Calories Burned By Walking

"bj" <bjones44.RemoveThis@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> Why?
> Why do you think you need to decrease the %?

So I can look more fit.

>
> Is your bodyfat % particularly high?

I suppose it is all relative, but I am about 20% right now. I used to be
under 10 when I was in my ealry 20's and I am making every effort to get
back to that condition.


> Do you know what it is -- and if so, how was it measured?

It is the amount of bodyfat on your body divided by the total mass. It is
measured in many different ways with just about al of them having some
degree of error, but I get measured at my gym. It consists of using a
caliper (I think that is what it is callled) and the measure how much
skin/fat they can pinch off your pec, your abs, and your thighs. It is a
little different for woman. Then, those measurements and your body weight
are plugged into some formula which I cnanot explain.



> What is your goal %, and why is it set at that?

My goal is to get to less than 10% which is what I was at in my early 20s.
It is set at that because at that point I looked very fit and that is the
percentage I need to get my abs to really show up. It is all about vanity,
but if it was not, I would not be at the gym at all.

> bj
>
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>
> To reduce the bodyfat but keep muscle, you should eat less calories
> than you spend, eat enough meat or other protein (do not go
> overboard), and strength train.
>
> Gimmick exercises that are supposed to "burn fat" do not
> work. Something may burn more fat than glucose, but in the end some
> muscle will be cannibalized anyway if you are not working on your
> muscles.
>

I realize I am getting this whole thing off the topic of walking and I
apoligze for that but I am getting some great stuff here from you guys.
Anyhow, I am generally a big eater but I excersise a lot and do a large
amount of stregth training. So I suppose maybe I should just not worry as
much about losing the muscle and concentrate on the calories. I beleive I
coudl problably vut a lot out of my diet which is generally healthy but
usually large. I love eating meat. What kind of meals and mid day snacks
can you reccomend?
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Marcello:
> I suppose it is all relative, but I am about 20% right now. I used to be
> under 10 when I was in my ealry 20's and I am making every effort to get
> back to that condition.

I got down to 6% this past summer by doing lots of aerobics (I bike
(like 3 hours a day)) and eating a high protein diet. very little
muscle loss. Oh, and I'm 40 y/o.

As has been pointed out, it's both diet and exercise. It's also
commitment and discipline. Things like pedometers, food diaries, (and
wearable computers) provide information to help achieve your goals, but
in the end, it's really up to you.

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you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The
truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no
facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -- Daria
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"Scott Safier" <scott RemoveThis @pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM> wrote in message
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> I got down to 6% this past summer by doing lots of aerobics (I bike
> (like 3 hours a day)) and eating a high protein diet. very little
> muscle loss. Oh, and I'm 40 y/o.
>
> As has been pointed out, it's both diet and exercise. It's also
> commitment and discipline. Things like pedometers, food diaries, (and
> wearable computers) provide information to help achieve your goals, but
> in the end, it's really up to you.
>


Wow, congrats on those great numbers! Where would you reccomend getting a
good pedometer? Also, can you elaborate on your food diary. I have done
this before and has some success with it but eventually lost interest when
my improvments from dieting plateued. But my diary mainly consisted of me
writing eveyr thing I ate down thus restricting my calories. What is the
goal with the diary?

Thanks again.
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"Ignoramus21054" <ignoramus21054.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.21054.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Why can't you concentrate on both calories as well as exercise?
>
> I do not understand why you think that you have to choose what to
> concentrate on. You can and should do both.

I just do not want to burn muscle away. I could problably go on 1/10th the
amount of calories I get and drop a ton of weight, but this is not what I
want to do because I would be losing muscle mass I have worked so
diligiently on for years.

>
> What is your weight and height?
>

6'1" - 215 - in pretty solid shape but would like to lower bodyfat.
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"Ignoramus21054" <ignoramus21054.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.21054.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <dcofb.12691$Rd4.1825@fed1read07>, Marcello wrote:
> >
> > "Ignoramus21054" <ignoramus21054.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.21054.invalid> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> Why can't you concentrate on both calories as well as exercise?
> >>
> >> I do not understand why you think that you have to choose what to
> >> concentrate on. You can and should do both.
> >
> > I just do not want to burn muscle away. I could problably go on 1/10th
the
> > amount of calories I get and drop a ton of weight, but this is not what
I
> > want to do because I would be losing muscle mass I have worked so
> > diligiently on for years.
>
> Go on 70% the amount of calories that you would need to maintain
> weight and continue strength training. What's the problem, why do you
> want to even consider going on 1/10 the calories?

What I was saying is that I have the discipline to be able to do that. I
was using that as an extreme example, not something I would actually do.
The thing is, every bodybuilding magazine I read always discusses the
importance of getting the proper amount of food consumption to allow muscles
to rebuild properly. What worries me about cutting calories is that my
muscles will not have the proper amount. Cutting 70% sounds good and all
but it sounds much more like just a diet plan which is not what I am looking
for.
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Ignoramus21054:
> In article <ADlfb.12376$Rd4.3824@fed1read07>, Marcello wrote:
>> Wow, congrats on those great numbers! Where would you reccomend getting a
>> good pedometer? Also, can you elaborate on your food diary. I have done
>> this before and has some success with it but eventually lost interest when
>> my improvments from dieting plateued. But my diary mainly consisted of me
>> writing eveyr thing I ate down thus restricting my calories. What is the
>> goal with the diary?
>
> I am not frankly sure what is the purpose of a pedometer.

This is the easier question The purpose of such devices is to
provide information and feedback. Why a pedometer? Because, if your
goal is weight loss, you should move more -- walk, run, jog, (bike).
With a device like a pedometer, you get a number from which you can
baseline. If you took 10,000 steps yesterday, and take 11,000 today,
you've done better. If you walk 11,000 steps and you assume that your
rate is 3 METS, you can figure out an estimate of how many calories
you're burning. The problem is that it isn't 3 mets. It might be 2
mets. It might be 8. If your jogging/running it might be 13. It
could be anywhere in between.

If you want to know how many calories you are actually burning, well,
you probably need to get in a doubly-labeled water study. Or you can
be hooked up to an indirect calometry machine (VO2), but that is
really inconvenient for free-living.

Unabashed plug: or, you can get one of these new wearable computer
gizmos where they do correlate to indirect calomitry and get an
estimate of your caloric burn.

So, the simple answer is that most people simply want information and
feedback. How good is that feedback is the real problem.

I bet you knew most of this, didn't you

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"Stand firm for what you believe in until or unless logic or experience prove
you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The
truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no
facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -- Daria
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Marcello:
>
> "Scott Safier" <scott DeleteThis @pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM> wrote in message
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>
>> I got down to 6% this past summer by doing lots of aerobics (I bike
>> (like 3 hours a day)) and eating a high protein diet. very little
>> muscle loss. Oh, and I'm 40 y/o.
>>
>> As has been pointed out, it's both diet and exercise. It's also
>> commitment and discipline. Things like pedometers, food diaries, (and
>> wearable computers) provide information to help achieve your goals, but
>> in the end, it's really up to you.
>>
>
>
> Wow, congrats on those great numbers! Where would you reccomend getting a
> good pedometer?

I tend to agree with the other poster that the value of pedometers is
limited. A simple step count is one source of information, but
doesn't really tell you how many calories you are burning.

>Also, can you elaborate on your food diary. I have done
> this before and has some success with it but eventually lost interest when
> my improvments from dieting plateued. But my diary mainly consisted of me
> writing eveyr thing I ate down thus restricting my calories. What is the
> goal with the diary?

The goal is this idea of energy balance or caloric balance. If you
want to lose weight, you need to burn more calories than you are
consuming (and, I would argue, pay attention to the type of calories
you are consuming). People burn calories through exercise and
movement (e.g. walking more).

A food diary is half the energy balance equation. Basically, it is a
record of how many calories you are consuming -- what you are eating,
size of portion, etc. To be blunt, they are a pain in the ass. There
are systems to make them easier, like Weight Watchers or a variety of
websites. There are studies (which I have at work) that show that
people are very bad at keeping food diaries -- people underestimate
what they are eating. However, if you are serious about weight loss,
you need some method of understanding how many calories you are
putting into your body, even if you make mistakes.

The other side of the equation is how many calories you are burning.

As I've said, I work for a company that has developed a wearable
computer. I've had access to it. We've done clinical studies and
come up with algorithms to estimate caloric burn based upon the data
the computer's multiple sensors collect (and, please remember, I am
under a non-disclosure agreement on the specifics of such algorithms).
Our technology has been tested in clinical studies. So, when it tells
me that I'm burning over 3000 calories a day (and I bike for 60 to 90
minutes per day), I tend to believe it is pretty much on target. When
I bike for 3 hours a day and the device tells me I'm burning over 5000
calories, I believe that. I can then adjust how much I'm eating to
either maintain or lose weight.

As I pointed out in my other post, this is all about feedback. The
food diary and the pedometer/wearable computer/etc simply provide
information about how well you are doing. Your bathroom scale also
provides that feedback, as does a mirror. However, the scale provides
a more coarse granularity (say, over a week or a month timeframe) than
does a pedometer (or wearable computer), which can provide daily (or
even hourly or at any minute) information.

As a computer geek, I tend to believe there is value in information,
and sometimes more is better. For weight management, information
comes in two flavors -- how much you are putting in and how much you
are expending. Food diaries and pedometers/wearable computers/caloric
burn numbers on treadmills/etc are the two sides of this scale.

--
Scott http://www.pink-triangle.org/scott
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"Stand firm for what you believe in until or unless logic or experience prove
you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The
truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no
facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -- Daria
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Marcello:
>
> "Ignoramus21054" <ignoramus21054 RemoveThis @NOSPAM.21054.invalid> wrote in message
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>> In article <dcofb.12691$Rd4.1825@fed1read07>, Marcello wrote:
>> >
>> > "Ignoramus21054" <ignoramus21054 RemoveThis @NOSPAM.21054.invalid> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >>
>> >> Why can't you concentrate on both calories as well as exercise?
>> >>
>> >> I do not understand why you think that you have to choose what to
>> >> concentrate on. You can and should do both.
>> >
>> > I just do not want to burn muscle away. I could problably go on 1/10th
> the
>> > amount of calories I get and drop a ton of weight, but this is not what
> I
>> > want to do because I would be losing muscle mass I have worked so
>> > diligiently on for years.
>>
>> Go on 70% the amount of calories that you would need to maintain
>> weight and continue strength training. What's the problem, why do you
>> want to even consider going on 1/10 the calories?
>
> What I was saying is that I have the discipline to be able to do that. I
> was using that as an extreme example, not something I would actually do.
> The thing is, every bodybuilding magazine I read always discusses the
> importance of getting the proper amount of food consumption to allow muscles
> to rebuild properly. What worries me about cutting calories is that my
> muscles will not have the proper amount. Cutting 70% sounds good and all
> but it sounds much more like just a diet plan which is not what I am looking
> for.
>

Eat more protein, eat a sufficient amount of (complex) carbs, limit
fats and simple sugars.

Stick with your exercise routine.

Keep track of how many calories you are eating and how many calories
you are burning. If you want to burn fat, eat less calories than you
are burning through exercise.

--
Scott http://www.pink-triangle.org/scott
AOL IM: CorwinScot YahooIM: CycleMuscle

"Stand firm for what you believe in until or unless logic or experience prove
you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The
truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no
facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -- Daria
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