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John Hanson wrote:

> Is there any other kind of coffee than black?

Dandelion Root would be one !

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"John Hanson" <jhanson.RemoveThis@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 09:54:40 -0500, "Nicholas D" <ABC.RemoveThis@123.com> wrote
> in misc.fitness.weights:
>
>>
>>"Robert Low" <N0mtx014.RemoveThis@SPAMcoventry.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>>> Bully wrote:
>>>> John Hanson wrote:
>>>>>Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight.
>>>> How so?
>>>
>>> Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rob
>>
>>Or make sure there are no additives such as milk sugar or other
>>flavorings.
>>Black coffee also is a bronchodilator BTW.
>>
> Is there any other kind of coffee than black?
>

Yes add milk or any type of creamer you will see it change color.
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In article <38eg9bF5mc2t1U1.RemoveThis@individual.net>, "Bully"
<neil.simpson.RemoveThis@virgin.net> wrote:

> Robert Low wrote:
> > Bully wrote:
> >> John Hanson wrote:
> >>> Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight. How so?
> >
> > Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
>
> Doesn't the water in the coffee counteract this?

Somewhat, but when you are dehydrating it is nice just to get something in you.

The last 5-6 hours before weigh-in all liquid is off limits. You keep a
scale and basically do what you have to do. I've done the 'boil' - into
the tub as hot as you can stand it and then keep putting in boiling hot
water. You keep it as hot as possible. My experience is 2-3 lbs in the
first 20 minutes and about a 1 lb every 20 minutes after that.

OTOH, I weigh 220 lbs.
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"Hobbes" <khobman800.RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <38eg9bF5mc2t1U1.RemoveThis@individual.net>, "Bully"
> <neil.simpson.RemoveThis@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> Robert Low wrote:
>> > Bully wrote:
>> >> John Hanson wrote:
>> >>> Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight. How so?
>> >
>> > Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
>>
>> Doesn't the water in the coffee counteract this?
>
> Somewhat, but when you are dehydrating it is nice just to get something in
> you.
>
> The last 5-6 hours before weigh-in all liquid is off limits. You keep a
> scale and basically do what you have to do. I've done the 'boil' - into
> the tub as hot as you can stand it and then keep putting in boiling hot
> water. You keep it as hot as possible. My experience is 2-3 lbs in the
> first 20 minutes and about a 1 lb every 20 minutes after that.
>
> OTOH, I weigh 220 lbs.

The "boil"??

There is a visual for monday norning breakfast.

A bright red Hobman, from head to toe!

The Horror, The Horror!!
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Dnia 2005-02-26 The Sanity Cruzer napisa³(a):
>
> IMO, you're probably not in that great of condition for MMA and you'd better
> hope your opponent is not 8% bodyfat, and he's cutting 9 lbs of water from
> his system the day before the bout to make weight. If that's the case,
> he'll have almost 10% more muscle than you, which translates to about 14 lbs
> of muscle against 14 lbs. of fat.

If it was so simple, there would be no need for an actual fight. Just
measure guys up and give a victory to the fittest one .

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Robert Low wrote:
> Bully wrote:
>> Robert Low wrote:
>>> Bully wrote:
>>>> John Hanson wrote:
>>>>> Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight.
>>>> How so?
>>> Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
>> Doesn't the water in the coffee counteract this?
>
> Are you taking the piss?
No.

> If not, the coffee will.
> The point is, the caffeine makes you pee more than
> the amount of coffee you drank.
Do you actually have any proof of this?



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In article <38k2klF5q893dU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>, "Bully"
<neil.simpson.TakeThisOut@virgin.net> wrote:

> Robert Low wrote:
> > Bully wrote:
> >> Robert Low wrote:
> >>> Bully wrote:
> >>>> John Hanson wrote:
> >>>>> Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight.
> >>>> How so?
> >>> Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
> >> Doesn't the water in the coffee counteract this?
> >
> > Are you taking the piss?
> No.
>
> > If not, the coffee will.
> > The point is, the caffeine makes you pee more than
> > the amount of coffee you drank.
> Do you actually have any proof of this?

Dunno if he has proof. My experience has been to drink the coffee and you
generally continue dehydrating even though you are taking fluid in.

I still quit drinking coffee about 8-12 hours before weighin.
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:51:49 -0600, khobman800.RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com
(Hobbes) wrote:

>In article <38k2klF5q893dU1.RemoveThis@individual.net>, "Bully"
><neil.simpson.RemoveThis@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> Robert Low wrote:
>> > Bully wrote:
>> >> Robert Low wrote:
>> >>> Bully wrote:
>> >>>> John Hanson wrote:
>> >>>>> Actually, drinking coffee will help a person drop weight.
>> >>>> How so?
>> >>> Diuretic effect---assuming the coffee isn't decaff.
>> >> Doesn't the water in the coffee counteract this?
>> >
>> > Are you taking the piss?
>> No.
>>
>> > If not, the coffee will.
>> > The point is, the caffeine makes you pee more than
>> > the amount of coffee you drank.
>> Do you actually have any proof of this?
>
>Dunno if he has proof. My experience has been to drink the coffee and you
>generally continue dehydrating even though you are taking fluid in.
>
>I still quit drinking coffee about 8-12 hours before weighin.

It may be true if you don't generally drink coffee.

But if you drink it chronically, like many people do, you'll reach a
steady state of hydration. That level may be a bit lower than
non-coffee drinkers, but if a person were to get 100% of their fluid
intake from coffee, I very much doubt they'd die of dehydration.
They'd just be a little less hydrated than the average person.

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The benefits of coffee for weight loss: short term, it is a light diuretic,
meaning it'll make you urinate. That is also because of the major
weight-loss benefit: it'll curb your metabolism, meaning it'll up your heart
rate, and that means your body burns more calories. Hence some weight loss.
That's why every weight loss pill has caffeine in it. But those effects will
be very mild in only 9 days.

....pablo
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In article <hQcVd.8421$OU1.597@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "pablo"
<pablo.at.simply DeleteThis @hombre.dot.net> wrote:

> The benefits of coffee for weight loss: short term, it is a light diuretic,
> meaning it'll make you urinate. That is also because of the major
> weight-loss benefit: it'll curb your metabolism, meaning it'll up your heart
> rate, and that means your body burns more calories. Hence some weight loss.
> That's why every weight loss pill has caffeine in it. But those effects will
> be very mild in only 9 days.

I'll tell you one thing - I hate making weight by using diuretics. Sleep
becomes a huge issue. I much prefer getting within a couple of kgs of
weight and then sweating it off with a sauna or tub just prior to weighin.
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:01:36 -0600, khobman800 DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com
(Hobbes) wrote:

>In article <hQcVd.8421$OU1.597@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "pablo"
><pablo.at.simply DeleteThis @hombre.dot.net> wrote:
>
>> The benefits of coffee for weight loss: short term, it is a light diuretic,
>> meaning it'll make you urinate. That is also because of the major
>> weight-loss benefit: it'll curb your metabolism, meaning it'll up your heart
>> rate, and that means your body burns more calories. Hence some weight loss.
>> That's why every weight loss pill has caffeine in it. But those effects will
>> be very mild in only 9 days.
>
>I'll tell you one thing - I hate making weight by using diuretics. Sleep
>becomes a huge issue. I much prefer getting within a couple of kgs of
>weight and then sweating it off with a sauna or tub just prior to weighin.

I've always been rather against those that are in sports that have
weight divisions, such as boxers and jockeys, feverishly attempting to
gain advantage by competing one division below optimum.

I know there is advantage to being at the top end of the weight
division, but it occurs to me that it would be much better to compete
at a weight level that is 'comfortably' achieved, and a reliably
accurate arbiter of the division in which the competitor 'should' be
competing.

I always comfortably made middleweight when I was boxing, and met some
very cumbersome opponents who should quite clearly have been in the
division above.

I have often thought that competitors should 'weigh in' immediately
before a bout, and stop all the 'cheating', for have no doubt, that is
in fact what it is!!
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In article <pfjb2117vl22mg3m9p7eujk7858qudl52h.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Charles
<charles.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:01:36 -0600, khobman800.RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com
> (Hobbes) wrote:
>
> >In article <hQcVd.8421$OU1.597@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "pablo"
> ><pablo.at.simply.RemoveThis@hombre.dot.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The benefits of coffee for weight loss: short term, it is a light
diuretic,
> >> meaning it'll make you urinate. That is also because of the major
> >> weight-loss benefit: it'll curb your metabolism, meaning it'll up
your heart
> >> rate, and that means your body burns more calories. Hence some weight
loss.
> >> That's why every weight loss pill has caffeine in it. But those
effects will
> >> be very mild in only 9 days.
> >
> >I'll tell you one thing - I hate making weight by using diuretics. Sleep
> >becomes a huge issue. I much prefer getting within a couple of kgs of
> >weight and then sweating it off with a sauna or tub just prior to weighin.
>
> I've always been rather against those that are in sports that have
> weight divisions, such as boxers and jockeys, feverishly attempting to
> gain advantage by competing one division below optimum.
>
> I know there is advantage to being at the top end of the weight
> division, but it occurs to me that it would be much better to compete
> at a weight level that is 'comfortably' achieved, and a reliably
> accurate arbiter of the division in which the competitor 'should' be
> competing.
>
> I always comfortably made middleweight when I was boxing, and met some
> very cumbersome opponents who should quite clearly have been in the
> division above.
>
> I have often thought that competitors should 'weigh in' immediately
> before a bout, and stop all the 'cheating', for have no doubt, that is
> in fact what it is!!

No, I don't agree with the term 'cheating'. Weightlifting is weighed in
within 2 hours of competition. If you drop too much, you pay a price in
performance. OTOH, dropping a couple of kilos is easy, comfortable and
doesn't affect performance.

Wrestling is where the problem lies. In a three or four day tournament you
can weight in 8-10 kgs under what you wrestle at the last day of the
tournament. If one wrestler goes that route the rest of the field are
pretty much forced to do so to be competitive. It is not cheating to
follow the rules of the game and level the playing field.

You simply cannot give up 8-10 kgs at international level and wrestle
effectively in most weight classes. It can't be done.

The solution? Simple. As you suggest - weigh in just prior to the bout.
Especially in high school sports it is ludicrous not following this
advice. It is no big deal to have a scale sitting ringside and make them
weigh in.
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"Hobbes" <khobman800.TakeThisOut@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The solution? Simple. As you suggest - weigh in just prior to the bout.
> Especially in high school sports it is ludicrous not following this
> advice. It is no big deal to have a scale sitting ringside and make them
> weigh in.

Regarding boxing, they moved the weigh-ins to the day prior to the bouts
specifically so the fighters would have the opportunity to rehydrated
themselves. Fighters are going to 'dry out', regardless of when they
weigh-in relative to their bouts. Athletic commissions in boxing decided it
was safer, if fighters are going to 'dry out' regardless of the weigh-in
time, the safest thing to was to give the fighters ample time to replace the
liquids in their body.
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