fat burners

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:54:41 +0100, "Pete" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote:

>"Tom Anderson" <twic RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> schreef:
>
>>> Although i have to admit that i witnessed freaky weight loss in women
>>> using Ionamin, and i am positve its not just the supression of appetite.
>>> There must be some other factors as well.
>
>> Can't find anything in the literature about that, but haven't looked that
>> hard.
>
>The only thing i can find is appetite suprression and/or increased
>temperature.
>
>But that stuff works amazing. Perhaps a little too good.
>
>> If you want serious fat burning, i can reccommend 2,4-dinitrophenol. So
>> effective, they banned it in 1938! Best to use it in winter, though, and
>> it'll save you a fortune in jumpers and heating bills.
>
>DNP ?!?!?! Also used as a pesticide?

Cool! So if I use it, I won't need "Off!" when hiking?


How about usnic acid? Isn't that a more mild uncoupler?
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Bully wrote:

> In news:45dae181$0$84073$dbd4b001@news.wanadoo.nl,
> Pete <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> typed:
>> "Tom Anderson" <twic RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> schreef:
>>
>>>> Although i have to admit that i witnessed freaky weight loss in
>>>> women using Ionamin, and i am positve its not just the supression
>>>> of appetite. There must be some other factors as well.
>>
>>> If you want serious fat burning, i can reccommend 2,4-dinitrophenol.
>>> So effective, they banned it in 1938! Best to use it in winter,
>>> though, and it'll save you a fortune in jumpers and heating bills.
>>
>> DNP ?!?!?! Also used as a pesticide?
>>
>> No thanks!
>>
>> Nasty stuff, wouldnt touch that if they gave it for frree.
>>
>> I believe Lyle did a little experiment with it.
>
> Wasn't it Anthony Roberts? http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1035803 !

Wow. That is a chronicle of impressively retarded behaviour.

I'm not seriously advocating DNP - although it most definitely does work -
but if i was, i'd suggesting starting with a low dose, pretty much
homeopathic, then increasing it until you started to get effects, and
stopping at a level which you were comfortable with, from a personal and
literature point of view. I certainly wouldn't go in at a dose that's half
the lethal dose and then increase it.

tom

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In article <45dae181$0$84073$dbd4b001@news.wanadoo.nl>, "Pete"
<phoutstra.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> "Tom Anderson" <twic.RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> schreef:
>
> >> Although i have to admit that i witnessed freaky weight loss in women
> >> using Ionamin, and i am positve its not just the supression of appetite.
> >> There must be some other factors as well.
>
> > Can't find anything in the literature about that, but haven't looked that
> > hard.
>
> The only thing i can find is appetite suprression and/or increased
> temperature.
>
> But that stuff works amazing. Perhaps a little too good.
>
> > If you want serious fat burning, i can reccommend 2,4-dinitrophenol. So
> > effective, they banned it in 1938! Best to use it in winter, though, and
> > it'll save you a fortune in jumpers and heating bills.
>
> DNP ?!?!?! Also used as a pesticide?

Dieting by bug spray as I like to call it...

--
Will @ www.BrinkZone.com

"It twas ever thus " - Mr Natural
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I don't drink alchohol, never have, i have had maybe three beers in my
entire life.

Thanks

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:17:28 -0800, Sir Jackery
<roehrig RemoveThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, onetruehealth wrote:
>
>> Here are the 6 most effective ways to lose fat on your belly without
>> taking fat burners.
>> 1. Remove as many of your large stressors as possible. When you are
>> under stress your body does not burn fat. When you are angry, upset
>> and agitated with yourself or others your body reacts and deals with
>> the situation, the flight or fight response. When this happens your
>> body can not use its energy to burn fat as it is taking care of your
>> stressors.
>> 2. Sleep between 10pm and 6am. Miss any of that time and you throw
>> your hormones out of wack. Your circadian health greatly effects your
>> stress levels (see Secret # 1)
>> 3. Eat foods that are in their original form, without processing.
>> That means removing bread, sugar, and pasta. It also means trying to
>> eliminate chemicals, antibiotics, heavy metals, and hormones from your
>> foods. Eat free range and organic! Otherwise, you are adding
>> stressors to your digestive system.....and we know from secret # 1
>> that when your body has too many stressors, it says "Oops, I don't
>> have the ability right now to worry about dropping my bodyfat stores."
>> 4. Drink liquids in their original form, not processed.
>> Unfortunately, you are left with bottled spring water, or freshly
>> squeezed juices that are not stored with excess sugars and
>> preservatives and that are NOT pasteurized, which destroys all active
>> nutrients. (See secret # 1 to see what happens when your body must
>> handle too many stressors in your liquids).
>
>Just because you don't understand science doesn't mean it's witchcraft.
>Processing food can make it more nutritious, tastier, and safer to eat.
>People live longer healthier lives as technology developes.
>
>And technically aren't food preservatives homeopathic? These hippies
>contradict themselves so frequently.
>
>That said... Do you have excess fat deposited around your mid-section? If
>you drink a lot this could be from cirrhosis of the liver (what people
>call a "beer belly"). When one's liver starts to fail one gets ascites, or
>fluid buildup in the abdomen.
>
>
>
>--Sir Jackery
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, vasicrj RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> this has all been informative;
>
> So, if I don't want to use fat burners, what is a good way to reduce
> body fat percent? I workout but don't do aerobics, I suppose I need
> to add running or something, but I hate to run, and so probably wont.


When I need to cut fat I cut calories. And like Omelet said, maintain an
active lifestyle! You won't need to run on the hamster wheel.

--Sir Jackery
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this has all been informative;

So, if I don't want to use fat burners, what is a good way to reduce
body fat percent? I workout but don't do aerobics, I suppose I need
to add running or something, but I hate to run, and so probably wont.
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<vasicrj.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> this has all been informative;
>
> So, if I don't want to use fat burners, what is a good way to reduce
> body fat percent? I workout but don't do aerobics, I suppose I need
> to add running or something, but I hate to run, and so probably wont.

A lot of people mix weights and traditional cardio, seem to work for
them. I prefer strength training plus strength/endurance training - no
need for traditional cardio at least for me. My resting pulse is in the
40's, about the same as when I was a 20+ miles a week runner.

-S-
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