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rchrdcarlisle

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:34 am
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:28:03 -0500, Tayra <spam_me_here RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

>If you're ingesting, say, 900 calories a day, and then burning off 250
>of them.. that's only 650 calories a day you're eating. That's *very*
>unhealthy. Your body won't have enough energy to create muscle, it
>doesn't even have enough to sustain itself. If you weren't exercising
>at all, you might be ok, but as it is, you're starving yourself to
>death. It's no wonder you're not losing weight yet.

Huh?? How is starving yourself to death not resulting in weight loss??


The only way to not lose weight is if calories in are more than
calories spent. Even if your metabolism slows as a result of drastic
caloric deficit it will not slow enough to not cause weight loss if
calories are low enough. Ask any concentration camp victim.

Anyone who completely stops eating and just drinks water to maintain
hydration will lose weight and continue to lose weight until they die.
Anyone who reduces their caloric intake drastically will have the same
thing happen. It will just take longer.

RC

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Sarah Wethered

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:40 am
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Jeannie,

I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
you lost all that weight.

Sarah

"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie DeleteThis @NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
>
> Jeannie

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frank-in-toronto

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:40 am
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:40:12 GMT, "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>Jeannie,
>
>I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
>below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
>you lost all that weight.
it's really not that easy to tell. i know ladies
that weigh 120 pounds, 5 ft 4 that are 28% body fat.
they look skinny but they have a chubby belly.
others, very very few, can weigh the same and be hard-body.
100 seems low, but how can we say without knowing
the person?
....thehick
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:40 am
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Quoting Sarah Wethered:
>"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.TakeThisOut@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
>news:juv1c1pb6grchff65oq4dj84mslbtc29qg@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
>> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
>> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
>> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
>> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
>> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
>> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
>> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
>
>I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
>below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
>you lost all that weight.

100# might be just a tad low for a 5' 1" small-framed female, but
likely not by much. There would still be something left of her.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:47 am
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"Sarah Wethered" <swethered.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote
> Jeannie,
>
> I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs. I'm
> below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you if
> you lost all that weight.

Try not to be offended, but at 5'1" and 127 pounds, you are a tub of lard.

Or, you're not fat, you're just short for your weight.

David
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Jeannie Sanderson

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:07 pm
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Lee Michaels

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:07 pm
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"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.RemoveThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:05:56 -0500, Tayra <spam_me_here.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>David Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote
>>>
>>>>Jeannie,
>>>>
>>>>I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs.
>>>>I'm
>>>>below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you
>>>>if
>>>>you lost all that weight.
>>>
>>>
>>> Try not to be offended, but at 5'1" and 127 pounds, you are a tub of
>>> lard.
>>
>>I stripped misc.fitness.weights off this, cuz I figure that's where the
>>guy's posting from, and I'm not trying to incite trolls.
>>
>>--cuts--
>>-Tay
>
> In any group in life, clubs neighborhoods on the internet or siblings
> etc statements go from uninformed and rediculous to very informed and
> correct. The only bad opinions are those from overly critical people
> and those people that try to stifle other people. There is something
> to learn in most posts even if you do not agree and they are
> crossposted.
>
> Thankyou to everybody for the information.
> Jeannie

You are obviously one of those style over substance folks. So logic won't
work on you. But I could offer up advice that could maim or kill you. And
that would be OK. As long as I was nice.

Some people deserve to be stifled. Because their bad advice can hurt people.
But in your perfect world, nobody ever gets hurt.

What is it like in your extremely sheltered existence?? Do they eever let
you go outside of the wall?
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:02 pm
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This, my lord and ladies, is the voice of wisdom !
--
Will~

"... so that's how liberty ends, in a round of applause."

Queen Amidala, The revenge of the Syth.
"Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox.DeleteThis@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.DeleteThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
> news:juv1c1pb6grchff65oq4dj84mslbtc29qg@4ax.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
> > wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
> > eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
> > all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
> > trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
> > day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
> > exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
> > food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
> >
> > Jeannie
>
>
> Hi Jeannie,
>
> I had pretty much the same experience. You have gotten some very good
> replies, and all made good points. One of the reasons I attribute so
> little loss was because if you diet very very stringently all of a sudden,
> your body thinks it is starving and economizes. You then lower your
> metabolism, and this encourages the "yo yo" syndrome of gaining and losing
> weight over and over, usually escalating your weight over time.
>
> I would suggest forgetting about the scale and work more on establishing a
> pattern of eating and exercising that you can live with for the rest of
your
> life, and ultimately the loss will happen, though it may be more slowly
than
> for some others.
>
> That is what I decided to do when I ran into the same problem. Another
> issue is that I am on medications that weight gain and water retention are
> two of the side effects listed.
>
> Stick with it, don't get discouraged, and keep on going. It'll happen if
> you stick with it.
>
> --
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Evelyn
>
> (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
>
>
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:42 pm
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Lee Michaels

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:42 pm
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"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.TakeThisOut@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:13:27 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.TakeThisOut@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
>>news:2qo4c1lp7o95k2r7uah33e9nd11l9calcp@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:05:56 -0500, Tayra <spam_me_here.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In any group in life, clubs neighborhoods on the internet or siblings
>>> etc statements go from uninformed and rediculous to very informed and
>>> correct. The only bad opinions are those from overly critical people
>>> and those people that try to stifle other people. There is something
>>> to learn in most posts even if you do not agree and they are
>>> crossposted.
>>>
>>> Thankyou to everybody for the information.
>>> Jeannie
>>
>>You are obviously one of those style over substance folks. So logic won't
>>work on you. But I could offer up advice that could maim or kill you. And
>>that would be OK. As long as I was nice.
>>
>>Some people deserve to be stifled. Because their bad advice can hurt
>>people.
>>But in your perfect world, nobody ever gets hurt.
>>
>>What is it like in your extremely sheltered existence?? Do they eever let
>>you go outside of the wall?
>>
>
> And you are obviously an arrogant, bigmouth, intolerant, assuming and
> controlling jerk. I don't want to know what it is like in your
> hostile critical world. I have a life and won't let you take energy or
> time from mine! I wish I could stay and chat with you, but unlike
> you, I'm busy. Smile
>
Actually, I am none of those things.

But you don't care, do you?
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:10 pm
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Jeannie Sanderson wrote:


> And you* are obviously an arrogant, bigmouth, intolerant, assuming and
> controlling jerk. I don't want to know what it is like in your*
> hostile critical world. I have a life and won't let you take energy or
> time from mine!

* Pronoun trouble.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:27 am
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Hi Jeannie,
The one thing that I find over and over is that from time to time, the first
few weeks can be disappointing.

Rest assured, however, that it is impossible (big, bold, extra font) to
continue to work out more and eat less, without losing weight.

Read that again, because it is very important...

- sals
http://weightloss-book-reviews.com

"Jeannie Sanderson" <Jeannie.DeleteThis@NoMailPlease.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am a 39 year old woman at 5'1" and 140 lbs. My doctor said I should
> wegh under 100 lbs to be good size with my small stature. I begin to
> eat under 1000 kkal a day Monday 6-13. I use a postal scale to verify
> all quantities, and only water is not recorded. I used a elliptical
> trainer 6 days a week and it reads 250 kkals when I stop. Every other
> day I a;lso have a triner push me on universal machines until I am
> exhaused. About 90 minutes. This seems liek a lot of work and little
> food and I am 140 lbs still. I don't understand.
>
> Jeannie
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:34 pm
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According the WW, I'm just fine -- thanks for making my 60 lb weight loss
insignificant. Go back under the rock you came from.

Sarah

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>
> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote
> > Jeannie,
> >
> > I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs.
I'm
> > below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you
if
> > you lost all that weight.
>
> Try not to be offended, but at 5'1" and 127 pounds, you are a tub of lard.
>
> Or, you're not fat, you're just short for your weight.
>
> David
>
>
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:34 pm
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:34:19 GMT, "Sarah Wethered" <swethered.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>According the WW, I'm just fine -- thanks for making my 60 lb weight loss
>insignificant. Go back under the rock you came from.
>
>Sarah
what's your goal? weight in pounds? or body fat percentage?
did you achieve the goal you want 9sounds as if).
done.
....thehick
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:41 pm
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"Sarah Wethered" <swethered RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote
> According the WW, I'm just fine

According to DC, you're a tub of lard.

> -- thanks for making my 60 lb weight loss
> insignificant.

A comment from a total stranger on Usenet can do that to you? Wow. You don't
suppose that lack of self-esteem is more of the root problem than your
weight?

> Go back under the rock you came from.

OK. If I find some extra self-esteem under there, I'll send it out for you.

David


> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "Sarah Wethered" <swethered RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote
>> > Jeannie,
>> >
>> > I'm 5'1" and small statured and my doctor told me to get to 127 lbs.
> I'm
>> > below that now, but only by 3 lbs. There would be nothing left of you
> if
>> > you lost all that weight.
>>
>> Try not to be offended, but at 5'1" and 127 pounds, you are a tub of
>> lard.
>>
>> Or, you're not fat, you're just short for your weight.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>
>
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