maxing vo2 test

George Colbert wrote:
> to be absolutely honest - the info is for my friend doing a
> firefighting course. anyway for whatever reason (intelligent
> or not) they are using this one number to weed out candidates.

So, let me see if I understand you correctly. Your friend would
like to know if there is some way to cheat so that he/she can
pass a qualifying test for a public service position that involves
life-and-death situations.
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Hey Steve, thanks for the input - to be absolutely honest - the info is for
my friend doing a firefighting course. anyway for whatever reason
(intelligent or not) they are using this one number to weed out candidates.
I have a background in swimming and vo 2 testing and realize that that is
crazy. anyway if there are any tips out there, my buddy would be quite keen
in maxing out the test (it is in three weeks, so losing weight and that sort
of thing are kind of out)

thanks

gc
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> "George Colbert" <colbertgeorge.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Im curious about ways to max out a vo2 test. Im doing a one time test
>> and have been training for over 6 months for this test (it is part of a
>> job process). any tips as to how to maximize the results - caffeine,
>> etc??? Thanks,
>
> It's an interesting number but not ultimately a make-or-break determinant
> of performance in any sport. What is the point of maxing the test?
> Usually such tests provide a baseline around which to build a training
> program. If the number is artificially high, the training program will be
> off. Physical performance tests for LEO, military, etc., usually involve
> activities, not a VO2 max test.
>
> -S-
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>
>
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"George Colbert" <colbertgeorge.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Steve, thanks for the input - to be absolutely honest - the info
> is for my friend doing a firefighting course. anyway for whatever
> reason (intelligent or not) they are using this one number to weed out
> candidates. I have a background in swimming and vo 2 testing and
> realize that that is crazy. anyway if there are any tips out there,
> my buddy would be quite keen in maxing out the test (it is in three
> weeks, so losing weight and that sort of thing are kind of out)

The validity of the test is something I hope someone challenges.

Sorry, I have no suggestions - I've never taken a VO2 max test although
I've certainly read a lot about them. Good luck to your friend. The
best idea I can think of - he should find out how this VO2 max test is
done, have it done somewhere now, and get an idea of where he stands -
if he's well over their cut-off, no need to worry about it further.

-S-
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> thanks
>
> gc
> "Steve Freides" <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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>> "George Colbert" <colbertgeorge.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OvHcg.11985$A26.285890@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>> Im curious about ways to max out a vo2 test. Im doing a one time
>>> test and have been training for over 6 months for this test (it is
>>> part of a job process). any tips as to how to maximize the
>>> results - caffeine, etc??? Thanks,
>>
>> It's an interesting number but not ultimately a make-or-break
>> determinant of performance in any sport. What is the point of maxing
>> the test? Usually such tests provide a baseline around which to build
>> a training program. If the number is artificially high, the training
>> program will be off. Physical performance tests for LEO, military,
>> etc., usually involve activities, not a VO2 max test.
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>
>>
>
>
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George Colbert wrote:
> Hey Joe, perhaps you should look into the scenario before
> you post any crack comments. what is vo2 max but a test
> to measure how much oxygen your muscles can absorb in
> a min - now tell me how a single test can predict how capable
> a man would be at performing successfully as a firefighter?

I fully understand your point of view. There are pros and cons
on the subject. Frankly, I tend to agree with you. Just I feel
that drug testing tells you nothing about prospective new hires,
with some exceptions.

But that is neither here nor there. The point is: you are asking
for ideas so that you -- I mean your friend -- can cheat on a
qualifying test. That is a reflection of your character, not mine.

If nothing else, you -- or your friend -- has much more to lose
if your cheating is discovered, whether or not you (your friend)
would have qualified legitimately.
 >> Stay informed about: maxing vo2 test 

Hey Joe, perhaps you should look into the scenario before you post any crack
comments. what is vo2 max but a test to measure how much oxygen your
muscles can absorb in a min - now tell me how a single test can predict how
capable a man would be at performing successfully as a firefighter?
Further, higher vo2 max levels are often found in lighter individuals - this
guy is about 6' and 210 pounds of muscle, in a life or death situation,
public or private service - I would imagine you want my burley friend to
save you and your cute little tabby cat collection rather then a a guy 5'5
and 130 pouinds with a 65 vo2. thanks for the trolling

gc
<joeu2004.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> George Colbert wrote:
>> to be absolutely honest - the info is for my friend doing a
>> firefighting course. anyway for whatever reason (intelligent
>> or not) they are using this one number to weed out candidates.
>
> So, let me see if I understand you correctly. Your friend would
> like to know if there is some way to cheat so that he/she can
> pass a qualifying test for a public service position that involves
> life-and-death situations.
>
 >> Stay informed about: maxing vo2 test 

Joe, again go to the original message, which states "im looking for TIPS to
maximize performance". I even had mentioned caffeiene (perhaps a large cup
o joe before the performance). Im thinking that there may be tips available
that can help performance in a vo2 test - im not talking about blood doping
or anything on a level that dubious, but rather tips. I was looking for
easy common insights that i was not aware of. perhaps cutting meat or
something out of your diet (just an example) would lead to a higher score -
I dont know the answer but thought in the esteemed group I would likely find
someone.

thanks

gc
<joeu2004.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> George Colbert wrote:
>> Hey Joe, perhaps you should look into the scenario before
>> you post any crack comments. what is vo2 max but a test
>> to measure how much oxygen your muscles can absorb in
>> a min - now tell me how a single test can predict how capable
>> a man would be at performing successfully as a firefighter?
>
> I fully understand your point of view. There are pros and cons
> on the subject. Frankly, I tend to agree with you. Just I feel
> that drug testing tells you nothing about prospective new hires,
> with some exceptions.
>
> But that is neither here nor there. The point is: you are asking
> for ideas so that you -- I mean your friend -- can cheat on a
> qualifying test. That is a reflection of your character, not mine.
>
> If nothing else, you -- or your friend -- has much more to lose
> if your cheating is discovered, whether or not you (your friend)
> would have qualified legitimately.
>
 >> Stay informed about: maxing vo2 test 

"George Colbert" <colbertgeorge.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Im curious about ways to max out a vo2 test. Im doing a one time test and
> have been training for over 6 months for this test (it is part of a job
> process). any tips as to how to maximize the results - caffeine, etc???
> Thanks,
>
> George
>

Time is limited, but the best thing to do at this point is to do some
workouts that simulate the test conditions. E.g. if the test will be done on
a treadmill using a specific protocol, find out the details of that protocol
and practice at the specific treadmill speeds and elevations.

If the test calls for walking at a slower speed, like 3.5 or 4.0 mph and a
relative steep incline, like 14% or 16%, you will perform much better if you
have practiced walking at those inclines.

Becoming familiar with and training for the test protocol are probably the
most effective things you can do at this point to maximize test performance.
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