
>> I'm not doing anything extreme. I enjoy eating too much, and so
>> starvation or whatever just really isn't an option for me.
> Edna is obviously a Usenet shrink.
Both you and i are UseNet psychotics.
How a about a group session with Edna?
And dont forget to bring the AstroGlide. I will bring the magic marker.
You know... the artwork.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:32 pm
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Pete wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1.TakeThisOut@proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:
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>>> I definitely do not have an eating disorder. Yeah, I have your
>>> typical body image issues, and some self esteem stuff going on, but
>>> I'm not doing anything extreme. I enjoy eating too much, and so
>>> starvation or whatever just really isn't an option for me.
>
>> Edna is obviously a Usenet shrink.
>
> Both you and i are UseNet psychotics.
We are? I mean - we ARE!
>
> How a about a group session with Edna?
> And dont forget to bring the AstroGlide. I will bring the magic
> marker.
> You know... the artwork.
Not....a tramp stamp?
>
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:28 pm
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"determined" <determined DeleteThis @comcast.nest> schreef:
>>>> You allready forgot what Lyle told you 3 years ago?
>>> God, was I talking about this 3 years ago? I guess I did forget...
>> I think you asked it more then once.
>> I also think a lot of guys over here were trying to help you.
> Well, you were right. I went back and googled and see I was asking the
> exact same stuff... I apologize. I don't want to be redundant! I guess
> I'm actually doing pretty good, I just need to be patient... Once I get
> down to a certain bodyfat %, it'll be time to start adding muscle back on.
Oh, its cool Betsy.
BTW, how is your dog?
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:28 pm
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"Pete" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "determined" <determined RemoveThis @comcast.nest> schreef:
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>>>>> You allready forgot what Lyle told you 3 years ago?
>
>>>> God, was I talking about this 3 years ago? I guess I did forget...
>
>>> I think you asked it more then once.
>
>>> I also think a lot of guys over here were trying to help you.
>
>> Well, you were right. I went back and googled and see I was asking the
>> exact same stuff... I apologize. I don't want to be redundant! I guess
>> I'm actually doing pretty good, I just need to be patient... Once I get
>> down to a certain bodyfat %, it'll be time to start adding muscle back
>> on.
>
> Oh, its cool Betsy.
>
> BTW, how is your dog?
My dog? My !@#!@@! do will not go to the bathroom in the rain, or even if
there is a hint of moisture on the ground, so has taken to pooping behind
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:57 pm
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"determined" <determined DeleteThis @comcast.nest> schreef:
>> Oh, its cool Betsy.
>> BTW, how is your dog?
> My dog? My !@#!@@! do will not go to the bathroom in the rain, or even if
> there is a hint of moisture on the ground, so has taken to pooping behind
> our couch.
I guess i asked for that...
Does he eat it afterwards?
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:39 pm
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"Pete" <phoutstra.TakeThisOut@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "determined" <determined.TakeThisOut@comcast.nest> schreef:
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>>> Oh, its cool Betsy.
>
>>> BTW, how is your dog?
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>> My dog? My !@#!@@! do will not go to the bathroom in the rain, or even
>> if there is a hint of moisture on the ground, so has taken to pooping
>> behind our couch.
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> I guess i asked for that...
lol... not anymore. >> Stay informed about: muscle loss during diet |
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:34 am
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:05 pm
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"determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> schreef:
>>>> BTW, how is your dog?
>>> My dog? My !@#!@@! do will not go to the bathroom in the rain, or even
>>> if there is a hint of moisture on the ground, so has taken to pooping
>>> behind our couch.
>> I guess i asked for that...
> lol... not anymore.
Well...
First line of this post is "BTW, how is your dog?"
You kicked him out of the house?
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