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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:36 am
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David Cohen wrote:
> JMW wrote:
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> DZ wrote:
>>>> Hugh Beyer <beyerxyzzy.TakeThisOut@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Hugh Beyer wrote:
>>>>>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look at the human spine. NOT linear. Our spines were designed,
>>>>>>>> by evolution or God (pick one),
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why only one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mutual exclusivity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hammered together a chicken coop this summer. Was the coop made
>>>>> by the hammer or by me?
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. It was designed by God, and you're just a tool in his
>>>> gaysome hand.
>>>
>>> If it had been designed by God, the wind won't have knocked it over
>>> and let the coyote eat the chickens.
>>>
>>> God does not play dice with the chickens.
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>> Stop telling God how to make chicken coops.
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> I have a close, personal, relationship with God.
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> I ask God for lots of things.
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> God always answers.
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> The answer is always "No".
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> God is a Woman.
>
> David
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:56 am
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General Grievous wrote:
> I tried one today... not sure if I liked it or not...
I am replying to the subject line rather than to your message content.
The only thing that smith machines got going for them is that they
allow you to do a bench press without a spotter. Ergo, no exercise
partner is required.
They are rather primitive weight machines that do NOT offer optimal
workout stress over the entire range of motion.
As a weight machine they remove the challenges of 'weight control'
which are balance, control, and good exercise form.
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:07 am
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Larry Hodges wrote:
> > God is a Woman.
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> Give women the right to vote and they think they can drive...
I saw 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' expecting to see a classical
oriental movie and got women's liberation meets Kong Foo. With combat
scenes so ludicrous that the actors were literally dancing across vast
distances of air; like a cross between Superman, Spiderman, and the
Matrix.
Anybody expecting to get real exercise advice in MFW is in for a real
surprise. Who let the Zoo out?  >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:11 am
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:01 am
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"Joe Humble" <joehumble DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e0ubj15q8o6e2b9mn9k5vnr4o0eiai6acn@4ax.com...
> On 23 Sep 2005 19:38:06 -0700, "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @gmail.com>
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>>Hugh Beyer wrote:
>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
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>>> > Look at the human spine. NOT linear. Our spines were designed, by
>>> > evolution or God (pick one),
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>>> Why only one?
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>>Mutual exclusivity.
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>>David
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> Actually the theory of evolution does NOT exclude an intelligent
> designer as the source of said evolution. Science does not, or should
> not, set out to disprove that which cannot be tested for. As a
> reductionist endeavor science always ends up with an "I don't know" or
> "that's just the way it is" and people can put God in there if they
> like.
Which is why I later posted, "I was throwing a bone to those who wanted to
have it both ways, with
God creating evolution at some point. That way, they can sound like
rational persons by saying "of course evolution is reality" but still
satisfy that irrational human need for a supreme being by saying "but
God created the Universe and the natural laws which lead to evolution".
So, we agree.
Yeah, I'm scared, too.
David >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:18 am
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:55 am
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:50 pm
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General Grievous wrote:
> "zoo" wrote:
>>General Grievous wrote:
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>>>I tried one today... not sure if I liked it or not...
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>>>1) do you really feel this machine helps place
>>>less stress onthe lower back?
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>>>2) Where do your feet really belong when you do this
>>>exercise, and where should your knees end up, behind
>>>your toes, or in front?
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>>So, why do you want to use a smith machine in the first place? When you
>>do free weight squats it hurts your back?
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> cause I have no spotter..
Squat in a rack/cage with the pins set to right below
the bottom of your squat. >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:50 pm
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:14 pm
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:50:28 -0500, Jeff Finlayson
<finlayson.DeleteThis@hiwaaay.not> wrote:
>Squat in a rack/cage with the pins set to right below
>the bottom of your squat.
Does that leave room for his BF, er, I mean "squatting partner" to lay
on his back under him?
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption." >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:29 pm
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"Joe Humble" <joehumble.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote
> by the way a much basic science training does a nurseboy like yourself
> undergo in order to be certified in whatever certifications it is that
> nurseboys require?
Babelfish couldn't translate into English, Mike, but I'll give it a shot,
anyway 
There are no certifications required to be a nurse. You have to graduate
from an accredited nursing school and then pass the licensing boards of the
state in which you want to practice.
Certain jobs within nursing, and certain advancements within nursing,
require certifications. I am, or have been, certified in emergency nursing,
pediatric emergency nursing, pediatric critical care nursing, oncology
nursing, prehospital nursing, paramedic medicine, advanced cardiac life
support, pediatric advanced life support, epidural analgesic administration,
and a few dozen more.
I have been told that I am "certifiable" and a "certified pain in the ass",
but, I never got those cards in the mail, so, I'm not sure.
David >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:29 pm
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 17:29:36 GMT, "David Cohen"
<sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> epidural analgesic administration,
So you LIKE looking up peoples arse's then?
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption." >> Stay informed about: Smith Machines - good or bad? |
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:36 pm
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:11:56 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>On 23 Sep 2005 19:38:06 -0700, "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>Hugh Beyer wrote:
>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote
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>>> > Look at the human spine. NOT linear. Our spines were designed, by
>>> > evolution or God (pick one),
>>>
>>> Why only one?
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>>Mutual exclusivity.
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>>David
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>Actually the theory of evolution does NOT exclude an intelligent
>designer as the source of said evolution
If you believe in evolution god doesn't have to part of the scheme of
things. If you believe in god, you still have to believe in evolution.
Or you can believe in little green men from outer space but thats a
different kettle of fish altogether
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:36 pm
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:50 pm
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