Help me lose the fat

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:

> Dr_Dickie <Dr_Dicke.RemoveThis@chembench.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr.RemoveThis@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:

>>>It won't end up mattering if the OP is who I think she is, but it's
>>>still good advice for other people.
>>>
>>
>>And of course, that is based on what the OP said.
>>It has been my experience that what most people say their doctor says, and
>>what was actually said, are worlds apart.
>
>
> Again: if the OP is who I think she is, none of it will matter.

Why? Where do you know her from?

Delenn
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Delenn <Delenn RemoveThis @whoever.com> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > Dr_Dickie <Dr_Dicke RemoveThis @chembench.com> wrote:
> >>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr RemoveThis @ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
>
> >>>It won't end up mattering if the OP is who I think she is, but it's
> >>>still good advice for other people.
> >>>
> >>
> >>And of course, that is based on what the OP said.
> >>It has been my experience that what most people say their doctor says, and
> >>what was actually said, are worlds apart.
> >
> >
> > Again: if the OP is who I think she is, none of it will matter.
>
> Why? Where do you know her from?

asdl-c. She's a drama queen of epic proportions.

I'll let you decide whether or not that pun was intentional.
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me <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2005 21:59:13 -0700, "Larry Hodges" wrote:
>
> > Basically, she needs to be willing to dedicate the next 3+ years
> >of her life to this goal
>
> I was thinking more along the lines of 4 years.

It seems to me that you've lost and regained the same 20lbs several
times in the almost three years that I've been seeing you post.
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Lynne A <embstop DeleteThis @rushmore.com> wrote:

> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr DeleteThis @ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
> >
> > Again: if the OP is who I think she is, none of it will matter.
>
> It is.

I figured.

Oh well. We can always use some crazy drama around here. It livens the
place up.
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Larry Hodges <2larry2.DeleteThis@2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > Larry Hodges <2larry2.DeleteThis@2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:
> >> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> >>> me <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Oh yeah...the doc gave me the greenlight on starting exercise but
> >>>> beyond that he wasn't a lot of help.
> >>>
> >>> You weigh FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS and your doctor is giving you this
> >>> kind of hands-off shitty advice?
> >>>
> >>> First thing I'd do is find another doctor.
> >>
> >> I was kind of thinking that myself.... :-/
> >
> > It won't end up mattering if the OP is who I think she is, but it's
> > still good advice for other people.
>
> You know somthing the rest of us don't know? Cough it up girl.

Oh, don't just take my word for it. Let's see what Nina had to say:

http://tinyurl.com/bq32u
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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> Lynne A <embstop.DeleteThis@rushmore.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr.DeleteThis@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
>>
>>>Again: if the OP is who I think she is, none of it will matter.
>>
>>It is.
>
>
> I figured.
>
> Oh well. We can always use some crazy drama around here. It livens the
> place up.

Uhoh. I sense a rival. I thought I had the position all sewn up!

Delenn
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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> Lynne A <embstop.RemoveThis@rushmore.com> wrote:
>
>> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr.RemoveThis@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
>>>
>>> Again: if the OP is who I think she is, none of it will matter.
>>
>> It is.
>
> I figured.
>
> Oh well. We can always use some crazy drama around here. It livens
> the place up.

Okay, are we:

a.) being trolled
b.) wasting time and advice
--
-Larry
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On 10 May 2005 11:45:48 -0700, "Dice" <nevans999 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>You have received some very good advice already, but I will just add
>something that has worked for me. Most of my carbs come from whole
>grains. Things like Cheerios and whole grain bread will help to fill
>your stomach so that you are not as hungry. Also, these carbs will
>burn slower and give you more energy.

I was also going to add wild rice, brown rice and whole grains like
that.


>Also, I know that there is a lot of debate about how many meals you
>should eat per day. I know that eating several small meals is popular
>right now; however, I have found that just eating three well-planned
>meals per day (including whole grains) has helped me to lose quite a
>bit. Also, as mentioned above. Don't just go hungry. That is the
>easiest way to boot yourself off the wagon. If you have to, pick up a
>healthy snack (low-sugar fruits).

The trouble is I am not certain which are low sugar fruits other then
berries.


>I have also learned how effective walking is for burning calories. I
>would try to find a pace that you feel is comfortable at and yet you
>still have to exert yourself pretty vigorously. I also am a big fan of
>treadmills that include a calorie counter. It gives me a big boost of
>confidence to see how many calories I have actually burned. These may
>not be completely accurate, but they do give you a mental boost.
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In article <ub3381t5ff2t8du8vbsdhca1qqeog17pg9.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
"me" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> writes:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 19:44:50 -0000, rwk.DeleteThis@LinxNet.com (Runs With Knives)
> wrote:
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>>As I understand it, it's difficult to do too much cardio.
>
> I don't plan to run daily marathons. I thought I would start with a 15
> to 30 minute walk every day.

Understand that by "too much," I meant "too often." And even then:
Within reason. Obviously you could cardio yourself to exhaustion.
And it is certainly possible to cardio too hard--just as with any
other exercise.

>
>>When I started-in to health training back at the beginning of March,
[snip]
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> I'm at slug status. Godd advise. Thanks!!

Everybody's got to start somewhere . You're welcome.

>
>
>>I simply keep fresh water near me at all times. When I'm thirsty: I
>>drink. I don't really keep track of how much I drink.
>
> I know how much it is because I drink from a 500 ml water bottle and I
> drink 4 of them a day. One with breakfast. One with lunch and one for
> dinner and one in the evening.

Be advised there are two schools of thought regarding drinking large
amounts of water with meals: Some believe it aids digestion, others
(most I've seen, incl. my wife) feels that too much water directly
before, during, or directly following a meal adversely affects
digestion. Search on it and reach your own conclusions.

Btw: Green tea is reputed by some to be very good for you and an aid
to weight loss.

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On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:53:53 -0000, rwk.DeleteThis@LinxNet.com (Runs With Knives)
wrote:


>Understand that by "too much," I meant "too often." And even then:
>Within reason.

Yes I understood that.


>Be advised there are two schools of thought regarding drinking large
>amounts of water with meals: Some believe it aids digestion, others
>(most I've seen, incl. my wife) feels that too much water directly
>before, during, or directly following a meal adversely affects
>digestion. Search on it and reach your own conclusions.

Ok. Thanks. I will do that.

>Btw: Green tea is reputed by some to be very good for you and an aid
>to weight loss.

I've heard that but I cannot stand drinking the stuff.
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me wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:53:53 -0000, rwk.TakeThisOut@LinxNet.com (Runs With Knives)
> wrote:
>
>
>> Understand that by "too much," I meant "too often." And even then:
>> Within reason.
>
> Yes I understood that.
>
>
>> Be advised there are two schools of thought regarding drinking large
>> amounts of water with meals: Some believe it aids digestion, others
>> (most I've seen, incl. my wife) feels that too much water directly
>> before, during, or directly following a meal adversely affects
>> digestion. Search on it and reach your own conclusions.
>
> Ok. Thanks. I will do that.
>
>> Btw: Green tea is reputed by some to be very good for you and an aid
>> to weight loss.
>
> I've heard that but I cannot stand drinking the stuff.

Until you lose some of your weight, I would be *really* careful even walking
much for your cardio. 400 lbs is a lot of weight on your knees. Water
aerobics is an option. Cycling or the elliptical if you can handle those.
Just be careful with anything impact...even light impact.

If you are going to walk, try your local school's rubberized running track.
And of course a good pair of running / walking shoes.
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-Larry
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On Tue, 10 May 2005 14:38:36 -0400, "Dr_Dickie"
<Dr_Dicke.DeleteThis@chembench.com> wrote:


>I lost about 100 #'s, not from heart attack, but type-II diabetes (syndrome
>X anyone).

My mom had that and with my PCOS (Poly-Cystic Ovarian Syndrome for the
unwashed) I could also get it.


> Getting sick saved my life! Old doctor Phil ain't got s%^t on
>doctor death when it comes to altering one's life.

Who listens to Dr Phil anyway? LOL.

>Everyone has given you good advice, let me just throw my $0.02 in:
>A lifestyle change is just that, it never ends. I heard this, I thought
>this, but I did not understand this until it happened to me. Education (for
>me) was (is) a big part of the lifestyle change.

I believe so as well.

>The biggest problem is,
>there are more weirdo's, wacko's dingbats, and jelloheads out there than you
>can shake a stick at. BE CAREFUL.

I will.


> Fortunately for you, the folks here do
>good job of hashing out the real from the BS, so ask away here.

What you mentioned was my reason for asking here. If weightlifters
do not know the answers then who does?


> Remember,
>there is no goal in a lifestyle change, no arrival, no "I made it!!," other
>than living longer than you should .

Yes. This is a *lifestyle* change for me and I do not wish to die at
50 or sooner.

>Don't try to rush everything at once. A wise man said, the best, the most
>beneficial, the most life altering, the absolute healthiest exercise you can
>ever do is the one that you WILL do--the rest is degrees. So, don't make it
>an all or nothing. Try a lot of different exercises, find out what you
>like.

I know of a few I like but I am sure there are more out there.


>Start walking, damn good for you. As the mood moves you, do more.
>Resistance exercise is great, but you might not like it. You might not get
>into it right now. That's okay. Try it, if it doesn't work for you, try
>something else. Later come back and try it again.

I'm actually considering getting some of those resistance bands and
using them daily.



>As far as eating: If they did more than kill it, clean it, and package it,
>try to avoid it. It shouldn't look too far removed from the way it did in
>the wild.

I stopped eating processed food a long time ago. I won't even touch
whole wheat pasta because it is processed and I eat bread very rarely
now and *only* whole grain bread from the health food store if I do
indulge.

The only processed foods I sometimes indulge in is a small portion of
very dark chocolate around once a month, an occasional
diet pepsi and protein powders.
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On Wed, 11 May 2005 10:13:38 -0700, "Larry Hodges"
<2larry2 RemoveThis @2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:



>You've heard me mention Dally. Delenn is Dally. She would be a great asset
>for you, and she has some impressive before and after photos. She knows her
>stuff, so listen to her.

Alrighty. She does sound very knowledgeable.


>And you should take some before pictures as you start this venture. In a
>few months, take some more and compare. When you see progress, you'll be
>motivated to stay with it.

I took several tonight with my digital camera.
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