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WalkingJohnny

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:42 am
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Hi,

I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
work.

I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat. Is what I'm doing less
effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)? I will still have to
have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
minutes on different machines?

Thanks for any help,
- WJ

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AlbeirtoGuerra

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:42 am
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>I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.>

That is not for fat burning, it's for cardio conditioning. The very
best fat burning exercise is 1 hour of jogging, at a very slow pace.
In this mode your body will burn more calories per hour 24/7, instead
of just for the 20 minutes you did cardio. Even while asleep you'll
burn more cals per hour. Take it from a 400lb man who fights to stay in
a 200lb body, this works, and for me at least nothing else is nearly as
effective.

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RickTheIdiot

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:00 pm
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>You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?

Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>

What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:31 pm
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>So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?>

What RU, some kind of idio... Oh wait, that's me.

Rick The Idiot.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:34 pm
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>So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?>

ALL gyms are full of fags. I went to one, but after the roid crowd got
done looking at my ass in the locker room, I decided I liked free
weights at home better. So as far asc "chics gyms" go, you tell me.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:17 pm
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In article <qupve.4199$oJ.770@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"WalkingJohnny" <blah.RemoveThis@blah.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
> exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
> aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
> work.

Of course. More effort/min. = more energy consumed per minute.
However: I don't know about you, but *I* can't lift weights for 30
minutes or more w/o a break.

>
> I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
> assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.

Define "best." One argument is that aerobic/cardio workout below
your anaerobic threshold is the "best" way. (That's what I
originally learned.) Another is that high-intensity interval
training is the "best" way. Yet another is that building muscle mass
is the "best" way. In truth: Probably the "best" way is what works
for you. For me: That's all three. I do full-body workouts,
followed by at least 30 minutes of cardio, three times a week. One
day a week that cardio is HIIT. Why only one day of HIIT? One
article I read suggested that high-intensity cardio is
counter-productive to muscle gain. So I compromise by doing it only
once-a-week.

A week-ago-Saturday I went wild. After doing pyramids on strength-
training, I did 10 minutes at AT cardio on each of all five machines
Smile. (Treadmill, stepper, rowing, upright stationary bike,
elliptical.) It's good to mix things up on occasion.

> Is what I'm doing less
> effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)?

IIRC, somebody not long ago pointed me to an article that said
"low-intensity" cardio results in elevated energy consumption for
about 1/2-hour following the work-out, whereas HIIT results in
elevated energy consumption for up to six hours. Muscles continue
consuming (more) energy (than fat) indefinitely.

> I will still have to
> have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
> the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
> minutes on different machines?

I do 30 minutes of cardio as 10 minutes on each of three out of five
machines. Some argue it's better to do a continuous work-out on a
single machine than to interrupt it by switching machines. I like to
vary the workout and switching machines helps avoid boredom. I
figure it's better to have a sub-optimal work-out than stop entirely
Wink. I do move from machine-to-machine as quickly as possible. As
often as not, my heart rate is actually higher, when I get to the
next machine, than it was when I left the previous machine.

>
> Thanks for any help,

You're welcome. Be advised that I'm no expert, by far, in these
things. Surely somebody far more qualified than I (not difficult)
will come along with better and more accurate information. They
usually do Smile.

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jseymour.RemoveThis@LinxNet.com | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:20 pm
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<RickTheIdiot DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119808849.310227.58890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand
> >reps?
>
> Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>
>
> What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
> rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.

So it's like the circuit training protocol in a chick gym?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:27 pm
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>You meant to say after they got done doing your ass>

You're the one thinking about it.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:28 pm
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>Yeah, *I* must be stupid.>

We're coming closer to agreeing every minute.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:29 pm
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>Ignore the username and look for the following header:


NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.203.8>

Thanks for the tip. I'll change it pronto. I got this handy little prog
here....
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:37 pm
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>Absolutely correct there Jim...66.31.203.8 is his troll IP address ..in
every posting of his...plus his "gmail.com" domain name. he frequently
changes his nickname, but the gmail.com is the easiest give-away to
spot....>

Yeah, that'll work for you LOLOLOL
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:38 pm
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>1000 reps in 90' = 11 seconds per rep, very slow pace. 1000 in 30' is a bit
more sensible, though I've never done that with weights (bodyweight
squats,
yes).>

Stupidass.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:30 am
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RickTheIdiot.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

>>You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?
>
>
> Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>
>
> What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
> rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.
>

Because I think that going from one exercise to the next constitutes a break and
you don't?

Yeah, *I* must be stupid.

Circuit or 90 exercises? Machines or barbells?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:30 am
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T <T RemoveThis @nothingbut.net> wrote:

>RickTheIdiot@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>You do one set of one exercise for 90 minutes? What is that, a thousand reps?
>>
>>
>> Most people do multiple sets of multiple exercises; hence, breaks.>
>>
>> What are you, stupid? My total body WO is 60 to 90 minutes with no
>> rest. I go from one exercise to the next quickly to keep it aerobic.
>>
>
>Because I think that going from one exercise to the next constitutes a break and
>you don't?
>
>Yeah, *I* must be stupid.
>
>Circuit or 90 exercises? Machines or barbells?

None of the above. It's trolling. Let me make it simple for you ...

Ignore the username and look for the following header:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.203.8

It means "troll." It might also be effective as a killfile string,
though I haven't tried it.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:18 am
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On 2005-06-26, WalkingJohnny <blah.RemoveThis@blah.com> wrote:

> I saw an article in my local paper recently that listed the types of
> exercises and the amount of calories they burn in an hour. 'High Resistance
> aerobics' was first, and weights were second: far above treadmill and bike
> work.

What were the actual numbers ? "Treadmill work" can mean lots of things, but
good luck burning 1000 calories per hour or more doing weights (not that hard
to do on a treadmill or elliptical)

To burn a high number of calories, you need a high sustained power output, and
the easiest way to produce a lot of power for a long time is to mobilise the
larger muscle masses (the ones that are capable of producing a lot of power)
at a submaximal effort (so they can *sustain* that output). That usually means
doing some sort of aerobic exercise that involves the glutes, quads, and hams.
Running, the elliptical, and rowing machine are good choices.

> I did my cardio days (20 mins walk, 20 bike, 20 low-impact stepper) on the
> assumption that it was the best way to burn fat.

Well maybe, except if you're only walking, and strolling up the stepper,
you're probably not working all that hard. If you're walking, do it up a steep
incline, and check your heart rate. You should be near the top of the
so-called "cardio zone" (forget about the "fat burning zone" nonsense)

> Is what I'm doing less
> effective than weight days for losing weight (fat)? I will still have to
> have cardio days to split the weight days, but should I consider changing
> the format of my days, perhaps doing an hour on the stepper instead of 3x20
> minutes on different machines?

The variety may actually make it mentally easier to push the pace on the
different exercises. But you've got to be prepared to do that. A mile only
burns about 150 calories for someone who weighs in at 200lb, so if you only
go one mile in those 20 minutes, you're not going to burn a whole lot, but
if you run it and go 2 miles (which still only requires a modest pace--
10min/mile), you're in the right territory (~900cal/hr or so for a 200lb
runner. If you're lighter, you should be able to run faster!)

Cheers,
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