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Prisoner at War

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:17 am
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Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
Why?

No matter how hard you work out your arms, they'll never be as big as
your legs, because the muscles involved are different types, "white"
and "red" fiber??

Some muscles -- like the delts or calves -- are shaped even more by
genetics than by training compared to other muscles, like biceps and
triceps?

Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)? Some muscles
-- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be worked
on every day?

Are muscles like .mp3 players: they never really go totally out,
there's always some energy left, but they will stop working
nonetheless, at a certain point, while reserving just enough energy
for "household chores" (in the case of .mp3 players, they stop playing
music but have enough juice left to maintain the time and date and
display a message that they're outta juice; in the case of muscles,
they will not lift another rep, but still have juice to pick up a
solid gold bar if one were around)???

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:00 am
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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> schreef:

> Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
> with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)?

The abs are usually trained with low intensity.

> Some muscles -- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be
> worked
> on every day?

Try 85% 1RM for multiple sets and see what happens.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:25 am
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On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
> Why?

Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
Calves, Its either you got it or you don't (but let's just hope that's
not the case, coz im working hard on it Smile )

> No matter how hard you work out your arms, they'll never be as big as
> your legs, because the muscles involved are different types, "white"
> and "red" fiber??

I don't know why. But just thinking my arms as big as my legs make me
freak out. lol

>
> Some muscles -- like the delts or calves -- are shaped even more by
> genetics than by training compared to other muscles, like biceps and
> triceps?

Nope. my delts before are freakin weak and small. but with a years
of experience you'll developed that knowledge on how to properly train
them. now i get most of the praise a bout my delts than other guys at
my gym. =)

> Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
> with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)? Some muscles
> -- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be worked
> on every day?

I'm not sure, but there are people who doesnt directly work fores but
still got this huge fores.

> Are muscles like .mp3 players: they never really go totally out,
> there's always some energy left, but they will stop working
> nonetheless, at a certain point, while reserving just enough energy
> for "household chores" (in the case of .mp3 players, they stop playing
> music but have enough juice left to maintain the time and date and
> display a message that they're outta juice; in the case of muscles,
> they will not lift another rep, but still have juice to pick up a
> solid gold bar if one were around)???

once the range of motion had come short then you'll know you had
enough..
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:57 pm
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In news:1180355155.059316.226990@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
VinCe <sweet_rusky29.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> typed:
> On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
>> Why?
>
> Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
> Calves, Its either you got it or you don't (but let's just hope that's
> not the case, coz im working hard on it Smile )
>
>> No matter how hard you work out your arms, they'll never be as big as
>> your legs, because the muscles involved are different types, "white"
>> and "red" fiber??
>
> I don't know why. But just thinking my arms as big as my legs make me
> freak out. lol
>
>>
>> Some muscles -- like the delts or calves -- are shaped even more by
>> genetics than by training compared to other muscles, like biceps and
>> triceps?
>
> Nope. my delts before are freakin weak and small. but with a years
> of experience you'll developed that knowledge on how to properly train
> them.

I can bypass your years of knowledge.

3 sets of heavy d/bell presses
3 sets of bent over raises

QED

> now i get most of the praise a bout my delts than other guys at
> my gym. =)
>
>> Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
>> with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)? Some muscles
>> -- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be worked
>> on every day?
>
> I'm not sure, but there are people who doesnt directly work fores but
> still got this huge fores.
>
>> Are muscles like .mp3 players: they never really go totally out,
>> there's always some energy left, but they will stop working
>> nonetheless, at a certain point, while reserving just enough energy
>> for "household chores" (in the case of .mp3 players, they stop
>> playing music but have enough juice left to maintain the time and
>> date and display a message that they're outta juice; in the case of
>> muscles, they will not lift another rep, but still have juice to
>> pick up a solid gold bar if one were around)???
>
> once the range of motion had come short then you'll know you had
> enough..



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the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:15 am
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On May 29, 1:57 am, "Bully" <bull....RemoveThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> Innews:1180355155.059316.226990@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> VinCe <sweet_rusk....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
> >> Why?
>
> > Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
> > Calves, Its either you got it or you don't (but let's just hope that's
> > not the case, coz im working hard on it Smile )
>
> >> No matter how hard you work out your arms, they'll never be as big as
> >> your legs, because the muscles involved are different types, "white"
> >> and "red" fiber??
>
> > I don't know why. But just thinking my arms as big as my legs make me
> > freak out. lol
>
> >> Some muscles -- like the delts or calves -- are shaped even more by
> >> genetics than by training compared to other muscles, like biceps and
> >> triceps?
>
> > Nope. my delts before are freakin weak and small. but with a years
> > of experience you'll developed that knowledge on how to properly train
> > them.
>
> I can bypass your years of knowledge.
>
> 3 sets of heavy d/bell presses
> 3 sets of bent over raises
>
> QED
>
>
>
>
>
> > now i get most of the praise a bout my delts than other guys at
> > my gym. =)
>
> >> Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
> >> with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)? Some muscles
> >> -- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be worked
> >> on every day?
>
> > I'm not sure, but there are people who doesnt directly work fores but
> > still got this huge fores.
>
> >> Are muscles like .mp3 players: they never really go totally out,
> >> there's always some energy left, but they will stop working
> >> nonetheless, at a certain point, while reserving just enough energy
> >> for "household chores" (in the case of .mp3 players, they stop
> >> playing music but have enough juice left to maintain the time and
> >> date and display a message that they're outta juice; in the case of
> >> muscles, they will not lift another rep, but still have juice to
> >> pick up a solid gold bar if one were around)???
>
> > once the range of motion had come short then you'll know you had
> > enough..
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars:http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah sure, You can, IN your dreams. Its ok to boast sweetie, you
ain't got a physique to boot. Just trolling around the net pretending
to be a bodybuilder. nice try, but not close. Your knowledge failed
you. Go back to school.

be proud, it means you can be accelerated to grade 3 though =)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:21 am
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On May 29, 1:57 am, "Bully" <bull... RemoveThis @proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> Innews:1180355155.059316.226990@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> VinCe <sweet_rusk... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> typed:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
> >> Why?
>
> > Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
> > Calves, Its either you got it or you don't (but let's just hope that's
> > not the case, coz im working hard on it Smile )
>
> >> No matter how hard you work out your arms, they'll never be as big as
> >> your legs, because the muscles involved are different types, "white"
> >> and "red" fiber??
>
> > I don't know why. But just thinking my arms as big as my legs make me
> > freak out. lol
>
> >> Some muscles -- like the delts or calves -- are shaped even more by
> >> genetics than by training compared to other muscles, like biceps and
> >> triceps?
>
> > Nope. my delts before are freakin weak and small. but with a years
> > of experience you'll developed that knowledge on how to properly train
> > them.
>
> I can bypass your years of knowledge.
>
> 3 sets of heavy d/bell presses
> 3 sets of bent over raises
>
> QED
>
>
>
>
>
> > now i get most of the praise a bout my delts than other guys at
> > my gym. =)
>
> >> Some muscles -- like abs -- recover faster and so should be exercised
> >> with very short rest periods (mere seconds, like ten)? Some muscles
> >> -- like those digital flexors worked by wrist curls -- can be worked
> >> on every day?
>
> > I'm not sure, but there are people who doesnt directly work fores but
> > still got this huge fores.
>
> >> Are muscles like .mp3 players: they never really go totally out,
> >> there's always some energy left, but they will stop working
> >> nonetheless, at a certain point, while reserving just enough energy
> >> for "household chores" (in the case of .mp3 players, they stop
> >> playing music but have enough juice left to maintain the time and
> >> date and display a message that they're outta juice; in the case of
> >> muscles, they will not lift another rep, but still have juice to
> >> pick up a solid gold bar if one were around)???
>
> > once the range of motion had come short then you'll know you had
> > enough..
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars:http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I can sense that you had a heart bypass, am sorry for you. Stop the
beer pop.

Buli
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sees
the difficulty in every difficulty." Sir Bully No More "
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:07 pm
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John M. Williams wrote:
[...]

> I seem to recall you calling Curt a
> "good bodybuilder."

Cross-posting? Way to go, Em. Way to represent
misc.fitness.weights. ;o) Some actually consider cross-posting a troll-
like activity. Gee, you'd think a guy like you would want to steer as
far away from all things troll as you possibly could.

Whatever. I'm sure alt.sport.bodybuilding, alt.sport.weightlifting,
alt.fitness.weights, and sci.bio.misc are simply fascinated by your
recollections.

Otoh, it's my opinion that your posting about someone you say you have
kill filed is a cowardly thing to do. No surprise, naturally.

Anyway, thanks for the publicity. Stay tuned for my soon-to-be-
released and aforementioned eBook, "curt james' ultra-hardcore leg
curl workout"! It's going to be a BLAST!

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:42 pm
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VinCe <sweet_rusky29.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Its ok to boast sweetie, you
>ain't got a physique to boot.
>Just trolling around the net pretending
>to be a bodybuilder.

I seem to recall you calling Curt a "good bodybuilder." I think Bully
can clear that bar rather easily.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:36 am
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In news:rbvr53hsv1krqkj6u68sjesf4p8jq89p32@4ax.com,
JMW <jmwilliams.TakeThisOut@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> typed:
> VinCe <sweet_rusky29.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Its ok to boast sweetie, you
>> ain't got a physique to boot.
>> Just trolling around the net pretending
>> to be a bodybuilder.
>
> I seem to recall you calling Curt a "good bodybuilder." I think Bully
> can clear that bar rather easily.

I could also clean that bar Wink !

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:43 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:52 am
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On Jun 4, 5:58 pm, Tom Anderson <t... RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2007, VinCe wrote:
> > On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
> >> Why?
>
> > Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
>
> O rly? I'd say a big back, lats at least, was pretty noticeable, provided
> you ever look in a mirror or scratch your armpits.


well, can you scratch your armpits while doing lat pulldown? oh
man...


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:58 am
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On Mon, 28 May 2007, VinCe wrote:

> On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
>> Why?
>
> Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.

O rly? I'd say a big back, lats at least, was pretty noticeable, provided
you ever look in a mirror or scratch your armpits.

tom

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, VinCe wrote:

> On Jun 4, 5:58 pm, Tom Anderson <t....DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2007, VinCe wrote:
>>> On May 24, 1:17 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Are there really some muscles which are harder to train? Which ones?
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Back, most people neglect working it since they can;t see it working.
>>
>> O rly? I'd say a big back, lats at least, was pretty noticeable, provided
>> you ever look in a mirror or scratch your armpits.
>
> well, can you scratch your armpits while doing lat pulldown?

Yeah - WITH MY DICK!

Not really.

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