I've got a month and a half to burn some fat

David Cohen <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

><6tc1.DeleteThis@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote

[...]

>You DO understand that the human body can burn it's own body fat for
>energy, right? I know

Suspect? Obviously. Know? No.

>Curt is clueless in this, and most other, regards, but

[...]

Whatever.

>> I'm willing to sacrifice tons of personal things, but my job takes priority.
>
>Your job is safe.

You can't make that judgment without knowing what his job is, imo. He,
afaik, hasn't specifically stated why he's unable to ditch the
calories as recommended.

Maybe... he's a food taster by profession.

Like maybe you're a dick, Cohen.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
><6tc1.RemoveThis@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote
>>I just don't know what to say to that.
>
>"Eureka! I've seen the light. The check's in the mail."
>
>> I would like to lose weight,
>> but I can't afford to lose my job. I guess due to the nature of my job
>> I can only make changes that won't impact my job - or more specifically
>> my job performance.
>
>You DO understand that the human body can burn it's own body fat for energy,
>right? I know Curt is clueless in this, and most other, regards, but I have
>more hope for you. It would take a day or two to adjust to a PSMF. In other
>words, the weekend.
>
>I don't know what your job is, but I am required to make complex decisions,
>routinely, of a life and death nature, as well as perform fine motor and
>gross motor activities. I have no problems doing this on a PSMF. In
>addition, I have engaged in strenuous physical activity on a PSMF without
>problem.
>
>> I'm honestly sorry if you feel I ignored your advice - I really do want
>> to lose the weight and I'm willing to sacrifice tons of personal
>> things, but my job takes priority.
>
>Your job is safe.
>
>> Anyway, I'll try to cut the calories - but 1000 calories is just not
>> possible for me without serious ramifications at work.
>
>You will be utilizing 1000 calories of INGESTED food, and a nearly
>inexhaustable supply of calories from body fat.

You have been around this newgroup long enough to know that there will
always be those who will take any drug/supplement and/or try any
exercise program, but under no conditions will they do anything about
their diet. I suspect this is one.

I have seen such fat guys at the gym for years. They come a couple of
times every week and spend an hour on the treadmill, until they are
soaked with sweat, but they never lose a pound. And they will come up
with any rationalization imaginable as to why they can't regulate
their diet.

Unless this guy is a sumo wrestler, I don't see a PSMF affecting his
job.
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>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><6tc1 DeleteThis @qlink.queensu.ca> wrote
>>>I just don't know what to say to that.
>>
>>"Eureka! I've seen the light. The check's in the mail."
>>
>>> I would like to lose weight,
>>> but I can't afford to lose my job. I guess due to the nature of my job
>>> I can only make changes that won't impact my job - or more specifically
>>> my job performance.
>>
>>You DO understand that the human body can burn it's own body fat for energy,
>>right? I know Curt is clueless in this ...

Note to the OP: I didn't understand Cohen's reference to Curt because
I have the moron killfiled, so I checked Google. Curt is a
perpetually skinny elementary school art teacher. When it comes to
knowledge of efficient and effective fat loss, Curt couldn't find his
ass with both hands. Perhaps it's time for a repost of this one:

This is Curt: http://tinyurl.com/z2d2y


This is Curt on weights: http://www.rustyiron.net/curtpics.htm


Any questions?

--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net
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JMW <jmwilliams DeleteThis @enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

[...]

>Unless this guy is a sumo wrestler, I don't see a PSMF
>affecting his job.

Is your POSSLQ familiar with a PSMF?

You're something. He stated his stats. He benches more than you and he
can do more pullups than you and yet you find yourself ranting about
guys who show up in the gym, spend a few minutes on the treadmill,
sweat profusely, and leave while showing no progress. What did that
example have to do with the OP? Nada.

Guess you're also a fan of the Pertinence SMF.

Schmuck.

Someone please quote this so Schmuckly doesn't have to /wait/ until he
stumbles across it while /just-by-chance/ using Google groups. D'OH!

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
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<6tc1 RemoveThis @qlink.queensu.ca> wrote in message
news:1144611436.755877.261640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm not actually sure what the intention of your post is, but just so
> people are clear, the person whose post I'm responding to does not
> represent me. Anyone else can get this information (the header of the
> message), but just for clarity, here is his/her header:

Not to worry. Billy's our retarded boy with some behavioral disorders. We're
used to him but he tends to act out when we have new visitors that are
getting too much attention. Sorry.
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<6tc1.TakeThisOut@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote
> Fair enough... well, I guess this is one I'll have to agree to
> disagree. I think one point we can agree on is that I can get a lot of
> effect from adjusting my diet. And I'll do my best to do so.
>
> I'm not a food taster
>
>
> My job is fairly strenuous and also as I mentioned almost my top
> priority (beneath friends and family).
>
> Anyway, I'll do my best to "digest" this advice and follow it as
> rigourously as I can. I think one thing I can quickly benefit from is
> to reduce my portions at each sitting and make them more protein heavy.
>
> Sound like a good compromise?

The fastest healthy ways to lose weight, and fat, are, in order:
1) liposuction
2) PSMF
3) everything else

You have chosen #3. That's OK. It doesn't make you a bad person.

Your original question was: "Could anyone else lend me some advice on how to
make the most effective
use of my time before the camping trip?"

I gave you the answer. What you do with it is your business.

If you're gonna' stick around, you also need to recognize the trolls. We
have a lot of them right now. Curt is one, but to his credit, sometimes
doesn't troll and usually posts under his own name. The other, primary, one
virtually never posts under his own name, and will often post under other
posters' names. He's fairly easy to recognize, and easy to ignore.

David
 >> Stay informed about: I've got a month and a half to burn some fat 

6tc1.RemoveThis@qlink.queensu.ca wrote:
> Fair enough... well, I guess this is one I'll have to agree to
> disagree. I think one point we can agree on is that I can get a lot of
> effect from adjusting my diet. And I'll do my best to do so.
>
> I'm not a food taster
>
>
> My job is fairly strenuous and also as I mentioned almost my top
> priority (beneath friends and family).

What do you do more specifically? I don't eat during the day at all,
although my job is to sit at the desk and wonder about irrelevancies
(it is still quite demanding).

> Anyway, I'll do my best to "digest" this advice and follow it as
> rigourously as I can. I think one thing I can quickly benefit from is
> to reduce my portions at each sitting and make them more protein heavy.

You can also try to eat as infrequently as you can handle, optimally
right after your workout. This works for me. There is good evidence
that this is healthier than lots of small meals. Try
"mattson mp"[Author] AND "intermittent fasting"
on PubMed, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

BTW I can do more pullups than you in a set but my bf is a lot less,
below 7%. You can also join our 2006 "pullup challenge"
(http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/e790c9795d69f07a)
I can assure you that in this particular exercise you can make
progress while losing weight even if you're not a beginner.

Next hour, I'm going to do 5 pullup sets of 3 reps with the added
120 lb. (Eat your heart out, Steve)
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DZ <5427.TakeThisOut@993229604.161947395.336.24650.18589> wrote:
>Ranieri wrote:
>> JMW wrote:
>>> Ranieri wrote:
>>>> 6tc1.TakeThisOut@qlink.queensu.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I currently bench 275 pounds for 6 reps, flat bar (45 pounds) with 50
>>>>> pounds for bicep curls, 30 reps for pull-ups, 225 for 8 reps for bent
>>>>> over rows with a regular flat bar (not against a corner). I give this
>>>>> information just to give an impression of my level of weightlifting
>>>>> ability. I can also jog for 6 miles without any difficulty (outside)
>>>>> in about 50-55 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>30 pullups at 25% bodyfat is quite a feat.
>>>
>>> Agreed. That one is suspicious. I'd like to see DZ weigh in on that
>>> one.
>>
>> Maybe he's a member of the 330 bench / 135 lb squat club. Think apple on
>> toothpicks.
>
>Usually, it would still need to be a relatively lean "apple on
>toothpicks". But there is so much variation in abilities, you never
>know. Personally, I've never seen a visibly overweight person doing
>many pullups.

My observations are the same.

Naturally, I have read Admiral Hadov's tales of fabulous pullup feats,
but I place him in the same category as Baron von Munchausen.
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On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:28:08 -0700, "Larry Hodges"
<2larry2 DeleteThis @2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>"John Hanson" <jhanson DeleteThis @northernlinks.com> wrote in message
>news:070i32pft55r3aevrr171ssimn2sngcoj5@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 02:27:31 -0700, "Larry Hodges"
>> <2larry2 DeleteThis @2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>>>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Ap2_f.2185$Es3.672@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "JMW" <jmwilliams DeleteThis @enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote
>>>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>><6tc1 DeleteThis @qlink.queensu.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1144540362.311033.212720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Hi all, I've been weightlifting for just over 10 years now. I've
>>>>>>> gone
>>>>>>> through obsessed and casual stages in that time, but have usually
>>>>>>> maintained a decent balance of weights, cardio and just general
>>>>>>> fitness
>>>>>>> activities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I currently bench 275 pounds for 6 reps, flat bar (45 pounds) with 50
>>>>>>> pounds for bicep curls, 30 reps for pull-ups, 225 for 8 reps for bent
>>>>>>> over rows with a regular flat bar (not against a corner). I give
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> information just to give an impression of my level of weightlifting
>>>>>>> ability. I can also jog for 6 miles without any difficulty (outside)
>>>>>>> in about 50-55 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I generally consider myself in good condition. However, today I went
>>>>>>> to a gym and got a fitness assessment and using those scales with
>>>>>>> metal
>>>>>>> contacts (which aren't the most accurate measurements in the world I
>>>>>>> acknowledge) found out that I have 25% fat. I suspected it was close
>>>>>>> to 20%... but a quarter of my body weight seems a tad high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, long story short it gave me cause for thought, so my buddy
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I went to a supplement place and I picked up Nutrex Lipo 6. I'm
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to take one pill in the morning and one at lunch. I'm also going to
>>>>>>> try to stop eating 2 hours before I go to bed and perhaps up my
>>>>>>> cardio
>>>>>>> a tad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the subject of the posting - I'm going on a May 2-4 (May
>>>>>>> 19-22)
>>>>>>> camping trip with some old friends of mine and I would like to trim
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> because these guys are in great shape (fat wise) and like to rag on
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> for that stuff... it is all in good humour, but I would like to
>>>>>>> impress
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could anyone else lend me some advice on how to make the most
>>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>> use of my time before the camping trip?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Novice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The fastest way to lose the most weight, and fat, in the shortest
>>>>>>period
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>time, besides liposuction, is a Protein Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://rapidfatloss.lylemcdonald.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Available as an ebook, if you want it real fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An unsolicited endorsement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Y'mean like the one on that web page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuggin' brown-noser.
>>>>
>>>> And I don't even get a percentage, just more scorn and abuse
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>
>>>I'm down 7 lbs since May 20th. Didn't really plan to drop that much
>>>weight
>>>so soon, but I quit my run drinking and kept my diet around 2,400 per day.
>>>Down to 191 now. 2.5lbs per week. I need to eat more...
>>>
>>
>> I assume you mean March.
>
>Yep...sorry. I was thinking ahead, which makes me a progressive thinker.
>
>>I was 226 this morning. Today starts my 2nd
>> week of weight loss. I did get to 224.8 last Tuesday but I put some
>> weight back on. The weight is trending downward nicely and I should
>> have no problem making weight next month. Let's just hope my back
>> heals up (yep, popped the ribs out again).
>
>What's your goal weight? And how did you pop out your ribs?
>
100.0 kilos or slightly less at noon on May 6, 2006. I popped them
out squatting in a suit with straps up with only 455 pounds on my
back. I should have left the straps down with such a light
(relatively anyway) weight.
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:14:40 -0400, Curt James <cwj111 RemoveThis @psu.edu> wrote:

>JMW <jmwilliams RemoveThis @enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>Unless this guy is a sumo wrestler, I don't see a PSMF
>>affecting his job.
>
>Is your POSSLQ familiar with a PSMF?
>
>You're something. He stated his stats. He benches more than you and he
>can do more pullups than you and yet you find yourself ranting about
>guys who show up in the gym, spend a few minutes on the treadmill,
>sweat profusely, and leave while showing no progress. What did that
>example have to do with the OP? Nada.
>
>Guess you're also a fan of the Pertinence SMF.
>
>Schmuck.
>
>Someone please quote this so Schmuckly doesn't have to /wait/ until he
>stumbles across it while /just-by-chance/ using Google groups. D'OH!
>

Forwarded for JMW's attention as requested, unless of course he also
allegedly has me "killfiled"! ;o)
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"DZ" <5427.RemoveThis@993229604.161947395.336.24650.18589> wrote in message
news:10531@1454419895.474218589.29561.4294.19820...
> Ranieri wrote:
>> JMW wrote:
>>> Ranieri wrote:
>>>> 6tc1.RemoveThis@qlink.queensu.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I currently bench 275 pounds for 6 reps, flat bar (45 pounds) with
>>>>> 50
>>>>> pounds for bicep curls, 30 reps for pull-ups, 225 for 8 reps for
>>>>> bent
>>>>> over rows with a regular flat bar (not against a corner). I give
>>>>> this
>>>>> information just to give an impression of my level of
>>>>> weightlifting
>>>>> ability. I can also jog for 6 miles without any difficulty
>>>>> (outside)
>>>>> in about 50-55 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>30 pullups at 25% bodyfat is quite a feat.
>>>
>>> Agreed. That one is suspicious. I'd like to see DZ weigh in on
>>> that
>>> one.
>>
>> Maybe he's a member of the 330 bench / 135 lb squat club. Think apple
>> on
>> toothpicks.
>
> Usually, it would still need to be a relatively lean "apple on
> toothpicks". But there is so much variation in abilities, you never
> know. Personally, I've never seen a visibly overweight person doing
> many pullups.

There's a guy who posts on DragonDoor and co-authored one article on
one-armed chinups. I believe he weighed 100 kg (220 lbs.) and could do
a one-armed chin. He is, as they say, the exception that proves the
rule.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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