After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven..

"Angela" <angela RemoveThis @CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote
>> According the WW, I'm just fine
>
> According to the CDC you are, too. Given the choice between taking the
> word of an etiquette-challenged stranger on the internet or a medical
> authority that boasts at least of couple of degrees on staff, I'm pretty
> clear the direction I'm going.

Do your fat, chubby, fingers prevent you from deleting MFW from the
crossposting? Or is masochism a necessary companion to lack of self-esteem?

David
etiquette-challenged stranger
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Angela" <angela.RemoveThis@CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
>> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote
>>> According the WW, I'm just fine
>>
>> According to the CDC you are, too. Given the choice between taking the
>> word of an etiquette-challenged stranger on the internet or a medical
>> authority that boasts at least of couple of degrees on staff, I'm pretty
>> clear the direction I'm going.
>
> Do your fat, chubby, fingers prevent you from deleting MFW from the
> crossposting? Or is masochism a necessary companion to lack of
> self-esteem?
>
> David
> etiquette-challenged stranger
>
If it is any consolation to you David, I don't think of you as an
etiquette-challenged stranger.

I think of you as a shrill, gun-crazed, voice of reason from the desert.
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

In article <ne14c1tunbkca9rm6ommfu37ed538ou4gp.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:

> Quoting Sarah Wethered:
> >"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.DeleteThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
> >news:juv1c1pb6grchff65oq4dj84mslbtc29qg@4ax.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
> >> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
> >> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
> >> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
> >> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
> >> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
> >> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
> >> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
> >
> >I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
> >below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
> >you lost all that weight.
>
> 100# might be just a tad low for a 5' 1" small-framed female, but
> likely not by much. There would still be something left of her.

Yes, we call them bones.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Angela" <angela RemoveThis @CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
>> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote
>>> According the WW, I'm just fine
>>
>> According to the CDC you are, too. Given the choice between taking the
>> word of an etiquette-challenged stranger on the internet or a medical
>> authority that boasts at least of couple of degrees on staff, I'm pretty
>> clear the direction I'm going.
>
> Do your fat, chubby, fingers prevent you from deleting MFW from the
> crossposting? Or is masochism a necessary companion to lack of
> self-esteem?

I fear I shall disappoint you, but I'm pretty good at not taking offense.
The opinions of an etiquette-challenged stranger are meaningless to me.

One might wonder about the self-esteem of somebody who takes pot-shots at
strangers, though. If one cared.

Angela
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

Cut out the carbs, decrease the weight training increase the cardio, and
stop looking at the scale!

Last but not least honey - measure yourself!
Keep track using a diary


"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BM7we.10350$jX6.7460@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.RemoveThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
>> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
>> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
>> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
>> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
>> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
>> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
>> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
>
> 1) You have underestimated what you ate. Or...
> 2) You have overestimated what you expended. Or...
> 3) Your scale is inaccurate. Or...
> 4) You lost fat and gained muscle, which balanced each other out. Or...
> 5) The Laws of Thermodynamics do not apply to you in your Universe.
>
> David
>
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

In article <7Cixe.139279$El.121400@pd7tw1no>,
"CCTV" <onehappyindian.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Cut out the carbs,

To what, zero?

> decrease the weight training increase the cardio,

So she can achieve the fat-skinny look?

> and
> stop looking at the scale!

That's actually the best advice so far.

>
> Last but not least honey - measure yourself!
> Keep track using a diary

Measure what? Pant size or actual bodyfat? The former is of little use
compared to the latter.

Over simple advice ("cut the carbs") often creates as many problems as
being over complicated, not to mention cross posts to those groups + mfw
is a flame war waiting to happen...

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

Quoting WillBrink:
>In article <ne14c1tunbkca9rm6ommfu37ed538ou4gp.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Sarah Wethered:
>> >"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.RemoveThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
>> >news:juv1c1pb6grchff65oq4dj84mslbtc29qg@4ax.com...
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
>> >> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
>> >> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
>> >> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
>> >> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
>> >> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
>> >> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
>> >> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
>> >
>> >I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
>> >below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
>> >you lost all that weight.
>>
>> 100# might be just a tad low for a 5' 1" small-framed female, but
>> likely not by much. There would still be something left of her.
>
>Yes, we call them bones.

_You_ might. _I_ may not, depending on build and muscle mass. Hence
my use of 'might' and 'likely'.

For such a diminutive person (very short and fine boned), female,
-and- newbie to WT, 100# just does not seem like much of a stretch to
me.

The female friends and acquaintances I have that are in that range of
height/weight (or close) generally look great. They don't seem to be
bony-looking, anorexic, or unhealthy by any means.
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

"Angela" <angela.TakeThisOut@CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote>>
>> "Angela" <angela.TakeThisOut@CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
>>> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote
>>>> According the WW, I'm just fine
>>>
>>> According to the CDC you are, too. Given the choice between taking the
>>> word of an etiquette-challenged stranger on the internet or a medical
>>> authority that boasts at least of couple of degrees on staff, I'm pretty
>>> clear the direction I'm going.
>>
>> Do your fat, chubby, fingers prevent you from deleting MFW from the
>> crossposting? Or is masochism a necessary companion to lack of
>> self-esteem?
>
> I fear I shall disappoint you, but I'm pretty good at not taking offense.
> The opinions of an etiquette-challenged stranger are meaningless to me.
>
> One might wonder about the self-esteem of somebody who takes pot-shots at
> strangers, though. If one cared.

Oh. Of course. I'm the one with the self-esteem problem. Well, that explains
it. Thanks.

David
etiquette-challenged stranger, with mask and cape, up, up, and AWAY!!
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

David Cohen <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Angela" <angela.DeleteThis@CUTITOUTrmta.org> wrote
> > "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote
> >> According the WW, I'm just fine
> >
> > According to the CDC you are, too. Given the choice between taking the
> > word of an etiquette-challenged stranger on the internet or a medical
> > authority that boasts at least of couple of degrees on staff, I'm pretty
> > clear the direction I'm going.
>
> Do your fat, chubby, fingers prevent you from deleting MFW from the
> crossposting? Or is masochism a necessary companion to lack of self-esteem?

Are those rhetorical questions?
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

In article <0d5cc196dlup0c4vc1gtv1s2hep9uf83ti RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:

> Quoting WillBrink:
> >In article <ne14c1tunbkca9rm6ommfu37ed538ou4gp RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
> > Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:
> >
> >> Quoting Sarah Wethered:
> >> >"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie RemoveThis @NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:juv1c1pb6grchff65oq4dj84mslbtc29qg@4ax.com...
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
> >> >> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
> >> >> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
> >> >> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
> >> >> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
> >> >> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
> >> >> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
> >> >> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
> >> >
> >> >I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
> >> >below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
> >> >you lost all that weight.
> >>
> >> 100# might be just a tad low for a 5' 1" small-framed female, but
> >> likely not by much. There would still be something left of her.
> >
> >Yes, we call them bones.
>
> _You_ might. _I_ may not,

Is there another term for bones I don't know about? Do tell!

>depending on build and muscle mass. Hence
> my use of 'might' and 'likely'.

At under 100lbs at 5'1" there wont be any muscle mass. Duh.

>
> For such a diminutive person (very short and fine boned), female,
> -and- newbie to WT, 100# just does not seem like much of a stretch to
> me.

Sorry to hear it.

>
> The female friends and acquaintances I have that are in that range of
> height/weight (or close) generally look great.

They would generally look skinny as hell. Yes I know many people have
gotten it in their head it's the ideal.

> They don't seem to be
> bony-looking, anorexic, or unhealthy by any means.

Then like most people, your perceptions are warped.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

In article <1119986980.534452.160480.TakeThisOut@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"tessa" <tabyrne00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jeannie,
> I have had similar problems myself. I found though that even though I
> did not lose weight right away, I did lose inches. I think it took
> about 3 weeks before I actually started losing pounds. It is very
> frustrating but we all know that muscle weighs more than fat.

Err, no. Think about what you just said and get back to us. What weighs
more, a lb of lead or a lb of feathers?

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

In article <LWWwe.1840298$6l.1222099@pd7tw2no>,
"Sarah Wethered" <swethered.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> writes:
> According the WW, I'm just fine -- thanks for making my 60 lb weight loss
> insignificant.

Congratulations, Sarah, on your progress (seriously--that's a
*terrific* accomplishment), but...

> Go back under the rock you came from.
[snip]

What's "right" for you, or anybody else, may not be right, or may be
down-right *wrong*, for another. I imagine David's comments, direct
tho they may be, are meant to reflect that.

Btw: Your BMI is 23.4. The CDC says "18.5 to 24.9" is "Normal." So
you may be "fine," in your eyes, and that's... fine , but you're
just under the high end of "Normal," as opposed to being just over
the low end. Some of us strive for "more fine." I'm 6'4" and 195
lbs. atm. According to the CDC's BMI calculator, that's a BMI of
23.7 - close to your's. While I get complements on how much better I
look from friends and acquaintances, I still have a bit of a belly,
the love-handles are just starting to shrink, and my muscle
definition is just starting to show well. So, by my lights, I'm not
"fine" yet.

Please also note that MFW regulars probably *generally* have somewhat
different goals than ASDWM regulars. The differences in the comments
from those in each newsgroup will undoubtedly reflect that.

Oh, and, IIRC, MFW regulars generally feel BMI is a worthless
measure.

Again: Congratulations on your accomplishment. It must feel good. I
know what I've accomplished so far does .

--
Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
jseymour.TakeThisOut@LinxNet.com | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven.. 

I can't resist this one!!!

A lb of lead or a lb of feathers, weigh exactly the same! They are both a
lb no matter what. Now, if you want the volume per square inch, then there
is a difference, but a pound weighs the same whether in sand, bricks, lead
or feathers!

Debbie

"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <1119986980.534452.160480 DeleteThis @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "tessa" <tabyrne00 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeannie,
>> I have had similar problems myself. I found though that even though I
>> did not lose weight right away, I did lose inches. I think it took
>> about 3 weeks before I actually started losing pounds. It is very
>> frustrating but we all know that muscle weighs more than fat.
>
> Err, no. Think about what you just said and get back to us. What weighs
> more, a lb of lead or a lb of feathers?
>
> --
> Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: After two weeks of strict diet and heavy exercise, I haven..