Bowflex Vs Nordic Trac Free Motion Unit

"JMW" <jmwilliams_56.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm simply addressing the subject at hand.

Liar.

>you denigrated the opinions of others.

See? Yo widdle feewings aww huuuurt.

>Would you care to explain why that behavio[u]r
>requires excuses?

You're nothing more than a crybaby bitch. Pissing about your opinion
being (gasp) denigrated and yet responding with a condescending and/or
mocking *behavio[u]r*.

/You/ require an excuse. Hth!

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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:02:41 -0500, JMW <jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon> wrote:

>"David" <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>"JMW" <jmwilliams_56.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> David wrote:
>>>> "JRH" <jrh.RemoveThis@fit.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> > "JMW" <jmwilliams_56.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>Jason Earl wrote:
>>>> >>> "David" <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>>>> >>> > "JMW" <jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> "David" <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>"JMW" <jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>> "David" <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>>"Jason Earl" <jearl.RemoveThis@xmission.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>>> Why don't you just

SNIP EVERYTHING BUT WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE YOUR POST???

Just a suggestion, but we all know how well those things go over in
this newsgroup. Meh.

>I don't suppose I'm the only one who considers
>that a bit odd.

I consider you a bit odd.

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Curt James <cwj111.RemoveThis@psu.edu> wrote:

>"JMW" <jmwilliams_56.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm simply addressing the subject at hand.
>
>Liar.
>
>>you denigrated the opinions of others.
>
>See? Yo widdle feewings aww huuuurt.
>
>>Would you care to explain why that behavio[u]r
>>requires excuses?
>
>You're nothing more than a crybaby bitch. Pissing about your opinion
>being (gasp) denigrated and yet responding with a condescending and/or
>mocking *behavio[u]r*.
>
>/You/ require an excuse. Hth!

You amuse me, Curt. Yelling and stomping your feet like one of your
elementary school students.

But you may mature someday. Hell, someday, you might even get laid.
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"Dally" wrote in
>
> There's a sharp learning curve for a powerrack and bunch of iron. The OP
> wanted something for people who obviously haven't even started that curve.
> Why not let them start with lat pulldowns and leg extensions for a few
> years before they realize they could make better progress by stepping up
> to free weights?
>
Leg extensions for a few years??

What are you trying to do to these people, cripple them?

Free standing squats with no weights would be a far superior exercise than
leg extnsions.
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JMW <jmw.TakeThisOut@event.horizon> wrote:

>You amuse me, Curt.

Cool.

>Yelling and stomping your feet like one of your
>elementary school students.

Yelling and stomping are both still around, yes, but your behavior is
much closer to the description I'd use: Individuals who think they
have the answer, but all too often don't.

>But you may mature someday.

Where's the fun in THAT?

>Hell, someday, you might even get laid.

ahahaHA!

What was that about maturity?

JMW: "Neener, neener! You might even get laid!"

Piece o' work.

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Curt James <cwj111 DeleteThis @psu.edu> wrote:

>JMW <jmw DeleteThis @event.horizon> wrote:
>
>>You amuse me, Curt.
>
>Cool.
>
>>Yelling and stomping your feet like one of your
>>elementary school students.
>
>Yelling and stomping are both still around, yes, but your behavior is
>much closer to the description I'd use: Individuals who think they
>have the answer, but all too often don't.

What answer would that be, Curt?

>JMW: "Neener, neener! You might even get laid!"

Did I strike a raw nerve, Curt?
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"Dally" <Dally DeleteThis @myself.com> wrote in message
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>
> Lee, what do you think of the incline sliding thing that Chuck Norris
> advertises? I've heard people actually use those.
>
Christie Brinkley "loves the back and forth motion."
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JMW <jmw.DeleteThis@event.horizon> wrote:

re Individuals who think they have the answer, but all too often don't

>What answer would that be, Curt?

That you have issues.

You feel threatened, imo, for whatever reason and, apparently, by a
number of individuals and so react in a negative and rude manner.

Hey, calling you a crybaby bitch is neither negative nor especially
rude as it's pure D truth. You'll define your terms as you see fit, of
course.

>>JMW: "Neener, neener! You might even get laid!"
>
>Did I strike a raw nerve, Curt?

Not at all. What you struck was out.

You showed yourself to be an immature whiner who stoops to the most
childish of insults that your limited creativity can muster. It's
cool. And it's also cool if you have to tell yourself that you're
/winning/ some grand debate when all you're really doing is
participating in a minor pissing contest to no real purpose other
than, maybe, entertainment.

I don't think I amuse you at all. I repeat: You are a liar. You are
upset that certain individuals are playing in what you consider your
personal sandbox. Are you the one who was swapping tales with
what'sherface or is that the other guy? Regardless, your behavior is
anything but exceptional to newsgroups. Your behavior is, in fact,
common.

How's that feel? And have I struck any nerves or, perhaps, a chord?

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"Jack Bruss" <jbruss.DeleteThis@wi.rr.com> writes:

> Thanks for the comment. I gather by the responses to my original
> post that most here are very serious lifters.

We're opinionated blowhards for the most part (and that's probably
being generous).

> I'm 60 years old, and have been working out on machines in a gym
> where I work for the past 4 years or so, and I'm just trying to slow
> down the effects of aging.

Aren't we all.

> I expect to retire in the next year, so that's why I'd like some
> kind of machine at home.

Working out at home is the best. There's never a line, you don't have
to worry about traffic, and you're done with your workout in the same
amount of time that it used to take you to drive up and back.

> I do already have at home a set of dumbells up to 100 lbs and a
> bench. I'm not sure if that will enable me to work most muscles,
> like a bowflex or the Nordic would.

It's hard to beat dumbbells for versatility, especially if you have a
set that goes as heavy as yours does. I would suggest getting an
Olympic bar and some weight to complement your dumbbells and make
doing exercises like squats and deadlifts a little easier and calling
it good. Free weights are fun.

However, I do agree with David on one count, and that is a machine is
way better than doing nothing at all. If you don't feel comfortable
with free weights and you don't mind buying a machine then by all
means get a machine. I don't know what to suggest though. Perhaps we
can get David to "hawk" something.

Jason
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:30:18 -0500, Curt James <cwj111.TakeThisOut@psu.edu> wrote:

>You showed yourself to be an immature whiner who stoops to the most
>childish of insults that your limited creativity can muster

To quote your alter ego: kettle/black

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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:04:36 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Dally" <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote
>>
>> Being elitist is fine - it's worth knowing what the BEST choice is in
>> terms of conditioning. But it's also important to consider space needs
>> and actual workout patterns.
>>
> Dally, I have put together some basic gyms with just a few square feet of
>space, some wood pounded together with nails and some iron. And it provided
>superior results and more versatility compared to that slanted board thingy.
>And at a much lower price tag.

Why it's the original Heath Robinson! ;o)
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On 9 Dec 2005 13:13:40 -0800, "JMW" <jmwilliams_56.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>David wrote:
>> "JMW" <jmw.DeleteThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>> > "David" <forgotwhy.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >>"JMW" <jmw.DeleteThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>> >>> "David" <forgotwhy.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Jason Earl" <jearl.DeleteThis@xmission.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Why don't you just come out and tell us which machine it is that you
>> >>>>> would recommend?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I will then be accused of 'hawking'.
>> >>>
>> >>> Isn't this the resistance training device you recommend for a
>> >>> "commercial gym workout in your home"?
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.onlyfitness.com.au/gyms_8210.htm
>> >>
>> >>No
>> >
>> > That's your company. And that's what the text says.
>>
>> You are wrong.
>> Keep in mind that meddling in other peoples private lives without invitation
>> or provocation may not be in your best interest.
>
>Really? You seem to be amused when Hudson does it to people, such as
>Dally and myself.

But Hudson only does it by way of retaliation and after much
provocation and many warnings.

Both you and Dally get just what you deserve; you really are a great
tart and a typical bully Williams, as you really don't like a taste of
your own medicine do you?

Remember Williams, it was you who taught me to play this devious game
all those years ago - coward!

You are an obsessed stalker John Williams - what are you?
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 14:13:50 -0700, Jason Earl <jearl RemoveThis @xmission.com>
wrote:

>"David" <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> writes:
>
>> "JMW" <jmw RemoveThis @event.horizon> wrote in message
>> news:upljp1dbbqgddlei06102f5s3ci07s4uhr@4ax.com...
>>> "David" <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>"JMW" <jmw RemoveThis @event.horizon> wrote:
>>>>> "David" <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jason Earl" <jearl RemoveThis @xmission.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you just come out and tell us which machine it is that you
>>>>>>> would recommend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will then be accused of 'hawking'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this the resistance training device you recommend for a
>>>>> "commercial gym workout in your home"?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.onlyfitness.com.au/gyms_8210.htm
>>>>
>>>>No
>>>
>>> That's your company. And that's what the text says.
>>
>> You are wrong. Keep in mind that meddling in other peoples private
>> lives without invitation or provocation may not be in your best
>> interest.
>
>I think that you have to cut David a little slack here (assuming that
>this truly is his business). If you are going to sell fitness
>equipment then you pretty much have to offer this sort of a thing, as
>it is what people want. That's the funny thing about sales.
>Sometimes you have to sell people what they want, and not what is good
>for them.

A sound and fair observation Jason.
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