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(Msg. 61) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:18 am
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<ephedralover DeleteThis @hotmail.com> schreef:

>> No way. In the catch of the clean you have to drop under the load. That
>> is a perfect weightlifting squat. It prepares you for the sport and
>> develops specific strength and conditioning.

> This aint the clean. And he is dropping fast because the weight is too
> much for him.

Doesnt make sense.
The concentric looked pretty easy, which is an indication that he didnt use
too much weight.
And again, he didnt bounce, he just moved fast. Not the same thing...

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:21 am
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"David" <forgotwhy DeleteThis @yahoo.com.au> schreef:

>> Could someone who knows more than me

> are you referring to everyone on this planet?

Nice one.

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:34 am
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"Hobbes" <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef:

> He is doing the exercise to train hip extension and strength for the
> 'explosion'. For an olympic lifter that is the best way.

> You are training for general posterior chain strength or hypertrophy
> (guess there, but I'm sure I'm not far off). You'd be better off doing
> them fuller and slower.

I noticed when you *try* to move the weight as fast as possible, you have
better growth. Of course, the weight doesnt move that fast because if you
dont bounce and heavy weights, 80-85%, are used. The eccentric can be done a
little slower, not too slow. I ussualy do 8 reps within 15 seconds in the
front press. At this moment its about 12-13 seconds, and i am sure i am
stronger.

I once did an experement while on AS.

I used the exact same weights, reps and sets, but was attempting to move the
bar faster, but still under control, and with an eccentric that was close to
"normal." Perhaps a little faster. I had very good results.

I got this idea because i saw some Olympic lifters with incredible quads. A
lot of men, but also the Asian women. A lot of bodybuilders still fall into
the "move very slow, mind into muscle" trap. At this moment i train a guy
that has been doing this for over 3 years, with the majority being isolation
movements, and didnt gain one pound. I let him to 4 basic movements each
day, and told him not to worry THAT much about form. Just move that
weight...

He is into severe pain.

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:47 am
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"Curt James" <cwj111.RemoveThis@psu.edu> schreef:

> re Ms. Cleo

>>She is great, isnt she?
>>But Cherokee, IMO is still the undisputed World Champion of Ass

> Oh, yeah, anyway, we found Curt passed out on the floor as that video
> was playing. He was taken by ambulance to Carlisle Hospital, but we're
> pretty sure he's going to make it. He better - he owes me fifty
> dollars!

> Cherokee! DAMN! Get a loada THAT ASS!

Its a very nice ass. A VERY nice ass!

>>Remember we were discussing certain body ratios a few weeks ago?
>>Well... i find a nice one, she makes both beyonce and Jennie Lopez look
>>like
>>amatuers

>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGJ3d_NZHU

>>Did you see that hip/waist ratio?

>>Okay, time to vote!

>>1 vote for Cherokee.

> 1 vote for Miss Cleo.

Noted.

But did you gave that vote for shape or muscle control?
(BTW, i believe the "secret" is to contract the medial glute, NOT the
maximus...)

Onre last chance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkgQeTMELAI

Is that a walk or what ?!?!?!

And this one;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPvHPirIGzs

BTW, the other regalurs didnt vote, and pretended not to be interested in
those curvy asses.
We know better of course...

Antway, it seems like we have a tie here...

So they are both WCOA (World Champion Of Ass)

> (Curt printed out several poster-sized images of
> this chic and that swayed my vote.)

I would like to meet both.
And have a final, A la Olympia "posedown." Would be cool.

> Well, I gotta go root through all Curt's stuff since he's probably
> going to be at the hospital for a bit. But, yeah, I'm sure he'll
> recover and be posting again real soon.

What are you going to tell the doctor?

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:47 am
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Pete <phoutstra.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

>"Curt James" <cwj111.RemoveThis@psu.edu> schreef:
>
>> re Ms. Cleo
>
>>>She is great, isnt she?
>>>But Cherokee, IMO is still the undisputed World Champion of Ass
>
>> Oh, yeah, anyway, we found Curt passed out on the floor as that video
>> was playing. He was taken by ambulance to Carlisle Hospital, but we're
>> pretty sure he's going to make it. He better - he owes me fifty
>> dollars!
>
>> Cherokee! DAMN! Get a loada THAT ASS!
>
>Its a very nice ass. A VERY nice ass!
>
>>>Remember we were discussing certain body ratios a few weeks ago?
>>>Well... i find a nice one, she makes both beyonce and Jennie Lopez look
>>>like amatuers
>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGJ3d_NZHU
>
>>>Did you see that hip/waist ratio?
>
>>>Okay, time to vote!
>
>>>1 vote for Cherokee.
>
>> 1 vote for Miss Cleo.
>
>Noted.
>
>But did you gave that vote for shape or muscle control?
>(BTW, i believe the "secret" is to contract the medial glute, NOT the
>maximus...)
>
>Onre last chance...
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkgQeTMELAI
>
>Is that a walk or what ?!?!?!
>
>And this one;
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPvHPirIGzs
>
>BTW, the other regalurs didnt vote, and pretended not to be interested in
>those curvy asses.
>We know better of course...
>
>Antway, it seems like we have a tie here...
>
>So they are both WCOA (World Champion Of Ass)
>
>> (Curt printed out several poster-sized images of
>> this chic and that swayed my vote.)
>
>I would like to meet both.
>And have a final, A la Olympia "posedown." Would be cool.
>
>> Well, I gotta go root through all Curt's stuff since he's probably
>> going to be at the hospital for a bit. But, yeah, I'm sure he'll
>> recover and be posting again real soon.
>
>What are you going to tell the doctor?

I didn't have to tell the doctor a thing. Just balanced a bucket of
hammers above Curt's entryway. POW! Back in the hospital and here I
sit drinking his iced tea and using his dial-up. Man, this guy has GOT
to get DSL or somethin'.

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(Msg. 66) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:25 am
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"Curt James" <cwj111 RemoveThis @psu.edu> wrote in message
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> David <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>OK, I will dump Charles AND Curt - they WERE my best friends.
>
> Thanks. You were becoming a bit of a chore.
>
>>Does that show good enough loyalty?
>
> /Almost/ matches the degree of loyalty of my exgirlfriend.

Now Curt, I see how I've hurt you and realize that you must be in a state of
dark despair. Tell you what, I'll just . . . .you know. . . .uh . . . .
..reconsider . . . .I may have been a little hasty . .. . .uh . . .this
loyalty thing has never been my strong point . . . . SORRY PETE . . .
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:25 am
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"David" <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> schreef:

> Now Curt, I see how I've hurt you and realize that you must be in a state
> of dark despair. Tell you what, I'll just . . . .you know. . . .uh . .
> . . .reconsider . . . .I may have been a little hasty . .. . .uh . . .this
> loyalty thing has never been my strong point . . . . SORRY PETE . . .

I knew you could not be trusted!

Do you have Dutch Ancestors?

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(Msg. 68) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:35 am
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"Curt James" <cwj111 RemoveThis @psu.edu> wrote in message
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> Charles <jrh RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>Despite whatsoever your chum 'Emmy' may say about you
>>Curt, you are without doubt the reigning funny man at MFW.
>
> Making people laugh is my greatest joy, so thanks very much for that,
> Charles.
>
>>This used to be the purview of Cohen,
>
> Not sure on the "used to be" as I've glared resentfully at many of his
> posts recently. Cohen possesses a great combination of moxie and
> chutzpah as well as smarts in abundance. No wonder I hate him so.
>
>>who for reasons best known to himself appears to have lost his
>>flair and equable impartiality.
>
> Oh, well.
>
>>Keep up the good work my friend as it is a pleasure to read your
>>input. This response to Queenie cleared the tubes with a monstrous
>>snort, and got my day off to a good start.
>
> heh
>
> Nothing tops your comment from way back when, though:
>
> | "She considers herself quite a wit when she is dishing it out,
> | but turns awfully brittle when she is on the receiving end.
> |
> | She swiftly consigned me to her alleged "killfiles" following a
> | mauling I gave her, and I have been clear of the silly bitch and
> | her spiteful ways for some time thank goodness!!"
>
> Now THAT was a pleasure to read. Surprised)
>
>>Continue having a great extended long weekend - you know
>>I always do!
>>;o)
>>
>>TFIF!
>
> Yes, enjoy! I value your friendship and appreciate your point of view
> greatly.

yada yada yada . . . . what about MY friendship??
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:35 am
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David <forgotwhy.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

[...]

>yada yada yada . . . . what about MY friendship??

Well, get to it. Make a time machine and go back and tell Queen what a
bitch she is and then let's talk.

Oh, wait, what I meant to say was: "Friendships are the cement of a
happy life. And, yes, it's all about YOU!"

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(Msg. 70) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:35 am
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"David" <forgotwhy.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.au> schreef:


>> Yes, enjoy! I value your friendship and appreciate your point of view
>> greatly.

> yada yada yada . . . . what about MY friendship??

See! See!

I told you...

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(Msg. 71) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:46 am
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"Pete" <phoutstra.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "David" <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>>> Another impressive "feature" about weightlifting is the snatch, but
>>>>> performed in such a way that the quads dont drop below parallel, and
>>>>> they get up in a split second. This is usually done in the first or
>>>>> second lift.
>
>>>> Pete . . . ever since this Keith guy came along you seem to be
>>>> ignoring all of your real friends.
>
>>> See how that feels?
>
>>> I have that same feeling when YOU are playing with Charles or Curt. Not
>>> nice eh?
>
>> OK, I will dump Charles AND Curt - they WERE my best friends. Does that
>> show good enough loyalty?
>
> I also want you to sacrifice a member of this website, preferrably a
> virgin.

Be happy to but I can't promise the 'virgin' part.
>
>>> Anyway, Keith can tell me a thing or two about weghtlifting, and its not
>>> a secret that, besides winning the Mr. O in 2008, i will also become the
>>> first Dutch SuperHeavyWeight Olympic WeightLifting Champion.
>
>> You are right of course. Keith knows a think or two. Almost as much as
>> Dally.
>
> Well, for REAL advice, of course, i will contact Dally (Wendell), after,
> all SHE did read Krissies website!

No virgins there I'm afraid

>
>>> If i pass the drug test, that is... ;-(
>
>> You are a marked man, right?
>
> I am cursed.
> Marked for Death.
>
>> You will be tested for sure. What do you need to do to confound the
>> test?
>
> I need your urine.

That would not piss me off at all!
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(Msg. 72) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:20 am
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"Curt James" <cwj111.RemoveThis@psu.edu> schreef:

>>> Well, I gotta go root through all Curt's stuff since he's probably
>>> going to be at the hospital for a bit. But, yeah, I'm sure he'll
>>> recover and be posting again real soon.

>>What are you going to tell the doctor?

> I didn't have to tell the doctor a thing. Just balanced a bucket of
> hammers above Curt's entryway. POW! Back in the hospital and here I
> sit drinking his iced tea and using his dial-up. Man, this guy has GOT
> to get DSL or somethin'.

Tell Curt to get Broadband ASAP. (And a truckload of benzodiazepines and
Beta-blockers)
Anyway, with a fast connection, i can send him about 100gig of nice ass.
Would be nice. The ass.

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(Msg. 73) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:20 am
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Pete <phoutstra.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

>Tell Curt to get Broadband ASAP.

Absolutely.

>(And a truckload of benzodiazepines

A bucket of hammers is the only "sedative" that boy needs, imo.

>and Beta-blockers)

He'll need the beta-blockers though. I'm raising his rent. That should
do his blood pressure nicely.

"Mmuahahah!" said the diabolical landlord.

>Anyway, with a fast connection, i can send him about 100gig of
>nice ass.
>Would be nice. The ass.

Hmmm. Tell me more about this thing called ass.

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(Msg. 74) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:46 am
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"Curt James" <cwj111 DeleteThis @psu.edu> schreef:

>>Anyway, with a fast connection, i can send him about 100gig of
>>nice ass.
>>Would be nice. The ass.

> Hmmm. Tell me more about this thing called ass.

Okay.
Actually, i wrote a song, entirely dedicated to the wonderfull black womens
ass.
Here goes, and i want this entire group to sing out loud (you too, Will )


*rap*
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up tough
Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got
Make Me so horney
Ooh, rump of smooth skin
You say you wanna get in my benz
Well use me use me cuz you aint that average groupy

I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She's Sweat,Wet, got it goin like a turbo vette

I'm tired of magazines
Saying flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back

So Fellas (yeah) Fellas(yeah)
Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
Baby got back

(LA face with Oakland booty)

I like'em round and big
And when I'm throwin a gig
I just can't help myself
I'm actin like an animal
Now here's my scandal

I wanna get you home
And UH, double up UH UH
I aint talkin bout playboy
Cuz silicone parts were made for toys
I wannem real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mixalot's in trouble
Beggin for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knockin these bimbos walkin like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sistas
I wanna get with ya
I won't cus or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna --
Til the break of dawn
Baby Got it goin on
Alot of pimps won't like this song
Cuz them punks lie to hit it and quit it
But I'd rather stay and play
Cuz I'm long and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on

So ladies (yeah), Ladies (yeah)
Do you wanna roll in my Mercedes (yeah)
Then turn around
Stick it out
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back

(LA face with the Oakland booty)

Yeah baby
When it comes to females
Cosmo ain't got nothin to do with my selection
36-24-36
Only if she's 5'3"

So your girlfriend throws a Honda
Playin workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that hard role
And tell you that the butt ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that
Cuz your waste is small and your curves are kickin
And I'm thinkin bout stickin
To the beanpole dames in the magazines
You aint it miss thing
Give me a sista I can't resist her
Red beans and rice did miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
Cuz his girls were on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And pulled up quick to get with 'em
So ladies if the butt is round
And you wanna triple X throw down
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT and kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back

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(Msg. 75) Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:48 am
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:15:56 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl>
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>"John Hanson" <jhanson RemoveThis @northernlinks.com> schreef:
>
>>>This type of squat impresses me a whole lot more then a PL sqaut, with
>>>that
>>>typical wide stance, feet 3 feet apart, a belt that could strangle an
>>>elephant and knee wraps so thight that these guys walk like ducks before
>>>they made it to the bar. This guy didnt use any of the above.
>
>> I can squat more with a narrow stance than a wide stance if I'm not
>> using any gear at all, including a belt.
>
>I believe you, but thats weird...

It due to the way I've been training. Hell, I did nothing but front
squat for 2 months last year.

>Most Plers use a wide stance and there is more action in the hip then in the
>knee joint.
>At least it apears to be that way...
>
You'll find IPF lifters generally squat narrower than most other feds
due to having to squat deeper to get a squat passed. The narrower the
stance, the easier it is to hit depth. Plus, we have to walk out our
squats so it makes it much harder to get really wide when setting up.
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