Bulking diet in five words or less?

In article <459fb6b7$0$70836$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
"Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\)" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> > On a further note, how will fibre help in a bulking diet?
>
> I doesnt.
>
> I recommend fiber when people want to lose weight. You, lots of space
> occupied in the stomach without much carbs. High quality carbs ;-O

I'd not go quite that far...
Efficient and proper digestion of carb foods can be aided by the correct
amount of fiber.

An efficient digestive system is what you want to achieve.

Believe it or not, proper water intake is also very helpful.

>
> But when it comes to food and diet, i actually should shut up gracefully,
> and dont give recommendations
> And i wont.
>
> --
> Pete,

I try based on what I know but will never claim to be an expert.
But I don't mind being contradicted. If someone has a differing concept
that they can back up with appropriate references, I chalk it up to
personal education.

Most people just post links. A clogged up intestine will prevent you
from absorbing the proper nutrients. Fiber helps to keep it clean so
fiber is just as important for gaining weight as losing it.

Not a bad idea for URL's.
Let's see what we can find:


http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:gGGYRsaFQUMJ:www.snac.ucla.edu/pages/
Resources/Handouts/HOWtGain.pdf+how+to+gain+weight&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd
=2

Or:

http://tinyurl.com/y45mwk

Note that pretty much most of those foods are high carb...
and high fiber.

Clean intestines absorb nutrients better.
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On 5 Jan 2007 23:36:31 -0800, "joanne" <jgrrl2 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>On Jan 5, 8:36 pm, Brian Link <b... RemoveThis @visi.com> wrote:
>> but wonder if any of you might have other simple formulae that a dilletante like me (or newbies
>> to the group) could take advantage of.
>
>Five words or less?
>
>"quality dense carbs high fiber"
>
>
>
>joanne

By dense carbs, are you talking about carbs with a high Glycemic
Index?

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joanne wrote:
> On Jan 6, 6:54 am, "Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\)"
> <phouts....DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>> Dense and high fiber are contradictive. Its either high fiber or
>> calric dense. Never both.
>> Even i know that, and i dont know anything about nutrition.
>
> And btw 'dense' carbs are carbs that do not break down into blood
> sugars very fast .. you know like eating oatmeal compared to candy
> floss .. and 'quality' carbs are what we know we should be eating but
> dont like vegetables, fruits and whole grains over cakes, donuts,
> candies, and icecream. If you cant understand the difference then you
> should take Nutrition 101.

YOU invent your own terminology and then suggest it's someone else's fault
for not understanding WTF you are talking about.

Try looking up simple/complex carbs and take it from there eh?

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Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) wrote:
> "joanne" <jgrrl2.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
>> Five words or less?
>
>> "quality dense carbs high fiber"
>
> Dense and high fiber are contradictive. Its either high fiber or
> calric dense. Never both.
>
> Even i know that, and i dont know anything about nutrition.

Maybe not, but you still know more than joanne.

>
> Aside from the fact that fast food gives best results when its
> consumede fast.
>
> And thats a FACT!



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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:13:01 -0500, "ATP*" <waxwingslain RemoveThis @azurepane.com>
wrote:

>
>"Brian Link" <blink RemoveThis @visi.com> wrote in message
>news:qd9up2lfbk2bl0qeq6d89n43qb5fo5s1nr@4ax.com...
>> The last year has been a setback for me, for multiple reasons
>> including health, work and injuries. I'm now back to about 180 @ 20%
>> bodyfat, down from 210 @ 10% bodyfat a couple years ago.
>>
>> I've had the most success in this situation with simple formulas -
>> quit fast food, stop using fatty condiments and sauces, increase the
>> protein a ton. I'm starting this up again, but wonder if any of you
>> might have other simple formulae that a dilletante like me (or newbies
>> to the group) could take advantage of.
>>
>> The powerlifter answer to my subject might be "Eat Everything You
>> See", but I'm looking for aesthetics right now, not raw strength.
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas. Even humorous snark.
>>
>> BLink
>> --------------------------
>
>Why would you want to start a bulking diet at 20% BF?
>

In the past, it's been a lot easier for me to take off fat during the
course of a lifting regimen than it's been to put on muscle.

My first run at "body retrieval" had me losing fat and gaining lean
mass for the first couple months.

At this weight and BF, I'm mostly concerned that I've lost so much
lean mass, it's a priority to get it back. I know the advantages of
more lean mass affecting metabolism are overrated, but for some reason
with my genes it seems to be the case. The fat will take care of
itself once I'm back at the gym 3 or 4 times a week and paying
attention to what I eat (ie, no more late-night runs to KFC).

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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Edna Pearl wrote:

> "Brian Link" <blink RemoveThis @visi.com> wrote in message
> news:qd9up2lfbk2bl0qeq6d89n43qb5fo5s1nr@4ax.com...
>
>> simple formulae that a dilletante like me (or newbies to the group)
>> could take advantage of.

MILK AND SQUATS.

Sorry, took me a while to wade through this thread!

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Shute wrote:

[...]

How big do YOU want to get Shute?

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Brian Link wrote:
> On 5 Jan 2007 23:36:31 -0800, "joanne" <jgrrl2.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 8:36 pm, Brian Link <b....RemoveThis@visi.com> wrote:
>>> but wonder if any of you might have other simple formulae that a
>>> dilletante like me (or newbies to the group) could take advantage
>>> of.
>>
>> Five words or less?
>>
>> "quality dense carbs high fiber"
>>
>>
>>
>> joanne
>
> By dense carbs, are you talking about carbs with a high Glycemic
> Index?

Or a low GI?

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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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Shute wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:36:06 -0600, Brian Link <blink DeleteThis @visi.com> wrote:
>
>> The last year has been a setback for me, for multiple reasons
>> including health, work and injuries. I'm now back to about 180 @ 20%
>> bodyfat, down from 210 @ 10% bodyfat a couple years ago.
>>
>> I've had the most success in this situation with simple formulas -
>> quit fast food, stop using fatty condiments and sauces, increase the
>> protein a ton. I'm starting this up again, but wonder if any of you
>> might have other simple formulae that a dilletante like me (or
>> newbies to the group) could take advantage of.
>>
>> The powerlifter answer to my subject might be "Eat Everything You
>> See", but I'm looking for aesthetics right now, not raw strength.
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas. Even humorous snark.
>>
>> BLink
>> --------------------------
>> "The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]"
>
> "Lift run eat rest repeat"

Run, for bulking? Really?

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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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"joanne" <jgrrl2 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> schreef:

>> Dense and high fiber are contradictive. Its either high fiber or calric
>> dense. Never both.
>> Even i know that, and i dont know anything about nutrition.

> Just a few examples ..foods CAN have a higher caloric value and be
> considered high fiber at the same time ..

Still, the foods that are the most caloric dense, or the ones that contains
the most carbs per 100 gram, dont have much fiber. The fibers occupy space
and weight. Not that i am saying thats a bad thing.

> And btw 'dense' carbs are carbs that do not break down into blood
> sugars very fast ..

Dense?

You mean "complex," long chained.

> you know like eating oatmeal compared to candy
> floss .. and 'quality' carbs are what we know we should be eating but
> dont like vegetables, fruits and whole grains over cakes, donuts,
> candies, and icecream.

You mean quality *foods.*

> If you cant understand the difference then you
> should take Nutrition 101.

Maybe i should.

One is never too old to learn.

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