why do football players do power cleans?

Dnia 2006-12-02 Curt napisa³(a):
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> Dnia 2006-12-02 Curt napisa³(a):
>
> Condolences on the injury.

Small thing. Just annoying, because it slows me down on fixing the
most important part of the lift. I can't improve without improving
my weakest link, which is injured now. Still, no biggie.

>> BTW - 1127R is sort of "code" understood by other gixxerheads. It
>> pertains gsxr1100, models from K to N.
>
> Ahhh! Okay. I bought a jacket from a former co-worker who owned a
> GSX-R600, but that's about as close as I've ever gotten to a Suzuki.
> Awesome bikes to be sure, of course. I'll leave the Sport bikes to you,
> though. Very content around 70 mph or so with the occasional burst of
> 90. The fastest (and probably most foolish) speed I've reached was 110.
> By contrast - and according to Wiki - a turbocharged Hayabusa has hit
> "261 mph (420 km/h) as a top measured speed." Yowza!

First bike which broke 200 mph barrier was "my" gixxer. Also
turbocharged. Compared to Harley it might look like a high tech, but
in reality it's just an old bike, however I'll never sell it all the
same.

>> > Why surprisingly. Plenty of skinny guys have mightymighty tendons of
>> > steel.
>>
>> According to some, if your deadlift is big you must be big too.
>> Deadlifts will make you big, you know.
>
> The older I get the more I realize there are few absolutes.

If you took a look at the backs of both guys, their comparable numbers
wouldn't look like such an absurd. Small guy has big traps and spinal
erectors, big guy has none of it. Well, not much, that's for sure.

>> He was 280 lbs in this picture. He will probably gain some more, as he
>> put more focus on lower body recently (I don't follow his blog, but
>> last time I looked, he was shooting at 300lbs mark), but I don't think that
>> he'll get much bigger upper body. He's quite huge already, IMHO. Oh, and he
>> claims to be perfectly natural too.
>
> Big guy. And who knows on the natural. I tend to trust people on their
> word.

I do tend to trust him on this too. It's just that I don't know if
what he says is true or not. Could be true, or it could be that he
took a cycle or two in his life and "forgot" to mention it. He's dutch
by birth and visits Amsterdam on a regular basis. Depending on what
kind of person he is (which I don't know, because I don't follow his
writings to any extent) he might stretch the truth a bit too.

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Dnia 2006-12-02 DZ napisa³(a):
> Curt <curtjames.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>>> My motorcycle's dry weight is about that. Ever try lifting a
>>>> Harley completely off the ground?
>>>
>>> No, but my gsxr1100 weights similarly.
>
> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?

Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
redundancy.

>> Ahhh! Okay. I bought a jacket from a former co-worker who owned a
>> GSX-R600, but that's about as close as I've ever gotten to a Suzuki.
>> Awesome bikes to be sure, of course.
>
> My biggest beef about motorcycles is that they don't come with side
> impact airbags, so you HAVE TO grow those love handles like most
> bikers on the road.

It's hard to fit big gut on a sport bike. Tank gets in the way.

>> I'll leave the Sport bikes to you, though.
>
> I'll leave "Sports" to y'all when it comes to any kind of
> transportation. I've been driving a 3.5L Altima for some time and came
> to the conclusion that even that is too much. I've never been in a
> situation when I wished I had more pickup than a V4 Camry. Sports
> suspension? - it just boils down to noise, jolting, and more frequent
> tire replacement.

Sport is about higher speed. If you never use advantages of suspension
and higher power of an engine, they become disadvantages. I'm not crazy
about sportish stuff on public roads too. My bike looks sporty, but in
reality it's not a sport bike. Well, at least not in Europe.

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In article <ekukdv$9nv$1@inews.gazeta.pl>,
Andrzej Rosa <bakters.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dnia 2006-12-02 DZ napisa³(a):
> > Curt <curtjames.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >>>> My motorcycle's dry weight is about that. Ever try lifting a
> >>>> Harley completely off the ground?
> >>>
> >>> No, but my gsxr1100 weights similarly.
> >
> > Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
>
> Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
> managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
> redundancy.
>
> >> Ahhh! Okay. I bought a jacket from a former co-worker who owned a
> >> GSX-R600, but that's about as close as I've ever gotten to a Suzuki.
> >> Awesome bikes to be sure, of course.
> >
> > My biggest beef about motorcycles is that they don't come with side
> > impact airbags, so you HAVE TO grow those love handles like most
> > bikers on the road.
>
> It's hard to fit big gut on a sport bike. Tank gets in the way.
>
> >> I'll leave the Sport bikes to you, though.
> >
> > I'll leave "Sports" to y'all when it comes to any kind of
> > transportation. I've been driving a 3.5L Altima for some time and came
> > to the conclusion that even that is too much. I've never been in a
> > situation when I wished I had more pickup than a V4 Camry. Sports
> > suspension? - it just boils down to noise, jolting, and more frequent
> > tire replacement.
>
> Sport is about higher speed. If you never use advantages of suspension
> and higher power of an engine, they become disadvantages. I'm not crazy
> about sportish stuff on public roads too. My bike looks sporty, but in
> reality it's not a sport bike. Well, at least not in Europe.

I like the UJM. I drive an old 81 GS1000, which I like just fine. All
I'd really like from the newer bikes is the brakes.

OTOH - I could go for a KTM 990 Adventure, for the motor and suspension.
Or even the new Kwak Versys.

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DZ wrote:
> Curt <curtjames.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?

You should be familiar with those They're awesome; I want one. The
'Adventure' model, of course.


> My biggest beef about motorcycles is that they don't come with side
> impact airbags, so you HAVE TO grow those love handles like most
> bikers on the road.
>
> > I'll leave the Sport bikes to you, though.

Mine is a dual sport bike. Does that count?

And not all bikers have love handles.

How's the genetics going?
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DZ wrote:
> Andrzej Rosa:
> > DZ:

> >> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
> >
> > Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
> > managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
> > redundancy.

What are the remaining bikes? I know the Suzuki, Andrzej, but what are
your other ones?

My first bike was a '75 Honda CB550 which I purchased for $500
(insurance only $50 per year), my second was a brand new '98 XLH883, my
next bike was an '86 CB650SC, another Honda but a Nighthawk, and my
current bike is another XLH993 Sportster. This one's a 2001 model that
I bought from a friend. It has about 20K miles on it now. I put 10K on
my first Harley in a year's time.

> I rode a motorcycle only once. Actually a girl was driving it, with me
> on the back seat. It was during a summer USSR student work on a state
> farm, aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovkhoz (I liked going to
> those, although it was a kind of slavery). A high-up farm official
> owned the bike. He was at least twice our age, and had the hots for
> that girl.

Similar story. Girl half my age, and had the hots for my *motorcycle*.
(Not a bad thing.)

> So, as a girl would do, she asked him to give her his bike for an
> evening, to ride it with ME. We drove around, and then on our way back
> she decided to show off her skills by driving through a narrow bridge
> over a small, chin-deep river. The bridge was shaky, made for walking
> only. I knew that it couldn't possibly end well, and indeed we fell
> from the middle of the bridge into the river. I was happy to find out
> that we didn't break our necks. As we were dragging the motorcycle
> through the mud, the paedo official-with-the-hots appeared on the
> river bank with a flash light. I felt kind of sorry for him.

Ouch.

There was water at our destination, but I'm happy to say that we did
not dump the bike into it. )

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/PGF2004/

So, DZ, the ride into the river put you off motorcycles for good? S

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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Dnia 2006-12-04 Curt napisa³(a):
> > DZ wrote:
> >> Andrzej Rosa:
> >> > DZ:
> >
> >> >> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
> >> >
> >> > Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
> >> > managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
> >> > redundancy.
> >
> > What are the remaining bikes? I know the Suzuki, Andrzej, but what are
> > your other ones?
>
> They aren't all mine. One should use some of diffused sets logic to
> solve property rights, but fully mine is gixxer, and my bro claims that
> both Urals are also mine. I had before Suzuki Inazuma GSX750 which I
> gave to my bro later, and which we sold now (hopefully, because it's
> not finalized yet). My bro also has Suzuki Bandit 1200, but with my
> Busa front. Well, we get along fine, as can be seen.

Yes, it seems so. Excellent! Thanks for listing the bikes. They'll make
interesting Google topics. Although I'm not a wrench, I'm always
interesting in taking a look at bikes.

> > My first bike was a '75 Honda CB550 which I purchased for $500
> > (insurance only $50 per year), my second was a brand new '98 XLH883, my
> > next bike was an '86 CB650SC, another Honda but a Nighthawk, and my
> > current bike is another XLH993 Sportster. This one's a 2001 model that
> > I bought from a friend. It has about 20K miles on it now. I put 10K on
> > my first Harley in a year's time.
>
> If I had to ride Harley, I'd get a Sportster too.

They're light and fast and the Sporty has the greatest lean angle of
all the Harleys, however I am not a knee dragger. No.

> Is your 993 overbored or is it some model I'm not aware of?

Well, the "another" attached to the XLH993 above should've been a clue
that it was a typo, however I must confess that, yeah, it is a typo! (I
am chagrined.)

Although they did have 1000cc Sporties and I could easily have the 883
punched to 1200, but I'm content with the power the bike has stock.
Regardless, there's no 993 except in my post. )

> [...]
> > There was water at our destination, but I'm happy to say that we did
> > not dump the bike into it. )
>
> If you managed to wet something other, you wouldn't post her pictures
> on the net.

Iirc, I believe the Andrzej response would be "What?" But I may be
misattributing that. Certainly, i LOVE my Sportster.

> > http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/PGF2004/
> >
> > So, DZ, the ride into the river put you off motorcycles for good? S

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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DZ <20231 DeleteThis @1776612034.85245154.4608.18001.26250> wrote:

>Andrzej Rosa:
>> DZ:
>>> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
>>
>> Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
>> managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
>> redundancy.
>
>I rode a motorcycle only once. Actually a girl was driving it, with me
>on the back seat. It was during a summer USSR student work on a state
>farm, aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovkhoz (I liked going to
>those, although it was a kind of slavery).

Do all of those still exist, or have some been re-privatized?
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Dnia 2006-12-04 DZ napisa³(a):
> Andrzej Rosa:
>> DZ:
>>> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
>>
>> Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
>> managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
>> redundancy.
>
> I rode a motorcycle only once. Actually a girl was driving it, with me
> on the back seat. It was during a summer USSR student work on a state
> farm, aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovkhoz (I liked going to
> those, although it was a kind of slavery). A high-up farm official
> owned the bike. He was at least twice our age, and had the hots for
> that girl.
>
> So, as a girl would do, she asked him to give her his bike for an
> evening, to ride it with ME. We drove around, and then on our way back
> she decided to show off her skills by driving through a narrow bridge
> over a small, chin-deep river. The bridge was shaky, made for walking
> only. I knew that it couldn't possibly end well, and indeed we fell
> from the middle of the bridge into the river. I was happy to find out
> that we didn't break our necks. As we were dragging the motorcycle
> through the mud, the paedo official-with-the-hots appeared on the
> river bank with a flash light. I felt kind of sorry for him.

Nice girl!

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DZ <10434 DeleteThis @152791377.2099823198.5003.27809.22591> wrote:

>JMW <jmwilliams DeleteThis @enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>> DZ wrote:
>>> Andrzej Rosa:
>>>> DZ:
>>>>> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
>>>>
>>>> Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
>>>> managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
>>>> redundancy.
>>>
>>>I rode a motorcycle only once. Actually a girl was driving it, with me
>>>on the back seat. It was during a summer USSR student work on a state
>>>farm, aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovkhoz (I liked going to
>>>those, although it was a kind of slavery).
>>
>> Do all of those still exist, or have some been re-privatized?
>
>Many are still called "sovkhoz" or "kolkhoz" but they aren't state
>owned. There is a law instituted in early 90s in Russia, preventing
>the federal and local government from being a part of those.

So who runs them? Some Russian version of ADM?
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Curt wrote:
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> > ......and my bro claims that
> > both Urals are also mine. I had before Suzuki Inazuma GSX750 which I
> > gave to my bro later, and which we sold now (hopefully, because it's
> > not finalized yet). My bro also has Suzuki Bandit 1200, but with my
> > Busa front. Well, we get along fine, as can be seen.

TWO Urals?? Okay, now I'm really jealous.


> > > My first bike was a '75 Honda CB550 which I purchased for $500
> > > (insurance only $50 per year), my second was a brand new '98 XLH883, my
> > > next bike was an '86 CB650SC, another Honda but a Nighthawk, and my
> > > current bike is another XLH993 Sportster. This one's a 2001 model that
> > > I bought from a friend. It has about 20K miles on it now. I put 10K on
> > > my first Harley in a year's time.
> >
> > If I had to ride Harley, I'd get a Sportster too.
>
> They're light and fast and the Sporty has the greatest lean angle of
> all the Harleys, however I am not a knee dragger. No.

But it took HD how long to add FI?
And no matter, most of them are still clumsy. After riding a sport/dual
sport bike after a cruiser, I'll never go back. Only a few of the new
'hybrids' (or the old 'naked' "Sportster) are appealing any longer (to
me). If it's speed you're after, the cruisers won't cut it. Too much
chrome


> > > So, DZ, the ride into the river put you off motorcycles for good? S

For that, nothing beats the BMW1200GS.
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Dnia 2006-12-04 Curt napisa³(a):
> DZ wrote:
>> Andrzej Rosa:
>> > DZ:
>
>> >> Is Ural your second motorcycle then?
>> >
>> > Together with my bro we have 5 bikes, two of which are Urals. We
>> > managed to sell one bike this weekend, so there will be a bit less
>> > redundancy.
>
> What are the remaining bikes? I know the Suzuki, Andrzej, but what are
> your other ones?

They aren't all mine. One should use some of diffused sets logic to
solve property rights, but fully mine is gixxer, and my bro claims that
both Urals are also mine. I had before Suzuki Inazuma GSX750 which I
gave to my bro later, and which we sold now (hopefully, because it's
not finalized yet). My bro also has Suzuki Bandit 1200, but with my
Busa front. Well, we get along fine, as can be seen.

> My first bike was a '75 Honda CB550 which I purchased for $500
> (insurance only $50 per year), my second was a brand new '98 XLH883, my
> next bike was an '86 CB650SC, another Honda but a Nighthawk, and my
> current bike is another XLH993 Sportster. This one's a 2001 model that
> I bought from a friend. It has about 20K miles on it now. I put 10K on
> my first Harley in a year's time.

If I had to ride Harley, I'd get a Sportster too. Is your 993
overbored or is it some model I'm not aware of?

[...]
> There was water at our destination, but I'm happy to say that we did
> not dump the bike into it. )

If you managed to wet something other, you wouldn't post her pictures
on the net.

> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/PGF2004/
>
> So, DZ, the ride into the river put you off motorcycles for good? S

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