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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:16 pm
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, J. Gleixner wrote:
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article <VM8rh.3541$Oe2.153@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
>>> "Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl DeleteThis @yahoo.BiteMeSpammer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam DeleteThis @qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:45ad14ec$0$503$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>>> David Cohen recommended this one sometime back:
>>>>>
>>>>> What does this have to do with fitness?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear.
>>>
>>> Chill dude.
>>>
>>> This is mfw.
>>
>> To clarify: here, as the group title indicates, we are primarily about
>> miscellany, secondarily about fitness, and lastly about weights.
>
> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should have
> some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to fitness. The
> topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
Good god! You must be some sort of rocket scientist or something. This
stuff is way over my head.
Sadly, your analysis, whilst logical and compelling, is wrong - you are
taking an essentially prescriptivist line, assuming that the nature of the
newsgroup should follow its name, and that any deviation from this, such
as you have so astutely observed here, is evil and bad and, dare i say it,
wrong. The simple truth is that names are not special; they have no
magical power or moral authority, no imprimatur to give, they are simply
labels applied to objects. The nature of the object does not follow from
the name, any more than the nature of a person or street does. That the
object in question here, a newsgroup frequented by a stew of strange and
unsavoury characters and used for discussion of guns, dogs, unsettling
pornography, one another's acts and qualities, weightlifting, politics,
films, recipes, comics and other nonsense, goes by a somewhat
inappropriate name is perhaps unhelpful, but, as you will learn once
you've used the internet for more than four or five minutes, really quite
normal and nothing to worry about.
tom
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:16 pm
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"Tom Anderson" <twic DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, J. Gleixner wrote:
>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Omelet wrote:
>>>> "Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl DeleteThis @yahoo.BiteMeSpammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam DeleteThis @qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>>>> David Cohen recommended this one sometime back:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does this have to do with fitness?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear.
>>>>
>>>> Chill dude.
>>>>
>>>> This is mfw.
>>>
>>> To clarify: here, as the group title indicates, we are primarily about
>>> miscellany, secondarily about fitness, and lastly about weights.
>>
>> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
>> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should have
>> some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to fitness. The
>> topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
>
> Good god! You must be some sort of rocket scientist or something. This
> stuff is way over my head.
>
> Sadly, your analysis, whilst logical and compelling, is wrong - you are
> taking an essentially prescriptivist line, assuming that the nature of the
> newsgroup should follow its name, and that any deviation from this, such
> as you have so astutely observed here, is evil and bad and, dare i say it,
> wrong. The simple truth is that names are not special; they have no
> magical power or moral authority, no imprimatur to give, they are simply
> labels applied to objects. The nature of the object does not follow from
> the name, any more than the nature of a person or street does. That the
> object in question here, a newsgroup frequented by a stew of strange and
> unsavoury characters and used for discussion of guns, dogs, unsettling
> pornography, one another's acts and qualities, weightlifting, politics,
> films, recipes, comics and other nonsense, goes by a somewhat
> inappropriate name is perhaps unhelpful, but, as you will learn once
> you've used the internet for more than four or five minutes, really quite
> normal and nothing to worry about.
Tom, if we change the name of the group to
soc.rec.whineydouchebagsarenotwelcome, maybe he'll go away.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:16 pm
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ederh.11815$w91.2889@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Tom Anderson" <twic DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, J. Gleixner wrote:
>>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Omelet wrote:
>>>>> "Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl DeleteThis @yahoo.BiteMeSpammer.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam DeleteThis @qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Cohen recommended this one sometime back:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does this have to do with fitness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chill dude.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is mfw.
>>>>
>>>> To clarify: here, as the group title indicates, we are primarily about
>>>> miscellany, secondarily about fitness, and lastly about weights.
>>>
>>> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
>>> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should have
>>> some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to fitness. The
>>> topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
>>
>> Good god! You must be some sort of rocket scientist or something. This
>> stuff is way over my head.
>>
>> Sadly, your analysis, whilst logical and compelling, is wrong - you are
>> taking an essentially prescriptivist line, assuming that the nature of
>> the newsgroup should follow its name, and that any deviation from this,
>> such as you have so astutely observed here, is evil and bad and, dare i
>> say it, wrong. The simple truth is that names are not special; they have
>> no magical power or moral authority, no imprimatur to give, they are
>> simply labels applied to objects. The nature of the object does not
>> follow from the name, any more than the nature of a person or street
>> does. That the object in question here, a newsgroup frequented by a stew
>> of strange and unsavoury characters and used for discussion of guns,
>> dogs, unsettling pornography, one another's acts and qualities,
>> weightlifting, politics, films, recipes, comics and other nonsense, goes
>> by a somewhat inappropriate name is perhaps unhelpful, but, as you will
>> learn once you've used the internet for more than four or five minutes,
>> really quite normal and nothing to worry about.
>
> Tom, if we change the name of the group to
> soc.rec.whineydouchebagsarenotwelcome, maybe he'll go away.
Or perhaps
alt.guns+dogs+unsettlingpornography+weightlifting+politics+films+recipes+comics?
ep
> David
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:16 pm
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"Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl DeleteThis @yahoo.BiteMeSpammer.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "Tom Anderson" <twic DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, J. Gleixner wrote:
>>>> Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Omelet wrote:
>>>>>> "Edna Pearl" <edna_pearl DeleteThis @yahoo.BiteMeSpammer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam DeleteThis @qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David Cohen recommended this one sometime back:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does this have to do with fitness?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh dear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chill dude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is mfw.
>>>>>
>>>>> To clarify: here, as the group title indicates, we are primarily about
>>>>> miscellany, secondarily about fitness, and lastly about weights.
>>>>
>>>> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
>>>> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should have
>>>> some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to fitness. The
>>>> topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
>>>
>>> Good god! You must be some sort of rocket scientist or something. This
>>> stuff is way over my head.
>>>
>>> Sadly, your analysis, whilst logical and compelling, is wrong - you are
>>> taking an essentially prescriptivist line, assuming that the nature of
>>> the newsgroup should follow its name, and that any deviation from this,
>>> such as you have so astutely observed here, is evil and bad and, dare i
>>> say it, wrong. The simple truth is that names are not special; they have
>>> no magical power or moral authority, no imprimatur to give, they are
>>> simply labels applied to objects. The nature of the object does not
>>> follow from the name, any more than the nature of a person or street
>>> does. That the object in question here, a newsgroup frequented by a stew
>>> of strange and unsavoury characters and used for discussion of guns,
>>> dogs, unsettling pornography, one another's acts and qualities,
>>> weightlifting, politics, films, recipes, comics and other nonsense, goes
>>> by a somewhat inappropriate name is perhaps unhelpful, but, as you will
>>> learn once you've used the internet for more than four or five minutes,
>>> really quite normal and nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Tom, if we change the name of the group to
>> soc.rec.whineydouchebagsarenotwelcome, maybe he'll go away.
>
> Or perhaps
> alt.guns+dogs+unsettlingpornography+weightlifting+politics+films+recipes+comics?
Too restrictive, I think. I may decide to discuss cosmology. Or knives. Or
the superiority of country singing women.
Excluding whiney douchebags is easier.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:28 am
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:36 am
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:44 am
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In article <s0drq295s1se0p0qcsju8nhb9uk5e0isp8 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Shute <Shute RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> There are a few hierarchy groups
> which are still modified.
You misspelled "moderated".
> The rest exist in total anarchy where
> anything goes.
Where?
I don't know of any groups like that!
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:15 am
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"J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam RemoveThis @qwest-spam-no.invalid> schreef:
>> David Cohen recommended this one sometime back:
> What does this have to do with fitness?
Its a good static hold for the front/medial dets. The bigger the gun, the
bigger the bullet and the longer the barrel, the better.
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"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 am
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"Omelet" <omp_omelet.DeleteThis@gmail.com> schreef:
> Wrong sir.
> Marksmanship is actually an Olympic competition. So is weightlifting.
> Bodybuilding isn't and probably never will be.
Excuse me?
EXCUSE ME ?!?!?!
Shooting Grizzlys is NOT going to be an Olympic event?
>> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
>> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should
>> have some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to
>> fitness. The topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
> And you don't think that weight lifting and arm/hand strength can
> contribute to shooting skills?
I actually did extra fore-arm work when i ordered my gun. I really did.
And it helped. I have more control and a LOT less recoil than most people.
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"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 am
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In article <45adff7e$0$59854$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
"Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\)" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> "Omelet" <omp_omelet RemoveThis @gmail.com> schreef:
>
> > Wrong sir.
> > Marksmanship is actually an Olympic competition. So is weightlifting.
>
> > Bodybuilding isn't and probably never will be.
>
> Excuse me?
>
> EXCUSE ME ?!?!?!
>
> Shooting Grizzlys is NOT going to be an Olympic event?
>
> >> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
> >> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should
> >> have some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to
> >> fitness. The topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
>
> > And you don't think that weight lifting and arm/hand strength can
> > contribute to shooting skills?
>
> I actually did extra fore-arm work when i ordered my gun. I really did.
> And it helped. I have more control and a LOT less recoil than most people.
>
> --
> Pete, The New & Improved Version
It's why (I suspect) Cohen called me a wuss over my double tap comment.
Extra forearm work is in the plans...... but so is gripping it correctly.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> schreef:
>> Or perhaps
>> alt.guns+dogs+unsettlingpornography+weightlifting+politics+films+recipes+comics?
> Too restrictive, I think. I may decide to discuss cosmology. Or knives.
> Or the superiority of country singing women.
What about;
misc.realmenlovebiggunssincethesmalleronesareforsissysandfatblackassesandareabitpsychoticandlivebelowsealevel.weights.
Never mind.
I post here anyway.
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"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 am
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"Shute" <Shute RemoveThis @nowhere.com> schreef:
> Hmm, do I see a trend here.
Me too!
> All those are women's things except for
> the knives.
These weighlifting types are bunch of homosexuals!
>I take it you just threw that in so no one would notice
> you in the closet there. You can come out know David. We don't mind
> if you want to talk about tampons and water retention.
Water retention is not so bad.
Whats BAD are those cute little, nice and shiny guns, caliber .177. THATS
bad!
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"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:57 am
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In news:s0drq295s1se0p0qcsju8nhb9uk5e0isp8@4ax.com,
Shute <Shute.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> typed:
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:27:57 +0000, Tom Anderson
> <twic.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, J. Gleixner wrote:
>>> No, the specific topic is weights, as it pertains to fitness, in a
>>> general category of miscellaneous. In other words, the post should
>>> have some relation to weights/weight lifting, as it relates to
>>> fitness. The topic becomes more specific at each '.', left to right.
>>
>> Good god! You must be some sort of rocket scientist or something.
>> This stuff is way over my head.
>
> Not really that hard to understand. When you categorize something
> you are going to start with the most general topic and then work to
> something more specific. It certainly makes sense to me.
> Unfortunately the whole concept of Usenet is chaotic and doesn't fit
> in any world which makes sense. There are a few hierarchy groups
> which are still modified. The rest exist in total anarchy where
> anything goes.
Shute, you obviously have a very blinkered or sanitised view of the world at
large.
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