When doing dumbell bench, how far to lower weights?

In article <Xns9676A02EE77FDhughrbeyeracmorg.RemoveThis@130.81.64.196>,
Hugh Beyer <beyerxyzzy.RemoveThis@acm.org> wrote:

[Avoiding exercise-induced headache]

>It's also worth playing with different lifts, different order of lifts, etc.

If you start by doing neck exercises with heavy weights, you might
keep yourself safe: your neck muscles won't be strong enough to pull
your head wrong when you clench them later in the workout.

Seth
--
Who cares? Shut up and lift. -- Watson (the pencil neck) Davis

In article <Omelet-72EB9B.20472514062005.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <Omelet.TakeThisOut@brokenegz.com> wrote:
>In article <4ZCdndMXqfLU4jLfRVn-og.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
> "JimR" <jremick@comcast> wrote:
>
>> My body is more agreeable to heavy weights after I have at least 15 minutes
>> of hard cardio. This goes against everything ive heard..but it works for me.

><smiles> That's amusing to me as I've been reading a LOT lately about
>NOT doing cardio before lifting as well!
>
>I do at least 20 minutes on the bike or stairmaster prior to lifting,
>and them some light stretching.
>
>Both of those done prior to lifting are supposed to be detrimental to
>strength gains,

A light warmup is fine; ditto light stretching. Intense stretching
definitely weakens you, and intense cardio can take too much out of
you.

>YMMV I guess? <shrugs>

Always.

Seth
--
Who cares? Shut up and lift. -- Watson (the pencil neck) Davis