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"Bully" <bully1 RemoveThis @proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:

>> No, if we're being particular with our words here, then let's say that
>> in the pursuit of a bigger 1RM, 15 rep sets might be optimal for some
>> people some of the time, just not for most people most of the time,
>> and not for our OP at this time.

> Yes, not optimal. But what you said was "doing more than 10 reps on a
> particular exercise won't help your 1RM on that exercise". Which is plain
> wrong.

You are waisting your time, Bully.

If you sets of 12, with, lets say, 200 pounds, i would esimate you would
roughly use 70% of 1RM weight.

After, lets say, 3 years, you pound away 400 pound for 12 reps. Your
strength increased by 200%.

Your 1RM, did NOT increased by 200%, but closer to 160%.

Because an *adaption to 12 reps has taken place*, the weight used for 12
reps is *no longer 70% of 1RM, but closer to 80%*. Because an adaption has
taken place.

So your 1RM increased dramatically, but not optimally.

Do not, i repeat, do NOT try to explain this to Seve.
I would take you so long, i am afraid an adaption would take place.

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Pete

External Since: Oct 04, 2006 Posts: 514

Steve Freides wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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>> Steve Freides wrote:
>>> "Bully" <bully1.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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>>>> Steve Freides wrote:
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>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>> <xyzer.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> schreef:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can bench 135 sixteen times without warming up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sixteen reps IS a warmup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I wrote it, but I
>>>>>> figured I might only be able to bench 14 reps or something if I
>>>>>> warmed up with , say, 115 for 10 reps or so... I dunno probably
>>>>>> not though. ... I could probably still do 15 or 16 since 115
>>>>>> would seem incredibly light since I never do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look at some 1RM calculators now, they won't even accept
>>>>> numbers above 10 reps - smart, that. It's probably a fair
>>>>> generalization to say that doing more than 10 reps on a particular
>>>>> exercise won't help your 1RM on that exercise.
>>>>
>>>> It's a generalisation alright. Whether it's a fair one of not is
>>>> open
>>>> for debate. If I perform 3 set x 15 reps of BP incrementing the
>>>> weight by say 0.5% per week, would my 1RM improve over:
>>>>
>>>> a) 1 month
>>>> b) 6 months
>>>> c) 12 months
>>>> d) none of the above
>>>> e) all of the above
>>>
>>> It all depends on what your weakness(es) is/are. I'm sure it would
>>> help some people,
>>
>> But you said it wouldn't help period.
>
> I said it was a generalization - there is no "period" suggested in a
> generalization, just that it's a good guideline to keep in mind.

To be fair, it was utter bollocks.

>
>>> but for someone who's been doing this sort of rep
>>> range a lot already like our OP, moving to fewer reps per set and
>>> heavier weights is probably the best route to a better 1RM. IOW, if
>>> the 15 rep sets lay some sort of foundation (which is perfectly
>>> possible), he's done that work already and it's time to move on to
>>> the next phase. Certainly a steady diet of 15 rep sets for someone
>>> looking to increase their 1RM isn't the way to go.
>>
>> So what you really meant to say, and it's an important distinction to
>> make, is that it's not optimal doing >10 rep sets !?! Not that it
>> wouldn't help period?
>
> No, if we're being particular with our words here, then let's say that
> in the pursuit of a bigger 1RM, 15 rep sets might be optimal for some
> people some of the time, just not for most people most of the time,
> and not for our OP at this time.

Yes, not optimal. But what you said was "doing more than 10 reps on a
particular exercise won't help your 1RM on that exercise". Which is plain
wrong.

>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
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>> Bully
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>>
>> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
>> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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