Did deadlifts for the first time

Stromata wrote:
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.
>
>
Form is the vital thing. You're better off with less weight and perfect
form than using more than you can handle.

-paul
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"Stromata" writes:

> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Stromata" writes:
>>
>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>
>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>
>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
>> to start somewhere.
>>
>> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
>> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
>> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
>> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
>> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>>
>> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
>> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
>> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
>> much weight.
>>
>> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
>> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
>> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
>> deadlift a lot more than that.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Jason
>
> No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable
> taken off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?

He's not a pocket Hercules if that is what you mean.

The deadlift (done properly) allows you to move a lot of weight. I
don't even consider myself an intermediate lifter and I can lift nearly
double my body weight (I weigh 230 lbs.).

Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local Wal-Mart
(or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking the
shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift a
50 lbs. box up off of the ground.

Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time worrying
about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV.
Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is clearly insane.
That being the case I happen to believe that most people seriously
underestimate how much they can lift safely. In fact, it is my
completely unscientific opinion that strength training (and specifically
deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof your back. You just
have to lift enough weight.

Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.

It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that you
would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.

Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
you keep adding weight to the bar.

Jason
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"Stromata" schreef:

> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs

Raw or with gear?

--
Pete
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On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Uncle Bob" wrote:
> "Stromata" schreef:
>
> > 1st set - 40lbs
> > 2nd set - 40lbs
> > 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> Raw or with gear?
>
> --
> Pete

BAD Pete.

Stephen
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Jason Earl wrote:
> "Stromata" writes:
>
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>
> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
> to start somewhere.
>
> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>
> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
> much weight.
>
> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
> deadlift a lot more than that.
>
> Good luck,
> Jason

No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable taken
off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?
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"Stromata" wrote in message
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Stromata" writes:
>>
>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>
>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>
>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone
>> has
>> to start somewhere.
>>
>> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
>> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
>> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
>> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
>> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>>
>> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
>> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a
>> bit
>> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
>> much weight.
>>
>> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
>> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
>> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
>> deadlift a lot more than that.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Jason
>
> No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable
> taken off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?

I'll echo what Jason said. If you're finding that weight challenging,
then you would benefit from some deadlift instruction. Deadlifting
isn't very popular these days - my theory is that it's hard work and
people don't want to work hard.

If you'd like to see the book/DVD I learned from, a link is below:

http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm

Best of luck to you. FWIW, I'm about 5' 7" and 150 lbs. and I
deadlifted 350+ lbs. at a meet a year or two ago. You can do it, too.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:43:34 -0800 (PST), Stephen Mulholland
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Uncle Bob" wrote:
>> "Stromata" schreef:
>>
>> > 1st set - 40lbs
>> > 2nd set - 40lbs
>> > 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> Raw or with gear?
>>
>> --
>> Pete
>
>BAD Pete.
>
>Stephen

Hey Stephen, how the hell are you?
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:41 GMT, "Stromata" wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>1st set - 40lbs
>2nd set - 40lbs
>3rd set - 50lbs
>
>I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
>this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
>In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
>weight that challenges me right now.
>
I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.
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Jason Earl wrote:
>
> Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
> store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
> barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local Wal-Mart
> (or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking the
> shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift
> a 50 lbs. box up off of the ground.
>
Ah the blue-collar worker analogy. Well, it's true those guy have to lift
heavy loads, and retire early with broken backs. Not the best example for a
healthy back for life. I'm a desk jockey by trade, and I don't need to be
able to regularly lift loads heavier then myself.

> Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time
> worrying about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play
> one on TV. Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is
> clearly insane. That being the case I happen to believe that most
> people seriously underestimate how much they can lift safely. In
> fact, it is my completely unscientific opinion that strength training
> (and specifically deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof
> your back. You just have to lift enough weight.
>
Yeah I would be insane listening to you for advice on protecting my back. I
think one should err on the side of caution when it comes to the back. Too
many stories is herniated disks on bodybuilding forums for my liking. Lots
of macho posturing on real heavy deadlifts, and not enough of the sad tales
of spinal surgery. I'll dial down the macho intensity and keep my back,
thank you very much.
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Jason Earl wrote:
>
> Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
> probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.
>
I can curl 50lb barbell no problem. Only 25lbs dumbbell, which makes sense,
dividing by half.

> It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
> straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that
> you would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.
>
Yeah I'm very paranoid when it comes to keeping my back healthy. I had a
couple of scares in my youth, and I'm pretty careful.

> Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
> you keep adding weight to the bar.
>
> Jason

I am starting light and keeping it safe. Now when I'm in the middle of a
rep, I'm going full intensity. I just don't see why I should ramp up the
weight fast. If I am struggling with 50lbs, then I should keep doing it
until I master it.
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John Hanson wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:41 GMT, "Stromata" wrote in
> misc.fitness.weights:
>
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>
> I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.

I'm not competing against anyone dumbass.
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"Stromata" wrote in message
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.
>

I do 150# 10-10-10-10 one day a week.

You need to add a little weight every week.
Be sure your hands are turned right and that you pull all the way till you
shoulders are "WAY" back.
Go slow, feel it

Burr
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Burr wrote:
> "Stromata" wrote in message
>
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>
>
> I do 150# 10-10-10-10 one day a week.
>
> You need to add a little weight every week.
> Be sure your hands are turned right and that you pull all the way
> till you shoulders are "WAY" back.
> Go slow, feel it
>
> Burr

Thanks, I'll try to remember to do that next time. I'm going to keep the
40-40-50 and then graduate to 40-50-50 when I feel the 2nd 40lb set isn't
challenging anymore. I really want to take this particular compound slow and
steady.
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