Weight loss with elliptical

T wrote:

> >> It still stuns me
>
>>> when people turn out to be hate-filled intent on malicious bullying.
>>> I can't quite believe people are that awful. But I've been
>>> persuaded. I'm not equipped emotion-wise or caliber-wise to handle
>>> it. I know the implications of that.
>
> There are people in the world who rape, torture and murder children for
> fun.

Society doesn't just say, "oh well, bastards will be bastards." They're
hunted down and executed.

> There are people worse than that.

And that's okay with you?

Dally
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:29:07 -0400, Dally <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>T wrote:
>
>> >> It still stuns me
>>
>>>> when people turn out to be hate-filled intent on malicious bullying.
>>>> I can't quite believe people are that awful. But I've been
>>>> persuaded. I'm not equipped emotion-wise or caliber-wise to handle
>>>> it. I know the implications of that.
>>
>> There are people in the world who rape, torture and murder children for
>> fun.
>
>Society doesn't just say, "oh well, bastards will be bastards." They're
>hunted down and executed.
>
>> There are people worse than that.
>
>And that's okay with you?
>
I'm sure she's not. But, you don't try to help out the bad guys by
posting your kids names on you website. I used to do business online
and the only name I had posted was my own. A friend of mine who is
now doing business in San Francisco, doesn't even list her name on her
website.
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:47:10 -0000, dbastard.TakeThisOut@LinxNet.com (Dopey
Bastard) wrote:

>In article <3mgor3F16f5agU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>,
> Dally <Dally.TakeThisOut@myself.com> writes:
>[snip]
>>
>> I went through this in great detail back in January why I preferred not
>> to use my real name and I don't need to go into it again. Suffice to
>> say that I care. I don't care if you judge it as worthy of caring or not.
>[snip]
>
>I'm not "judging" it as "worthy" of caring about or not. What I'm
>suggesting is that responding to Mr. Hudson's baiting you isn't going
>to make the problem go away. All you're doing by responding is
>empowering the very behaviour to which you *say* you object.
>
>This is the last I'll say on the subject. Do what you want, Dally.
>But don't be surprised when the result of feeding a troll is that it
>continues to thrive.

It appears to me Jim, appropriately aka "Dopey Bastard", if I am the
"troll you have in mind, that it is you that started Wendyrroid off
again.

It would indicate that you are bored that the Group has gone quiet
again, and that there is no "flaming" currently going on, so you are
doing some "trolling" of your own.

Stop being such a hypocrite and pretending to sympathise with her, you
dopey devious bastard, and admit you like to see Wendyrroid thrashing
about!! ;o)
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"Charles" <chas.RemoveThis@fit.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:47:10 -0000, dbastard.RemoveThis@LinxNet.com (Dopey
> Bastard) wrote:
>
>>In article <3mgor3F16f5agU1.RemoveThis@individual.net>,
>> Dally <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> writes:
>>[snip]
>>>
>>> I went through this in great detail back in January why I preferred not
>>> to use my real name and I don't need to go into it again. Suffice to
>>> say that I care. I don't care if you judge it as worthy of caring or
>>> not.
>>[snip]
>>
>>I'm not "judging" it as "worthy" of caring about or not. What I'm
>>suggesting is that responding to Mr. Hudson's baiting you isn't going
>>to make the problem go away. All you're doing by responding is
>>empowering the very behaviour to which you *say* you object.
>>
>>This is the last I'll say on the subject. Do what you want, Dally.
>>But don't be surprised when the result of feeding a troll is that it
>>continues to thrive.
>
> It appears to me Jim, appropriately aka "Dopey Bastard", if I am the
> "troll you have in mind, that it is you that started Wendyrroid off
> again.
>
> It would indicate that you are bored that the Group has gone quiet
> again, and that there is no "flaming" currently going on, so you are
> doing some "trolling" of your own.
>
> Stop being such a hypocrite and pretending to sympathise with her, you
> dopey devious bastard, and admit you like to see Wendyrroid thrashing
> about!! ;o)
>
Such classic troll behavior chucky.

So proud of the pain and discomfort you cause, but won't admit to.

Did it ever occur to our resident troll that the reason that the flame wars
have abated has to do with a huge number of people fleeing this forum
because they can't stand scumbags trolls like yourself?

And again, if you were not such a troll, why do you change your e-mail addy
so often? It IS obvious that many people find you offensive and distasteful.

Why don't yo just admit it chucky? Your actions, in terms of constantly
changeing your addy, speaks volumes. But trolls like yourself never like to
talk about their actions or facts, do they?
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On 2005-08-17, Larry Hodges <2larry2 DeleteThis @2maximizesoftware2.com> wrote:
> The Bill Rodgers wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:00:11 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi
>> <abuse DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2005-08-16, Misael <mezzmonn DeleteThis @libero.it> wrote:
>>>> First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need
>>>> to know
>>>>
>>>> I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers
>>>> are ok.
>>>
>>> They're very good.
>>>
>>>> I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight
>>>
>>> No. The more calories you burn, the better.
>>>
>>
>> Correct, but you'll burn more over the course of the day if you do a
>> long, slow run of one hour.
>>
>> TBR
>
> Let's see a cite for that claim. What % of post WO calorie burn do you get
> from running?

He can't provide a cite for it, because he's making it up.

Having said that, running does burn calories very quickly. Even "easy running"
is actually pretty intense (most people have trouble running at less than 80%
max heart rate)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
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"John Hanson" <jhanson.DeleteThis@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:29:07 -0400, Dally <Dally.DeleteThis@myself.com> wrote in
> misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >T wrote:
> >
> >> >> It still stuns me
> >>
> >>>> when people turn out to be hate-filled intent on malicious bullying.
> >>>> I can't quite believe people are that awful. But I've been
> >>>> persuaded. I'm not equipped emotion-wise or caliber-wise to handle
> >>>> it. I know the implications of that.
> >>
> >> There are people in the world who rape, torture and murder children for
> >> fun.
> >
> >Society doesn't just say, "oh well, bastards will be bastards." They're
> >hunted down and executed.
> >
> >> There are people worse than that.
> >
> >And that's okay with you?
> >
> I'm sure she's not. But, you don't try to help out the bad guys by
> posting your kids names on you website. I used to do business online
> and the only name I had posted was my own. A friend of mine who is
> now doing business in San Francisco, doesn't even list her name on her
> website.

That is exactly right - she has to have rocks in her head. She posts her
photos in her underwear - she posts her photo on her website - she posts all
of her personal info and then cries foul when someone associates the two. At
least one other has exposed her well before now and she did nothing about
it. If she is concerned about the safety of her kids etc and did nothing
about changing her website then - then her stupidity and disingenuousness
is apparent.
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Dally wrote:

> T wrote:
>
>> >> It still stuns me
>>
>>>> when people turn out to be hate-filled intent on malicious
>>>> bullying. I can't quite believe people are that awful. But I've
>>>> been persuaded. I'm not equipped emotion-wise or caliber-wise to
>>>> handle it. I know the implications of that.
>>
>> There are people in the world who rape, torture and murder children
>> for fun.
>
> Society doesn't just say, "oh well, bastards will be bastards." They're
> hunted down and executed.

There are active serial killers in every metropolis. There are, worse, nomadic
ones. Maybe 400 currently active in the US. There are several states without
the death penalty. There are convicted and imprisoned and subsequently paroled
serial killers walking around free right now. There are states without a death
penalty. They're not actually hunted and executed; they're investigated and
arrested and tried and, if found guilty, imprisoned.
>
>> There are people worse than that.
>
> And that's okay with you?
>
> Dally


No.

Certainly I don't go out of my way to provoke them, however, or engage in
slanging matches with vicious annoying punks. Bury your enemies where you find
them. Or, Smile and hug and kiss your friends, treasure them. Smile and cut
the major blood vessels of your enemies - way to a man's heart is through his
stomach, as they say. But your current strategy is ineffective; try something
else. Like unsubscribing from mfw, or killfiling Hudson, or considering the
consequences of your actions before posting.

I, for one, would, hypothetically, rather anonymize and move than lose kids.
Even if the risk wasn't worth that, it would be worth more than mfw. Go hang
out on rec.cycling or something, much nicer.

www.anonymizer.com for cheap easy privacy tools.

I carry guns. I've had to look at someone over the front sight, and feel all
the warmth and color leach out of the universe... they ran before I had to kill
them, fortunately.

A well-trained house dog - I favor German Shepherds, but I'm not the dog nerd
here - would add a thick layer of safety to your household without having to
handle guns, if you're hoplophobic.
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T <T.DeleteThis@nothingbut.net> wrote:
>
>I carry guns. I've had to look at someone over the front sight, and feel all
>the warmth and color leach out of the universe... they ran before I had to kill
>them, fortunately.
>
>A well-trained house dog - I favor German Shepherds, but I'm not the dog nerd
>here - would add a thick layer of safety to your household without having to
>handle guns, if you're hoplophobic.

I prefer German Shepherds. They're very smart, very trainable, and
they're more protective than they are purely aggressive.
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T wrote:

> Certainly I don't go out of my way to provoke them, however, or engage
> in slanging matches with vicious annoying punks. Bury your enemies
> where you find them. Or, Smile and hug and kiss your friends, treasure
> them. Smile and cut the major blood vessels of your enemies - way to a
> man's heart is through his stomach, as they say. But your current
> strategy is ineffective; try something else. Like unsubscribing from
> mfw, or killfiling Hudson, or considering the consequences of your
> actions before posting.

Thank you for some well-thought-out points.

> I, for one, would, hypothetically, rather anonymize and move than lose
> kids. Even if the risk wasn't worth that, it would be worth more than
> mfw. Go hang out on rec.cycling or something, much nicer.
>
> www.anonymizer.com for cheap easy privacy tools.
>
> I carry guns. I've had to look at someone over the front sight, and
> feel all the warmth and color leach out of the universe... they ran
> before I had to kill them, fortunately.
>
> A well-trained house dog - I favor German Shepherds, but I'm not the dog
> nerd here - would add a thick layer of safety to your household without
> having to handle guns, if you're hoplophobic.

I've got the dog. Now I'm going to have to look up hoplophobic.

Thanks.

Dally
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In article <3mhi2mF16rh2bU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>, Dally <Dally DeleteThis @myself.com>
wrote:

> T wrote:
>
> > Certainly I don't go out of my way to provoke them, however, or engage
> > in slanging matches with vicious annoying punks. Bury your enemies
> > where you find them. Or, Smile and hug and kiss your friends, treasure
> > them. Smile and cut the major blood vessels of your enemies - way to a
> > man's heart is through his stomach, as they say. But your current
> > strategy is ineffective; try something else. Like unsubscribing from
> > mfw, or killfiling Hudson, or considering the consequences of your
> > actions before posting.
>
> Thank you for some well-thought-out points.
>
> > I, for one, would, hypothetically, rather anonymize and move than lose
> > kids. Even if the risk wasn't worth that, it would be worth more than
> > mfw. Go hang out on rec.cycling or something, much nicer.
> >
> > www.anonymizer.com for cheap easy privacy tools.
> >
> > I carry guns. I've had to look at someone over the front sight, and
> > feel all the warmth and color leach out of the universe... they ran
> > before I had to kill them, fortunately.
> >
> > A well-trained house dog - I favor German Shepherds, but I'm not the dog
> > nerd here - would add a thick layer of safety to your household without
> > having to handle guns, if you're hoplophobic.
>
> I've got the dog. Now I'm going to have to look up hoplophobic.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dally

That was a term I was also unfamiliar with.
Nice vocabulary addition...

It appears to be a fear of weapons, not just guns if I get the Google
gist correct?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
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Helgi Briem wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:00:11 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi
> <abuse.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight
>>
>> No. The more calories you burn, the better.
>>
>>> (about 60-70% of max cardio rate
>>> for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of
>>
>> More like 80-90%. Only do less than that if you're tired from
>> previous workouts.
>
> Yes, but you're a pretty well trained runner, Donovan.
>
> Do you really think that the typical "wants to lose weight"
> person can really stay at 80-90% of his max HR for 30-40
> minutes?

Yes, they just produce sod all power output compared to someone fit. Over
90-120+ minutes you will get a difference where the endurance athlete can
keep working at a given heart rate for much longer, due to better ability to
burn fat, though.

Peter
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In article <Omelet-BA9FE5.14444317082005 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <Omelet RemoveThis @brokenegz.com> writes:
> In article <3mhi2mF16rh2bU1 RemoveThis @individual.net>, Dally <Dally RemoveThis @myself.com>
> wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> I've got the dog. Now I'm going to have to look up hoplophobic.
[snip]
>
> That was a term I was also unfamiliar with.
> Nice vocabulary addition...
>
> It appears to be a fear of weapons, not just guns if I get the Google
> gist correct?

From <http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Hoplophobe>:

Hoplophobia (pronounced HOP-li-fobia), from the Greek
"hoplon," or weapon, is a phobia identified by firearms
instructor Colonel Jeff Cooper in 1962. His intent was to
gain clinical recognition of the irrational fear of
firearms. He stated that "the most common manifestation of
hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will of
their own, apart from that of their user".

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