Will Michael Vick Commit Suicide in Prison?

On 2007-08-21 17:23:16 +0100, "the dog from that film you saw"
<dsb.TakeThisOut@removethisportionbtinternet.com> said:

>>> you SAD FUCKER!
>>
>> People in glass houses. MISTER FUCKING WRESTLING.
>
> i don't watch wrestling - i watch MMA - genuine real life martial arts
> contests. only wrestling i've ever watched is giant haystacks

You're quite a GAY person, aren't you?

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"cailinsdad" <denisendan.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:40:52 +0100, ReVulse
> <ReVulse.TakeThisOut@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>When Vick started, I thought he was going to be one of the greatest QBs of
>>all time. Unfortunately, his performance seemed to diminish over the
>>following seasons (I don't follow the Falcons, so I've no idea how much
>>the rest of the team were to blame). This latest knockback could turn him
>>into another could-have-been.
>
> Personally, I think Vick was on his last leg with the Falcons before
> this incident. I will be surprised to see him take the field again.
> Even if he does return, I doubt it could be before the 2010 season.
> Missing two full season's when you are already an underachieving,
> underdeveloped, QB will be almost impossible to rebound from.

I agree. And his contracts are gone. No one wants to be associated with a
dog killer. I think that Blank should have insured that contract, the way
studios do with movie stars. If you can't behave, you can't get insurance.
Blank just blew a lot of money on that idiot.
Kendall
>
>
>
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"Al Bino" <albinogarcia DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>YOU meant HAYSTACKS CALHOUN? He weighed about 600 pounds. I remember him.

How about Dick "The Bulldog" Brower?
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"Al Bino" <albinogar....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now that Michael Vick will be spending at least a year away

Vick hasn't been sentenced yet. The plea agreement, according to an
anonymous source, is for 18 months max, iirc. However I also read that
the judge is not held to that time limit. What's the purpose of a plea
*if* that's the case?

> from his millions of dollars, does anyone think that Vick might
> get killed in prison or commit suicide??

I doubt he'll get killed or commit suicide in jail or out.

> Can Vick tough it out like Mike Tyson did, or will he become a mental case
> like Paris Hilton and demand to be transferred into the Prison Medical Ward?

I also doubt Vick will react as Paris did.

No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I am
curious about the outrage over animal deaths. You can buy horse meat
from a butcher in France. Monkey meat on the street in the
Philippines. People hunt deer with bow and arrow and assorted firearms
in the U.S. And we're paying soldiers to kill Iraqis and Afghanis
(they're human beings, btw) in ways some would describe as not
dissimiliar to dogfighting. I don't get it. Slap Vick on the hand and
say, bad QB, bad.

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Curt
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> Missing two full season's when you are already an underachieving,
> underdeveloped, QB will be almost impossible to rebound from.

Well stated. Negroes are not leaders. They're criminals.
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:02:55 -0700, Curt <curtjames.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby,

is that what he was doing? fighting dogs? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, I hope
the bastard rots.

At least Mike Tyson only RAPED A NIGGER.
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"Curt" <> No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I
am
> curious about the outrage over animal deaths. >

Dogs are supposed to be pets in the USA. Michelangelo stated that you can
know how civilized a society is based on how they treat their animals. Yes,
there is hunting permitted and we kill beef, chickens, etc., for food too.
But at least we don't eat dogs and cats like the Asians do. Maybe it is not
a big distinction, but I think in part Michael Vick crossed that line as to
what people think is the minimum civilized behavior.

Additionally, Vick is not being prosecuted for fighting the dogs, he is
being prosecuted for gambling on them and KILLING THEM IN COLD BLOOD by
strangling the dogs, electrocuting them, drowning them. Hunters shoot
animals with a bow or rifle, but if there were people out there strangling
deer, ducks, and squirrels I think most people would have the same reaction
of disgust. The NAACP wants to say it is just about hunters vs. Michael
Vick, and they are deflecting people away from the extreme cruelty and
savage animalism of the way that these dogs were killed. These guys were
torturing these dogs to death.
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On Aug 22, 6:25 pm, "Al Bino" <albinogar... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <> No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I
> am curious about the outrage over animal deaths. >
>
> Dogs are supposed to be pets in the USA. Michelangelo stated that you can
> know how civilized a society is based on how they treat their animals. Yes,
> there is hunting permitted and we kill beef, chickens, etc., for food too.
> But at least we don't eat dogs and cats like the Asians do. Maybe it is not
> a big distinction, but I think in part Michael Vick crossed that line as to
> what people think is the minimum civilized behavior.
>
> Additionally, Vick is not being prosecuted for fighting the dogs, he is
> being prosecuted for gambling on them and KILLING THEM IN COLD BLOOD by
> strangling the dogs, electrocuting them, drowning them. Hunters shoot
> animals with a bow or rifle,

Well stated. I hadn't read about strangling, electrocuting, drowning,
etc. Dogfighting is bad enough, but that's incredibly cruel.

> but if there were people out there strangling deer, ducks, and squirrels I
> think most people would have the same reaction of disgust.

Otoh, if you saw someone actually trying to strangle a squirrel, I
suspect you'd react with something other than disgust.

"Whaa? What is that guy doing? Is he... he is! He's got his fingers
around that squirrels little neck!"

Bewilderment might be a better description. And attempting to strangle
a 200-pound deer might be pretty funny. I'd pay to see that. And you'd
pay for your own doctor bills.

http://www.hunting.net/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx?id=63

> The NAACP wants to say it is just about hunters vs. Michael
> Vick, and they are deflecting people away from the extreme cruelty and
> savage animalism of the way that these dogs were killed. These guys were
> torturing these dogs to death.

Interesting.

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On Aug 22, 8:52 pm, "Gooserider" <Gooseri....RemoveThis@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <curtja....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187791375.951701.226780@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > "Al Bino" <albinogar....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Now that Michael Vick will be spending at least a year away
>
> > Vick hasn't been sentenced yet. The plea agreement, according to an
> > anonymous source, is for 18 months max, iirc. However I also read that
> > the judge is not held to that time limit. What's the purpose of a plea
> > *if* that's the case?
>
> >> from his millions of dollars, does anyone think that Vick might
> >> get killed in prison or commit suicide??
>
> > I doubt he'll get killed or commit suicide in jail or out.
>
> >> Can Vick tough it out like Mike Tyson did, or will he become a mental
> >> case
> >> like Paris Hilton and demand to be transferred into the Prison Medical
> >> Ward?
>
> > I also doubt Vick will react as Paris did.
>
> > No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I am
> > curious about the outrage over animal deaths. You can buy horse meat
> > from a butcher in France. Monkey meat on the street in the
> > Philippines. People hunt deer with bow and arrow and assorted firearms
> > in the U.S. And we're paying soldiers to kill Iraqis and Afghanis
> > (they're human beings, btw) in ways some would describe as not
> > dissimiliar to dogfighting. I don't get it. Slap Vick on the hand and
> > say, bad QB, bad.
>
> Dogs are pets. Was he EATING THE DOGS??? No.

Did you see the youtubed National Lampoon parody? Regardless, there
are hunters who hunt for sport rather than food. I don't see a huge
distinction, actually.

> Your point is not made, Curt.

It's always about a point, isn't it. Dear Perry Mason, sometimes it
can be just about the counterpoint.

> Vick was engaged in a criminal activity which was defined by its cruelty.
> Hunters are not cruel. Butchers are not cruel. Putting two dogs into a pit
> and allowing them to tear each other to shreds---then electrocuting or
> drowning the loser---is a sign of a defective, dangerous personality. Those
> sorts of people need to go to prison.

I'm reading this:

| the NFL star agreed Monday to "accept full
| responsibility" for his role in a dogfighting
| ring and plead guilty to federal conspiracy
| charges.

Did Vick confess to drowning or electrocuting dogs? Did they define
what is "role in a dogfighting ring" consisted of? I mean, "Three of
Vick's original co-defendants already had pleaded guilty and agreed to
testify against him if the case went to trial. Quanis Phillips of
Atlanta and Purnell Peace of Virginia Beach signed statements saying
Vick participated in executing at least eight under-performing dogs by
various means, including drowning and hanging" sounds suspicious.
Suddenly Phillips and Peace are trustworthy and credible young men?
No. They're attempting to save their own behinds.

Otoh, people do some crazy things and I wouldn't be surprised if Vick
is guilty of it all.

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On Aug 22, 10:08 pm, Chris <cultflicks2....RemoveThis@NOSPAMyahoo.ca> wrote:
[...]

> Lock him up and throw away the key:
>
> http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2752

Well, you have certainly made YOUR point. That's horrifying. If Vick
paid a penny for anything related to that mutilation then, yes, he
deserves a whopping fine and at least 12 months in prison. No
question.

Of course, President Bush should be in the next cell over.

http://tinyurl.com/3dln3n

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"Curt" <curtjames.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Al Bino" <albinogar....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Now that Michael Vick will be spending at least a year away
>
> Vick hasn't been sentenced yet. The plea agreement, according to an
> anonymous source, is for 18 months max, iirc. However I also read that
> the judge is not held to that time limit. What's the purpose of a plea
> *if* that's the case?
>
>> from his millions of dollars, does anyone think that Vick might
>> get killed in prison or commit suicide??
>
> I doubt he'll get killed or commit suicide in jail or out.
>
>> Can Vick tough it out like Mike Tyson did, or will he become a mental
>> case
>> like Paris Hilton and demand to be transferred into the Prison Medical
>> Ward?
>
> I also doubt Vick will react as Paris did.
>
> No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I am
> curious about the outrage over animal deaths. You can buy horse meat
> from a butcher in France. Monkey meat on the street in the
> Philippines. People hunt deer with bow and arrow and assorted firearms
> in the U.S. And we're paying soldiers to kill Iraqis and Afghanis
> (they're human beings, btw) in ways some would describe as not
> dissimiliar to dogfighting. I don't get it. Slap Vick on the hand and
> say, bad QB, bad.


Dogs are pets. Was he EATING THE DOGS??? No. Your point is not made, Curt.
Vick was engaged in a criminal activity which was defined by its cruelty.
Hunters are not cruel. Butchers are not cruel. Putting two dogs into a pit
and allowing them to tear each other to shreds---then electrocuting or
drowning the loser---is a sign of a defective, dangerous personality. Those
sorts of people need to go to prison.
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Gooserider wrote:
> "Curt" <curtjames.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1187791375.951701.226780@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>> "Al Bino" <albinogar....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Now that Michael Vick will be spending at least a year away
>> Vick hasn't been sentenced yet. The plea agreement, according to an
>> anonymous source, is for 18 months max, iirc. However I also read that
>> the judge is not held to that time limit. What's the purpose of a plea
>> *if* that's the case?
>>
>>> from his millions of dollars, does anyone think that Vick might
>>> get killed in prison or commit suicide??
>> I doubt he'll get killed or commit suicide in jail or out.
>>
>>> Can Vick tough it out like Mike Tyson did, or will he become a mental
>>> case
>>> like Paris Hilton and demand to be transferred into the Prison Medical
>>> Ward?
>> I also doubt Vick will react as Paris did.
>>
>> No doubt that dogfighting is a poor choice for a hobby, however I am
>> curious about the outrage over animal deaths. You can buy horse meat
>> from a butcher in France. Monkey meat on the street in the
>> Philippines. People hunt deer with bow and arrow and assorted firearms
>> in the U.S. And we're paying soldiers to kill Iraqis and Afghanis
>> (they're human beings, btw) in ways some would describe as not
>> dissimiliar to dogfighting. I don't get it. Slap Vick on the hand and
>> say, bad QB, bad.
>
>
> Dogs are pets. Was he EATING THE DOGS??? No. Your point is not made, Curt.
> Vick was engaged in a criminal activity which was defined by its cruelty.
> Hunters are not cruel. Butchers are not cruel. Putting two dogs into a pit
> and allowing them to tear each other to shreds---then electrocuting or
> drowning the loser---is a sign of a defective, dangerous personality. Those
> sorts of people need to go to prison.

Lock him up and throw away the key:

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2752

Chris
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"Curt" <> Did Vick confess to drowning or electrocuting dogs? Did they
define
> what is "role in a dogfighting ring" consisted of? >

a.. "Peace, Phillips, and Vick executed approximately 8 dogs that did not
perform well in 'testing' sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by various
methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body
to the ground."
The operation of Bad Newz Kennels was typical of many dogfighting ventures:

They were alleged to "purchase pit bulls for use in dog fighting...train and
breed pit bulls...[and] develop the animal fighting venture's pool of pit
bulls by testing the fighting prowess of dogs within the venture...and
destroying or otherwise disposing of dogs not selected to stay with the
ongoing animal fighting venture."


a.. "In or about the summer of 2002 at various times, Peace, Phillips,
Taylor, and Vick 'rolled' or 'tested' some of their fighting
dogs...'Rolling' or 'testing' a fighting dog means placing the dog in a
short fighting match to determine how well the animal fights. One of the pit
bulls...in this session did not fight very well. ...Peace executed the pit
bull that did not fight very well by shooting it with a .22 caliber pistol."


b.. Later, "Taylor executed at least two dogs that did not perform well in
'testing' sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by shooting one dog and
electrocuting the other."


c.. "On the property, there was "a fence to shield the rear portion of the
compound from public view; multiple sheds used at various times to house
training equipment, injured dogs, and organized fights...and kennels and
buried car axles with chains for the pit bulls. The buried car axles allow
the dog chains to pivot, allowing the pit bulls to avoid getting tangled in
the chains."
Numerous pit bulls were cited in the statement as being used in fights,
including one dog named Jane who traveled with Vick and his co-defendents
into other states (including Maryland and North Carolina) for various
dogfights at which large sums of money were wagered:


a.. "In or about late 2003, Peace, Phillips Taylor, and another individual
known to the grand jury traveled from Virginia to New Jersey with a female
pit bull named 'Jane' to participate in a dog fight...The purse for the dog
fight was established at approximately $5,000 per side, for a total of
approximately $10,000."


b.. "In or about late 2003, Peace, Phillips, Taylor, and Vick traveled
from Atlanta, Georgia to South Carolina with a male pit bull named 'Big Boy'
to participate in a dog fight...The purse for the dog fight was established
at approximately $3,600 per side, for a total of approximately $7,200."
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