burning fat,not muscle

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:05:11 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>Jason Burnell wrote:
>:: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
>:: <rogerzoul2 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>::
>::: Jason Burnell wrote:
>::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, bagpip RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
>:::::
>:::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
>:::::: you this ridiculous advice?
>:::::
>:::::
>::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
>::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
>::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
>::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
>::::: almost immedialtely.
>:::
>::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
>::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
>::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
>::: non-low carb diet)
>:::
>::
>:: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
>:: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
>:: eating every few hours.
>
>And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
>be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
>of carbs.
actually, this talk of blood sugar borders on scam. writers
trying to make money selling books say something that
sounds good. but it's wrong. go ahead. check your blood
sugar in the morning. it'll be regular. might even be high.
the body naturally starts raising it prepatory to waking up.
....thehick
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"Jason Burnell" <deepsquatter DeleteThis @deepsquatter.com> wrote
> "usaims" <usaims DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Doesn't eating after cardio defeats the purpose of burning fat?
>
> Perhaps. I really don't know. My take is that I'd rather defeat that
> purpose a bit rather than burn up more muscle tissue.
>
>>After
>>cardio, rather than the body burn body fat for fuel, its going straight
>>to that stomach full of yummy food? Am I correct, I'm not a
>>nutritionist.
>
> Again, I'd do the cardio... ok.. I'm a powerlifter and those that
> know me will call me on the words "I'd do the cardio" so let me
> rephrase that..... I'd THEORETICALLY do the cardio.... for 30-40
> minutes and then eat something...

Wuss! Can't eat DURING cardio? Sensitive stomach?



David
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:05:11 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Jason Burnell wrote:
>:: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
>:: <rogerzoul2.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>::
>::: Jason Burnell wrote:
>::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, bagpip.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:
>:::::
>:::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
>:::::: you this ridiculous advice?
>:::::
>:::::
>::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
>::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
>::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
>::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
>::::: almost immedialtely.
>:::
>::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
>::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
>::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
>::: non-low carb diet)
>:::
>::
>:: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
>:: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
>:: eating every few hours.
>
>And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
>be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
>of carbs.

If I were trying to dro bodyfat and do cardio, I'd be cutting the
carbs down....
>
>:::::
>::::: The concern for those trying to gain wieght, is that you might
>::::: also burn up muscle tissue. Parillo contends that with MCT oils
>::::: and also eating when your done (and throughout the day) that
>::::: musle loss is minimal.
>:::::
>::::: Your mileage may vary.
>::::: Jason Burnell
>::::: http://www.deepsquatter.com
>:::
>::
>:: Jason Burnell
>:: http://www.deepsquatter.com
>

Jason Burnell
http://www.deepsquatter.com
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:46:12 -0400, frank-in-toronto
<thehickOBVIOUS DeleteThis @OBVIOUScanada.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:05:11 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
><rogerzoul2 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Jason Burnell wrote:
>>:: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
>>:: <rogerzoul2 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>::
>>::: Jason Burnell wrote:
>>::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, bagpip DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
>>:::::
>>:::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
>>:::::: you this ridiculous advice?
>>:::::
>>:::::
>>::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
>>::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I think.
>>::::: The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your glycogen
>>::::: levels should be at a low point so you will begin to burn fat
>>::::: almost immedialtely.
>>:::
>>::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
>>::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
>>::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
>>::: non-low carb diet)
>>:::
>>::
>>:: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food coming
>>:: in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time you were
>>:: eating every few hours.
>>
>>And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is unlikely to
>>be low enough to make a difference, espeically if you've been eating plenty
>>of carbs.
>actually, this talk of blood sugar borders on scam. writers
>trying to make money selling books say something that
>sounds good. but it's wrong. go ahead. check your blood
>sugar in the morning. it'll be regular. might even be high.
>the body naturally starts raising it prepatory to waking up.

And what does the body use to synthesize glucose? It just may be,
hmm, possibly, I dunno, glycogen?
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Jason Burnell wrote:
:: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:05:11 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
:: <rogerzoul2.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
::
::: Jason Burnell wrote:
::::: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
::::: <rogerzoul2.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
:::::
:::::: Jason Burnell wrote:
:::::::: On 1 Jun 2005 05:11:33 -0700, bagpip.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
::::::::
::::::::: Where did you hear such advice? I really want to know who told
::::::::: you this ridiculous advice?
::::::::
::::::::
:::::::: John Parrillo recommends it (the morning cardio - not sure abut
:::::::: the not eating for an hour though) as does Chris Aceto, I
:::::::: think. The idea is that you've been asleep all nigght and your
:::::::: glycogen levels should be at a low point so you will begin to
:::::::: burn fat almost immedialtely.
::::::
:::::: at a low point? Considering that you've been sleeping, I wouldn't
:::::: think that the low point would be very low relative to the amount
:::::: of stored glycogen possible (assuming person is using a typical
:::::: non-low carb diet)
::::::
:::::
::::: Hmm... assumoing that you'd slept for 8-10 hours with no food
::::: coming in it would be at it's lowest point compared to any time
::::: you were eating every few hours.
:::
::: And since you don't use a lot of energy while sleeping, it is
::: unlikely to be low enough to make a difference, espeically if
::: you've been eating plenty of carbs.
::
:: If I were trying to dro bodyfat and do cardio, I'd be cutting the
:: carbs down....

Yes, that would be a good idea. But the bottom line is it doesn't matter
beans when you do your cardio, as long as you do. Diet will be most
important for ridding your body of fat, though.
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:09:33 -0700, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMX.com>
wrote:

>"Steve Freides" <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
>news:3g5qm5Faqte5U1@individual.net...
>> "usaims" <usaims.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1117627653.265428.280010@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hello,
>> > I have read that to burn fat is to do cardio in the morning on an
>> > empty
>> > stomach and wait one hour before eating breakfast, makes sense?
>> > Unfortunately, I do not have the luxuary of waking up early in the
>> > morning to do this. When I wake up, I usually have a protein shake
>> > (300
>> > calories). Around 10:30am I get very hungry and have a half
>> > peanutbutter and jelly sandwich, then at noon I'll go to the gym and
>> > do
>> > cardio for about 25 minutes. I usually wait about an hour after cardio
>> > to eat (by that time, I'm really hungry). I usually eat a high protein
>> > meal around 1:30pm. I am wondering if this is a good program? I have
>> > heard that running in the evening is not that effective for burning
>> > fat, is that true, or could somebody recommend a better way? Thanks in
>> > advance.
>>
>> Morning cardio may help somewhat, but the time of day isn't as important
>> as the overall balance of calories in versus calories out. Since many
>> people create grand fitness plans that they then stop following, I
>> suggest you find a schedule that works for you and not worry too much
>> about doing your cardio in the morning.
>
>Your post is far too well-reasoned, and lacks the acerbic, condescending
>tone required of posts in mfw.
>
>Please consult the FAQ so you don't repeat this mistake in future...you homo
>twit.
>
>GG

i agree. totally inappopriate for this newsgroup. what's going on in
this friggin' group? elzibub and Lyle Schmuckdonald and Hobman have
left. the troll rules supreme (though good for astral BJs, as always),
this bill davidson character pipes up, the Mr-Natural-Health who
really isn't, etketera, etketera (0.01 to Cohen of the Cabal).

what the hell is going on?

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