Weighst or rowing machine?

Jason Earl <jearl.TakeThisOut@xmission.com> wrote:

>An hour is plenty of time, even if you want to use some of that time
>for eating .

Actually it will be more like 30 min's as there is a 15
min drive home and 15 min drive back
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"David" <forgotwhy RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>A rowing
>machine doesn;t cut it as it won't build muscle and it is too high impact on
>certain muscles/joints to allow a decent cardio routine (imo)

Here is the Concept Rower in link

http://tinyurl.com/fjm8w

The thing that attracts me to the rower is that it
keeps all my joints "lubed" ..... uses them in a range
of motion
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Jason Earl <jearl.RemoveThis@xmission.com> wrote:

>Dumb bells are about the most versatile piece of exercise equipment
>ever invented.

OK.... I'm sold

I mean they are compact and don't need to take a lot of
space, correct?

I could easily move them myself from one apartment to
another without any help, correct?

I'm looking at something like Powerblocks.... that OK

My main concern is what to get for indoor cardio. I'm
thinking either a recumbent exer bike or the Concept
Rower.

I'm leaning towards the recumbent exer bike as its
cheaper

Its very important that whatever I get that I can move
it myself without any help. Being single and moving a
lot I apply that parameter to everything I own. <G>
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18miles DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:

>DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE

OK

Thanks
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me RemoveThis @privacy.net writes:

> Jason Earl <jearl RemoveThis @xmission.com> wrote:
>
>>Dumb bells are about the most versatile piece of exercise equipment
>>ever invented.
>
> OK.... I'm sold
>
> I mean they are compact and don't need to take a lot of space,
> correct?

I think you would be hard pressed to find exercise equipment that
takes up less space and is even marginally effective. Free weights
are far more than simply marginally effective.

> I could easily move them myself from one apartment to another
> without any help, correct?

It looks like the heaviest set of powerblocks that you can get is 130
lbs. per hand. I would consider that "easy to move," but then again,
I lift heavy stuff for fun . If you can't move 130 lbs by yourself
after using the powerblocks for a while then you probably need to try
something else.

> I'm looking at something like Powerblocks.... that OK

I am a cheapskate. You can buy Olympic dumbbell handles an Oly
barbell and Oly plates for far less, and you'll get a more functional
package. Dumbbells are nice, but it won't be long before you are able
to move more than 130 lbs in some of the really important movements
like the deadlift or the squat. Getting Oly dumbbells complements an
Oly barbell and weights without adding much to the cost. Besides,
power cleans are fun.

> My main concern is what to get for indoor cardio. I'm
> thinking either a recumbent exer bike or the Concept
> Rower.

Personally, if I feel like hamstering for distance, I just go outside
and either run or walk. If I am pressed for time, I do stairs, or I
do Tabata Front squats.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=04-046-training

Recumbent bikes are sort of nice if you like to spend some calories
while reading or watching TV though. That's not my thing, but some
people really like them.

> I'm leaning towards the recumbent exer bike as its cheaper

Cheaper is better, assuming that you don't break the bike. I have
heard that the Concept2 rowers hold up pretty well under use.

> Its very important that whatever I get that I can move
> it myself without any help. Being single and moving a
> lot I apply that parameter to everything I own. <G>

Dumbbells would definitely work, and it looks like the Powerblocks are
at least upgradeable to fairly serious amounts of weight. One of the
nice things about Oly bars is that it is always possible to purchase
more plates. There is no question that the Powerblocks look nicer .

Jason
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<18miles.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
> as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
> you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
> you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
> go to www.bodybuilding.com .
>
> P.S.
> DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A ROWING MACHINE
>

DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!
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18miles.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

>see, rowing machines are expensive to get your money
>as was said before what are your goals.It is important to know what
>you want,if you want to get stronger or get toned and cut/defined
>you should get a bench,but if you want to lose weight you should
>go to www.bodybuilding.com .

Does someone from that forum actually pay these morons to recruit
readers from MFW? Or maybe they just give them free samples of
Superandrotestobolin Xtreeeem.
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<me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> I'm wanting to buy some exercise equip that is not
> massive and is easy to move and somewhat compact.
>
> I live alone and always try to buy things that I can
> move by myself
>
> having said that I realize I could get a decent bench
> and set of Powerbells and that would be fairly space
> efficient
>
> My other option is to get a Concept rowing machine and
> maybe it will provide all the exercise I need
>
> any thoughts on weights vs a rowing machine?
>
The Concept II is an awesome rowing machine that will essentially last
forever. The company provides first rate support and rowing is an excellent
exercise. The newer model can fold up out of the way. But I would get some
weights as well, which are practically free if you keep an eye out for
deals.
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:08:47 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

>DON'T TAKE FITNESS ADVICE FROM TROLLS!!
>

OR from homeless people like Michaels.
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> "David" <forgotwhy.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>A rowing
>>machine doesn;t cut it as it won't build muscle and it is too high impact
>>on
>>certain muscles/joints to allow a decent cardio routine (imo)
>
> Here is the Concept Rower in link
>
> http://tinyurl.com/fjm8w
>
> The thing that attracts me to the rower is that it
> keeps all my joints "lubed" ..... uses them in a range
> of motion

Rowing overuses certain muscles - it is like a high rep low weights workout
but you are doing hundreds of reps - so you get fatigue in certain muscles
(shoulders, quads) which doesn't make them bigger - look at a marathon
runner for instance. On the other hand it is only a pulling movement so your
pecs get no action. Also it is difficult to increment rowing machines for
goal setting. Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage
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"David" <forgotwhy.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Best thing is you can stick it in under your bed for storage

Point taken

I always assumed that rowers were some of the fittest
people in the world tho.
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me RemoveThis @privacy.net writes:

>>I think you would be hard pressed to find exercise equipment that
>>takes up less space and is even marginally effective. Free weights
>>are far more than simply marginally effective.
>
> OK
>
>>It looks like the heaviest set of powerblocks that you can get is
>>130 lbs. per hand. I would consider that "easy to move," but then
>>again, I lift heavy stuff for fun . If you can't move 130 lbs by
>>yourself after using the powerblocks for a while then you probably
>>need to try something else.
>
> Well even with the Powerblocks I could take the plates apart and
> move them individually if needed, correct?

It looks that way.

>>Personally, if I feel like hamstering for distance, I just go
>>outside and either run or walk. If I am pressed for time, I do
>>stairs, or I do Tabata Front squats.
>
> Good point. My only concern would be on days its bad weather
> outside such as raining or sleeting

Sometimes it is possible to be too cheap . I know lots of people
that exercise while they watch their morning news, or whatever. If
your goal is to just get your heart rate up on a consistent basis it's
probably better to get some sort of machine.

>>Cheaper is better, assuming that you don't break the bike. I have
>>heard that the Concept2 rowers hold up pretty well under use.
>
> Well Consumer Reports just did a review on recumbent
> exer bikes and the Schwinn model got high ratings at
> low cost. I "think" is uses magnetic resistance and
> was priced abt $400 if I remember correct

My father actually has one of these, and so far it has held up well.

> Bottom line tho.... sounds like dumbbells are a must
> have whether they be Powerblocks or Oly bells

Strength training really is key. You need something heavy to lift. I
personally go for barbells, but when I started I used nothing but some
cheap standard dumbbell handles I got from WalMart.

It doesn't really matter that much what you use, as long as it's
heavy. I have a buddy that swears by his homemade sandbags, and
kettlebells are also very popular.

> Any advice on a bench? Or should I just forget abt a
> bench for now and make sure I'm gonna use the bells?

I bought a cheap bench and quickly outgrew it. Fortunately, by then I
had most shifted to wanting to be able to lift stuff over my head .

Jason
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