HIIT on the Precor Elliptical?

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in
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> BTW, if I were to shower straight after the last rep of a hard interval
> workout, I'd probably still be sweating when I came out of the shower.

Yeah but 10 minutes cooldown? Why not 5 plus shower?

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On 22 Jan 2005 03:17:39 GMT, Lordy <spam_box.DeleteThis@gmx.co.uk> wrote:

>Donovan Rebbechi <abuse.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in
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>> BTW, if I were to shower straight after the last rep of a hard interval
>> workout, I'd probably still be sweating when I came out of the shower.
>
>Yeah but 10 minutes cooldown? Why not 5 plus shower?

There's no way I would be able to 'sweat out' in such a short interval
after a strenuous interval training session.

I do a 5 minute warm-down on the machine I finish up on - usually the
Cross Trainer, then do a 10-15 minute stretch routine, weigh myself,
sit and have my whey protein shake for 5 minutes and then hit the
showers. That is just about right for me.

Have a great weekend Lordy - you know I am!! ;o)
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Charles <charles DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in
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> On 22 Jan 2005 03:17:39 GMT, Lordy <spam_box DeleteThis @gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Donovan Rebbechi <abuse DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in
>>news:slrncv3hcb.kea.abuse@panix2.panix.com:
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>>> BTW, if I were to shower straight after the last rep of a hard
>>> interval workout, I'd probably still be sweating when I came out of
>>> the shower.
>>
>>Yeah but 10 minutes cooldown? Why not 5 plus shower?
>
> There's no way I would be able to 'sweat out' in such a short interval
> after a strenuous interval training session.

I personally wouldnt spend 10 minutes cooling down on the same apperatus.
(which is what I assumed was meant!)

> I do a 5 minute warm-down on the machine I finish up on - usually the
> Cross Trainer, then do a 10-15 minute stretch routine, weigh myself,
> sit and have my whey protein shake for 5 minutes and then hit the
> showers. That is just about right for me.


Sounds good to me! My weekday, lunchtime sessions are a bit rushed though.
The weekend workouts have more leisurely periods.

>
> Have a great weekend Lordy - you know I am!! ;o)
>

Started already!

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:35:33 GMT, "Surfact" <ant.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

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>"Lordy" <spam_box.TakeThisOut@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Deb" <MagicTentacle.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in news:1106320901.233610.293680
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>> > I hadn't done any research on it until I was already at the 45 minute
>> > mark. Only two weeks ago I decided to switch from 45 minutes of
>> > straight work at a single resistance to the interval program. I'm
>> > trying to lose weight and I'm not sure 23 minutes would be enough for
>> > me.
>>
>> If you do it properly .. it will.
>>
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>> Lordy
>
>word
>
>10 minutes can work way better than 45 minutes if your 10 minutes is real
>work and not WAMC
>
>also, even the "venerable" cooper has revised his previous 20 minute recc.
>and now admits you can get good cardio benefit (as an adjunct to weight
>loss) with less than 20 min's
>
>even 10
>
>whit

Hmm, there was some study over at Lyle's site posted saying that
several short bursts of very high intensity increased both aerobic and
anaerobic capacity. Have to see... ah, found it.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4122&highligh...apan+pr

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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-01-21, Deb <MagicTentacle.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> tabber wrote:>
>>>
>>> Also, if you're going all out for 90 sec you're not really going all
>>> out. In your best condition you'll probably only be able to go all
>> out
>>> for only around 30-40 sec.
>>
>> Good to know....I'll play with the routine and see what I can do
>> better.
>
> 30-40 sec for reps still isn't all out. But don't worry, it doesn't need
> to be all-out.

More than about 10 seconds and you won't be going all out. And if you're a
sprinter type, not even that long.

But, as you say, that's not really the point.

Peter
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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-01-22, Lordy <spam_box.DeleteThis@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>> Donovan Rebbechi <abuse.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in
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>>>>
>>>> Not stalking you Donovan honest ! But I often find shower time can be
>>>> included in cooldown time! I figure as long as I'm on my feet and
>>>> moving around "its all good". Am I doing something bad ???
>>>
>>> Speaking for myself, I don't burn many calories in the shower.
>>
>> Cooldown is not about burning calories though is it?
>
> Put it this way, when Gordon Pirie did his interval workouts, he did a
> 45 minute "warm up" jog. Does anyone really take 45 minutes to warm up,
> or was he doing it to get in extra volume ?

Well, actually, yes. If I want to be ready to do a race properly, then I
need to spend something like that long warming up. This is fairly normal for
rowers and cyclists, at least - and my impression was that runners do
something like that much, too?

I don't think I'd bother with that much warm-up for anything but a race,
though.

Peter
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Lordy wrote:
> "Deb" <MagicTentacle.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1106320901.233610.293680
> @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I hadn't done any research on it until I was already at the 45
minute
> > mark. Only two weeks ago I decided to switch from 45 minutes of
> > straight work at a single resistance to the interval program. I'm
> > trying to lose weight and I'm not sure 23 minutes would be enough
for
> > me.
>
> If you do it properly .. it will.
>
> --
> Lordy

I use manual mode and just move the effort where I want it when I want
it.

- bc
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On 2005-01-22, Peter Allen <peteronusenet.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well, actually, yes. If I want to be ready to do a race properly, then I
> need to spend something like that long warming up. This is fairly normal for
> rowers and cyclists, at least - and my impression was that runners do
> something like that much, too?

I don't know any distance runners who do a warmup that long at the club level,
and when I saw some of the top Americans come to NY for a road race, they
weren't doing very much warming up either.

Probably depends a lot on the event. For runners, shorter distance means more
warmup. If you're sprinting, you sure don't want to come out of the blocks
cold. But if you're doing a marathon, you want to stay cool for the first 20
miles. A track 10k for a fast runner (who finishes the race sub 30) is in the
middle -- it's fast enough that you dont' want to be cold, but long enough that
you don't want to leave your race on the warmup track.

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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-01-22, Peter Allen <peteronusenet DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, actually, yes. If I want to be ready to do a race properly, then I
>> need to spend something like that long warming up. This is fairly normal
>> for
>> rowers and cyclists, at least - and my impression was that runners do
>> something like that much, too?
>
> I don't know any distance runners who do a warmup that long at the club
> level,
> and when I saw some of the top Americans come to NY for a road race, they
> weren't doing very much warming up either.
>
> Probably depends a lot on the event. For runners, shorter distance means
> more
> warmup. If you're sprinting, you sure don't want to come out of the blocks
> cold. But if you're doing a marathon, you want to stay cool for the first
> 20
> miles. A track 10k for a fast runner (who finishes the race sub 30) is in
> the
> middle -- it's fast enough that you dont' want to be cold, but long enough
> that
> you don't want to leave your race on the warmup track.

I see what you're saying.

I suppose I'm mainly thinking about short distance stuff - rowing you never
really do more than half an hour at pace ever, and most races are 2k, so
about 6 minutes. Cycling I've mainly done short time trials - 10s and 25s,
so generally less than an hour. For that range, if you don't warm up pretty
well, you lose a couple of minutes in the first five miles, and being
slightly fresher for the last five or twenty miles isn't enough to get you
that time back; and while a rowing race isn't actually a time trial it's
usually raced flat out from the gun.

Peter
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