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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:39 pm
Post subject: Getting too fat -- need cutting advice
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I'm currently 6'6" 270 and and have been lifting steadily for 9 months
after a couple years off. I've been bulking for 3 months and have
developed an admirable gut. I was gonna wait till the spring to cut but
feel like I'm letting it get away from me and would like to start now. I
want to get down to around 240 and of course would like to spare as much
muscle as possible. Based on various things I've read, I'm thinking
along the lines of 3000-3500 cal/day; 30% from protein, 45% carbs & 25%
fat. Does this sound reasonable or should I adjust?
I should also mention that I'm planning on adding 30 min cardio 2x/week.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:32 pm
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On Nov 14, 11:39 am, "Nate C." <nxcxoxnxnxox... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Based on various things I've read, I'm thinking
> along the lines of 3000-3500 cal/day; 30% from protein, 45% carbs & 25%
> fat. Does this sound reasonable or should I adjust?
Do you know how many calories you eat now to just maintain your weight?
Could be less than 3000 ya know.
For a bit of fatloss plus muscle maintainence probably 10x your body
weight might be a better starting point.
> I should also mention that I'm planning on adding 30 min cardio 2x/week.
Thats not enough to do any benefit really.
http://www.femalemuscle.com/q_a/question16.htm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:23 pm
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Nate C. wrote:
> I'm currently 6'6" 270 and and have been lifting steadily for 9 months
> after a couple years off. I've been bulking for 3 months and have
> developed an admirable gut. I was gonna wait till the spring to cut
> but feel like I'm letting it get away from me and would like to start
> now. I want to get down to around 240 and of course would like to
> spare as much muscle as possible. Based on various things I've read,
> I'm thinking along the lines of 3000-3500 cal/day; 30% from protein,
> 45% carbs & 25% fat. Does this sound reasonable or should I adjust?
Sounds sensible to me.
>
> I should also mention that I'm planning on adding 30 min cardio
> 2x/week.
For what purpose?
>
> Thanks.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:36 pm
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Bully wrote:
> Nate C. wrote:
>> I'm currently 6'6" 270 and and have been lifting steadily for 9 months
>> after a couple years off. I've been bulking for 3 months and have
>> developed an admirable gut. I was gonna wait till the spring to cut
>> but feel like I'm letting it get away from me and would like to start
>> now. I want to get down to around 240 and of course would like to
>> spare as much muscle as possible. Based on various things I've read,
>> I'm thinking along the lines of 3000-3500 cal/day; 30% from protein,
>> 45% carbs & 25% fat. Does this sound reasonable or should I adjust?
>
> Sounds sensible to me.
>> I should also mention that I'm planning on adding 30 min cardio
>> 2x/week.
>
> For what purpose?
Well frankly I just dangled that out there to see if that would serve
any purpose to burn some fat. But based on your question and joanne's
link, it looks like there might not be much use to it. I figured that
doing _some_ cardio would be better than none. >> Stay informed about: Getting too fat -- need cutting advice |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:03 pm
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Nate C. wrote:
> Bully wrote:
>> Nate C. wrote:
>>> I'm currently 6'6" 270 and and have been lifting steadily for 9
>>> months after a couple years off. I've been bulking for 3 months and
>>> have developed an admirable gut. I was gonna wait till the spring
>>> to cut but feel like I'm letting it get away from me and would like
>>> to start now. I want to get down to around 240 and of course would
>>> like to spare as much muscle as possible. Based on various things
>>> I've read, I'm thinking along the lines of 3000-3500 cal/day; 30%
>>> from protein, 45% carbs & 25% fat. Does this sound reasonable or
>>> should I adjust?
>>
>> Sounds sensible to me.
>>> I should also mention that I'm planning on adding 30 min cardio
>>> 2x/week.
>>
>> For what purpose?
>
> Well frankly I just dangled that out there to see if that would serve
> any purpose to burn some fat. But based on your question and joanne's
> link, it looks like there might not be much use to it. I figured that
> doing _some_ cardio would be better than none.
Not for fat burning, nope. It might burn a few add'l kcals.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:29 am
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"Bully" <bully1 RemoveThis @proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:
>>> For what purpose?
>>
>> Well frankly I just dangled that out there to see if that would serve
>> any purpose to burn some fat. But based on your question and joanne's
>> link, it looks like there might not be much use to it. I figured that
>> doing _some_ cardio would be better than none.
> Not for fat burning, nope. It might burn a few add'l kcals.
So what?
I mean, okay, most people never enter that "fat burning zone." But you STILL
create a caloric deficit by burning whatever it is that you burn. Something
gets burned.
And what you eat after that replaces what you burned. And you slowly lose
fat.
Cardio still burns more calories then intense sessions with heavy weights. A
set takes me about 15 seconds. If i do 30 sets in 2 hours that is still only
7 1/2 minutes time under tension.
And thats NOT much calories.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:29 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:29 am
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Pete wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1.TakeThisOut@proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:
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>>>> For what purpose?
>>>
>>> Well frankly I just dangled that out there to see if that would
>>> serve any purpose to burn some fat. But based on your question and
>>> joanne's link, it looks like there might not be much use to it. I
>>> figured that doing _some_ cardio would be better than none.
>
>> Not for fat burning, nope. It might burn a few add'l kcals.
>
> So what?
>
> I mean, okay, most people never enter that "fat burning zone." But
> you STILL create a caloric deficit by burning whatever it is that you
> burn. Something gets burned.
>
> And what you eat after that replaces what you burned. And you slowly
> lose fat.
>
> Cardio still burns more calories then intense sessions with heavy
> weights. A set takes me about 15 seconds. If i do 30 sets in 2 hours
> that is still only 7 1/2 minutes time under tension.
>
> And thats NOT much calories.
>
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> Pete
Don't disagree with any of that. However, most people seem to think that
cardio is some magic bullet that will change them from a fat-bastard into
whatever it is they want to be.
BTW: my BMI is 31; I am therefore officially OBESE.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:21 pm
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"Bully" <bully1.RemoveThis@proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:
>> Cardio still burns more calories then intense sessions with heavy
>> weights. A set takes me about 15 seconds. If i do 30 sets in 2 hours
>> that is still only 7 1/2 minutes time under tension.
>> And thats NOT much calories.
> Don't disagree with any of that. However, most people seem to think that
> cardio is some magic bullet that will change them from a fat-bastard into
> whatever it is they want to be.
Its more difficult then that, i agree.
For men, a perfect solution is the use of a "low androgenic" steroid for 3-4
months, and go on a low carb/high protein diet.
Also, high doses of HCG were prescribed to men in the past. Works very well,
but i have no idea how.
> BTW: my BMI is 31; I am therefore officially OBESE.
Yup, *clinically* OBESE.
Dont feel bad...
My BMI is still 34. I feel anorexic at 30. At 32 i feel slightly
uncomfortable.
I feel great at 40...
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:10 pm
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"Shute" <Shute.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> schreef:
>>Cardio still burns more calories then intense sessions with heavy weights.
>>A
>>set takes me about 15 seconds. If i do 30 sets in 2 hours that is still
>>only
>>7 1/2 minutes time under tension.
>>And thats NOT much calories.
> Oh oh Pete. Now you opened up a can of worms. Expect floods of
> scientific studies from lazy weightlifters proving your wrong.
The majority of powerlifters are overweight, just like the SHW
weightlifters...
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