YESSSS!!! Christ, but that took a while.....

Curt wrote:
> ephedralover wrote:
> [...]
>
> re Stephen Mulholland's recent 225 lb bench press
>
> > <snip> basked long enough!!
>
> I say he didn't!! ;o)

Ok, I agree.

>
> But, hey, let those of us with sub-225 benches bask vicariously, okay?
> OKAY?
>
> Regardless of all basking, you were - imo - raining on his parade. Just
> a bit.

True, But I am just bustin balls here. Cmon. All in good fun. I wish my
should would allow me try a 225 bench press. Tore the darn thing at the
ballpark a few years back doing one of those fastest pitch radar test.
Stupid.

>
> > And the weight in relation to bench press max
> > needs no height or BF %.
>
> Hmm. That may be true, however I don't hold to that idea as my arms are
> eight-feet long and therefore leverage is my enemy.

I agree totally with this. I am one of the long armed ones. And damn it
really is that much harder when I am pushing the bar an extra 12"
further than my buddies.

>
> You have your 200-pound lifters with 32" sleeves and then you have your
> 200-pound lifters with 42" sleeves. BAH!
>
> > And Im the one who needs to lay off the
> > stimulants?
>
> I know better than to stand between anyone and their caffeine. )

I had a massive migraine this morning. Turns out I hadn't had coffee or
soda in 24 hours. Man I am hooked.

>
> --
> Curt
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Curt wrote:
> ephedralover wrote:
> [...]
>
> re Stephen Mulholland's recent 225 lb bench press
>
> > <snip> basked long enough!!
>
> I say he didn't!! ;o)

Ok, I agree.

>
> But, hey, let those of us with sub-225 benches bask vicariously, okay?
> OKAY?
>
> Regardless of all basking, you were - imo - raining on his parade. Just
> a bit.

True, But I am just bustin balls here. Cmon. All in good fun. I wish my
should would allow me try a 225 bench press. Tore the darn thing at the
ballpark a few years back doing one of those fastest pitch radar test.
Stupid.

>
> > And the weight in relation to bench press max
> > needs no height or BF %.
>
> Hmm. That may be true, however I don't hold to that idea as my arms are
> eight-feet long and therefore leverage is my enemy.

I agree totally with this. I am one of the long armed ones. And damn it
really is that much harder when I am pushing the bar an extra 12"
further than my buddies.

>
> You have your 200-pound lifters with 32" sleeves and then you have your
> 200-pound lifters with 42" sleeves. BAH!
>
> > And Im the one who needs to lay off the
> > stimulants?
>
> I know better than to stand between anyone and their caffeine. )

I had a massive migraine this morning. Turns out I hadn't had coffee or
soda in 24 hours. Man I am hooked.

>
> --
> Curt
 >> Stay informed about: YESSSS!!! Christ, but that took a while..... 

ephedralover wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > ephedralover wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > re Stephen Mulholland's recent 225 lb bench press
> >
> > > <snip> basked long enough!!
> >
> > I say he didn't!! ;o)
>
> Ok, I agree.

Cool.

> > But, hey, let those of us with sub-225 benches bask vicariously, okay?
> > OKAY?
> >
> > Regardless of all basking, you were - imo - raining on his parade. Just
> > a bit.
>
> True, But I am just bustin balls here. Cmon. All in good fun.

Ah, well, then, in an equal example of "good fun" you'd best 'splain
what you meant by "overall strength" to Mr. Mulholland. ;o)

> I wish my should

er

> would allow me try a 225 bench press. Tore the darn thing at the
> ballpark a few years back doing one of those fastest pitch radar test.
> Stupid.

My shoulders aren't the best either. Right one especially.

> > > And the weight in relation to bench press max
> > > needs no height or BF %.
> >
> > Hmm. That may be true, however I don't hold to that idea as my arms are
> > eight-feet long and therefore leverage is my enemy.
>
> I agree totally with this. I am one of the long armed ones. And damn it
> really is that much harder when I am pushing the bar an extra 12"
> further than my buddies.

Makes a difference, I'd say.

> > You have your 200-pound lifters with 32" sleeves and then you have your
> > 200-pound lifters with 42" sleeves. BAH!
> >
> > > And Im the one who needs to lay off the
> > > stimulants?
> >
> > I know better than to stand between anyone and their caffeine. )
>
> I had a massive migraine this morning. Turns out I hadn't had coffee or
> soda in 24 hours. Man I am hooked.

Currently off caffeine.

I stare longingly at the gas 'n go as I drive by on my commute home.

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Stephen Mulholland wrote:
> ephedralover.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Be basked long enough!! And the weight in relation to bench press max
> > needs no height or BF %. And Im the one who needs to lay off the
> > stimulants?
>
> You still haven't answered my question, though. Again - define
> "overall strength".
>
> Stephen

Again, the ephedra has burnt many a neurotransmitter receptors. I meant
relative strength as in having a positive power-to-weight ratio is more
important than absolute strenght.
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> On 30 Nov 2006 11:26:55 -0800, ephedralover.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Do you think power lifters are the top of the health/strength pyramid?
>>Many power lifters are obesely overweight with close to no cardio
>>ability whatsoever.
>
> And there are beautiful models with nearly any bodyfat in extremely
> poor health. Like I said they are all just numbers. How is
> measuring bodyfat a better indication of ones overall health?

Indeed.
Ditto competing BBers, who I understand sometimes cannot even complete their
routines.
Single digit BF% is probably dicey for many people.
Not to mention that bf % is a very difficult thing to measure, w/ poor
reproducibiilty.
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>
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But another case against ephedra.
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>
> Curt wrote:
>> ephedralover wrote:
>>
>> re Stephen Mulholland's recent 225 lb bench press
>>
>> > Great! Now focus on something more important
>> > than numbers. Lowering your body fat and increasing
>> > your overall body strength.
>>
>> Might have wanted to let him bask in a worthy accomplishment a bit
>> longer that that one syllable "Great!" you offered, eph.
>>
>> And, yeah, what if his body fat is zero percent and his squat is 500
>> pounds?
>>
>> > How much do you weigh?
>>
>> What is THAT number without the context of height, body fat percentage,
>> and specific lift numbers?
>>
>> --
>> Curt
>
> Be basked long enough!! And the weight in relation to bench press max
> needs no height or BF %. And Im the one who needs to lay off the
> stimulants?
>
>
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On 30 Nov 2006 04:57:09 -0800, "Stephen Mulholland" <mulhollands.DeleteThis@rocketmail.com>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>
>Got my first 225 lb bench press today. I had hoped to hit that target
>on my 50th birthday next week, and I've made it a week ahead of
>schedule. I'd stalled at about 190 for a few reps, and a 1RM of about
>210, for God knows how long, but a (roughly) four-week wave cycle,
>starting at about 70% 1RM, 2 sets of 5 following a
>140-145-150-145-150-155-150-155-160 etc up to 2 X 5@200 progression,
>benching every day, added the extra 15 lb. Now I know benching every
>day is frowned on by lots of folks here, but it certainly worked for
>me.
>
>Yay the oul' boys!
>
Congratulations!
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Hobbes wrote:
> In article <1164891429.614659.114770.TakeThisOut@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Stephen Mulholland" <mulhollands.TakeThisOut@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Got my first 225 lb bench press today. I had hoped to hit that target
>>on my 50th birthday next week, and I've made it a week ahead of
>>schedule.
>
> Good job!

Good job? That's it? 225 = two wheels. Awesome job! Why I remember
the good old days when lifts in multiples of wheels would merit a trip
to the nearest Krispy Kreme. What's a guy gotta do anymore?

I got the big Five-O coming up in May and I am thinking on trying to
break three wheels for my 50th. I've been doing pretty well in the
bench the last while and I think it may be time I moved up on the 1RM.
It may not be a clean PL lift but I'd really likely to be able to get it
off my chest, so to speak, once and for all. Bench is the one of the
big three I can really push at now. I have limited my squats and deads
to two wheels now and it is pretty unfulfilling but a back condition
forces me to be extra cautious with any spinal compression lifts.

Anyway, congrats AND get yerself a steak, Stephen M.

Stephen N.---> and a beer...
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In article <3nFbh.12186$rv4.1697@edtnps90>,
"Stephen N." <Steelystephen.TakeThisOut@coldmail.com> wrote:

> Hobbes wrote:
> > In article <1164891429.614659.114770.TakeThisOut@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Stephen Mulholland" <mulhollands.TakeThisOut@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Got my first 225 lb bench press today. I had hoped to hit that target
> >>on my 50th birthday next week, and I've made it a week ahead of
> >>schedule.
> >
> > Good job!
>
> Good job? That's it? 225 = two wheels. Awesome job! Why I remember
> the good old days when lifts in multiples of wheels would merit a trip
> to the nearest Krispy Kreme. What's a guy gotta do anymore?
>
> I got the big Five-O coming up in May and I am thinking on trying to
> break three wheels for my 50th. I've been doing pretty well in the
> bench the last while and I think it may be time I moved up on the 1RM.
> It may not be a clean PL lift but I'd really likely to be able to get it
> off my chest, so to speak, once and for all. Bench is the one of the
> big three I can really push at now. I have limited my squats and deads
> to two wheels now and it is pretty unfulfilling but a back condition
> forces me to be extra cautious with any spinal compression lifts.
>
> Anyway, congrats AND get yerself a steak, Stephen M.
>
> Stephen N.---> and a beer...
>

I'd settle for breaking 3 wheels in the C&J. Okay. 3 25 kg wheels would
be even better.

3 red wheels.

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Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> <snip> What matters is that you obviously do not
> reach your goals, which seem to be geared toward
> looking big and muscular, and you constantly blame
> your genetics for your 14" arms or something similar.
[...]

It seems obvious that my self-deprecating humor has you confused.

My goals have included reducing my blood pressure. Achieved. As well as
maintaining a gym schedule. Achieved. My 14-inch arm looks better than
many other arms attached to people my age or younger and so there's
that.

> You won't change it without gaining weight. That simple.
[...]

Not currently my goal. Actually, the opposite is closer to the mark.

> Not just that. It takes systematic effort at increasing your ability
> to tolerate training. It takes time, like six months or something...
> Not much time, by any means. Then you *must* eat plenty, and you'll
> grow.
[...]

Thank you, Papa Weider.

> Apropos whatevers. Do you care for big legs? If not, cut your lower
> body work and use your resources to build your upper body, for which
> you definitely care. You seem to be fine with deadlift, so keep your
> deadlift, but cut all the rest and concentrate on what you do care for.
>
> How about that?

Sound advice, however unnecessary. I know my goals. I'm lifting and
eating accordingly.

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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Bully wrote:
> Stephen Mulholland wrote:
>
>>ephedralover@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Focusing on a bench press max is very shallow goal and is in no way a
>>>sign of overall health or strength.
>>
>>Well there ya go.
>>
>>Define "overall strength" for me, if you would.
>>
>>Stephen
>
>
> It's the weight that you can press overhead for 50 reps whilst kneeling on a
> swiss ball!!! Obviously.
>

Seen it! We had a "personal trainer" at the gym that had his victims
trying to do dumbell military presses while balancing on the Barney Egg.
If anyone was working out nearby, we'd stand back and wait until the
suicidal behaviour was over and resume working out. No one wanted to be
anywhere close when this maroon and his naive acolytes took the spill.

There is always a frickin' professor at every gym that has to do this
differently enough that he is beyond comparison. That is supposed to
explain the tinker toy weights he works out with. That was one of the
stupidest things I have seen at the gym, and it was no surprise coming
from that idiot.

Stephen N.--->and I've seen my share...
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Dnia 2006-11-30 ephedralover RemoveThis @hotmail.com napisa³(a):
> Great! Now focus on something more important than numbers. Lowering
> your body fat and increasing your overall body strength.
>
> How much do you weigh?

Sorry, but you are doomed to remain weak. I'll get strong, no matter
my genes. You will remain weak forever. Accept it. It will make you
happy weakling.

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