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EskWIRED.TakeThisOut@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
> In misc.survivalism aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdf.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Before the official story of Islamic hijackers was fed to the press,
>> witnesses on the day in New York describe what they saw on 9/11:
>
>> "That was no American Airlines jet"
>
> If what you suspect is true, then where did the AA planes end up? Are the
> passengers being kept in prisons? Were the planes dismantled in secret
> hangars? What happened to the guys in airport towers who were monitoring
> all the flights? How were they silenced when the AA planes were diverted
> to secret landing sites?

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>
> First I'd like to know what happened to the commercial jetliners and their
> passengers, and how the air traffic controllers were silenced.
>

At Area 51 of course. Next to the moon landing stage.

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In misc.survivalism Jonathan <Jonathan RemoveThis @house.not> wrote:

> > I can't get past the "controlled demolition" explanation. I've
> > worked in a bunch of skyscrapers. Workmen are always questioned.
> > And planting explosives secretly amongst tens of thousands of bored
> > busybodies seems like a difficult task to me. That work is done by
> > specialty firms. Lots and lots of manhours would be needed for two
> > giant buildigs. It seems unlikely to me that the work could have
> > been carried out in secret.

> Gee I saw no strange looking guys hiding anything under their coats. Man
> you are one NutJob. There are plenty of ways to place charges anywhere they
> wanted.

Has anyone come up with a credible scenario? I'd love to see it.



You sure are one simple minded soul aren't you? Do you think people
> would carry their tools in broad daylight while all the workers are on the
> job? When maintenance workers enter does do they ever do it while everyone
> is at work? No they don't fool. Does anyone even see the plumber or
> electrician while they are doing their job?

I've often seen electricians in office buildings. They string new cables
whenever offices are moved around. Ethernet, electical and telephone cable
spools all over, with guys on ladders poking their heads above the drop
ceiling. It is pretty common.

But why do you ask? Is there a point you are heading towards?

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<bigjim RemoveThis @backpacker.com> wrote in message
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> Supposedly hijackers turned off transponders making them invisible to
> ATC. There is more to the story. Some theories are a bit in left
> field but look at OKC bombing- federal agents conveniently stayed
> home.

No, they didn't. Really.
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aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdf.RemoveThis@googlemail.com wrote:
> Before the official story of Islamic hijackers was fed to the press,
> witnesses on the day in New York describe what they saw on 9/11:
>
> "That was no American Airlines jet"
>
> "It was a military plane"
>
> "It was definitely no airliner"
>
> Watch:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oVH5jm06pJY
>

What a crock!
American Airlines is headquartered here, and you can bet the people here
KNOW you are nuts. Their friends were on those planes!
Stop spreading terrorist nonsense.
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"It was definitely no commercial airliner"

In today's local newspaper there is a short story about foresenic
investigators using a new DNA technique to identify some more remains
from 911 WTC. The remains were from a woman who boarded the American
Airlines flight in Boston.

Amazing how you have planes that took off never to be seen again,
passengers missing, crews missing, families grieving, body and 757
aircraft parts identified at the site, yet these kooks say it wasn't
commercial airliners that crashed into the buildings.
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On Sep 13, 12:14 pm, EskWI....RemoveThis@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
> In misc.survivalism aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgd....RemoveThis@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Before the official story of Islamic hijackers was fed to the press,
> > witnesses on the day in New York describe what they saw on 9/11:
> > "That was no American Airlines jet"
>
> If what you suspect is true, then where did the AA planes end up? Are the
> passengers being kept in prisons? Were the planes dismantled in secret
> hangars? What happened to the guys in airport towers who were monitoring
> all the flights? How were they silenced when the AA planes were diverted
> to secret landing sites?
>
> Without these answers, I have trouble believing that the planes were not
> the AA planes.
>
> I also have questions about how the explosives for the controlled
> demolition were placed without tens of thousands of office workers knowing
> that it was being done, but that can wait for another day.
>
> First I'd like to know what happened to the commercial jetliners and their
> passengers, and how the air traffic controllers were silenced.
>
> --
> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
> -- Bertrand Russel

Weeks before the cleared the towers for many hours as they did
'security checks'. Plus, how did the third building crumble to the
ground when no other steel frame building in the history of
construction has 'emploded' from fire, a plane hitting it, etc? Nobody
mentions the third building.
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On Sep 13, 4:19 pm, "SGT. Major" <n... RemoveThis @O.my> wrote:
> <trad... RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote
>
> > Oh, and then what about this fellow Bin Laden and his cohorts
> > releasing videos where they take credit for 911? Is he part of the
> > conspiracy too? LOL
>
> Yeah, like the US government would ever have Bin Laden in bed with them.

HAHAHA. Ahh... to be naive.
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On 9/13/07 6:13 PM, in article
46e9a998$0$22904$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com, "Not Disclosed"
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> aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdf.DeleteThis@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Before the official story of Islamic hijackers was fed to the press,
>> witnesses on the day in New York describe what they saw on 9/11:
>>
>> "That was no American Airlines jet"
>>
>> "It was a military plane"
>>
>> "It was definitely no airliner"
>>
>> Watch:
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oVH5jm06pJY
>>
>
> Hmmmm, why would people on the ground at the time of the crashes say;
>
> "That was no American Airlines jet"
>
> Because some k00k remastered the video, the aicraft was definately a
> Boeing 757.
>
Not to mention the doctored audio loop that a Dalmatian could detect.
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In article <1189722756.406740.292810.DeleteThis@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Jim34 <gfhdtr6yd6ry.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 13, 8:14 pm, EskWI....DeleteThis@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
>
>> I also have questions about how the explosives for the controlled
>> demolition were placed without tens of thousands of office workers knowing
>> that it was being done, but that can wait for another day.
>
>http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3447/wtcliftshaftsut3.jpg
>
>Mechanical Engineer explains how demolitions charges were place on the
>welded joints on the WTC beams that ran up the center of the towers.
>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4801566025292753615
>
>

Each and every beam was examined by at least one civil engineer before
it was shipped to China. A couple thousands were kept for analysis.
1,300 are in storage here;

http://www.amny.com/entertainment/news/am-wtcrelics-pg2006,0,6613706.p...ogaller
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4799363656282270164


There is no eyewitness or audio/video record of explosions of size and
placement and timing consistent with the collapse of any of the towers
on 9/11.

In 1993, a 1000 pound bomb in the basement of a tower was loud enough
to be heard for blocks around and powerful enough to destroy several
floors of reinforced concrete yet it was nowhere close to weakening
the tower's structure. In 2001, any bomb would have to be as bigger
and louder to have any effect.





There is no eyewitness or audio/video record of explosions of size and
placement and timing consistant with the collapse of any of the towers
on 9/11.

In 1993, a 1000 pound bomb in the basement of a tower was loud enough
to be heard for blocks around and powerful enough to destroy several
floors of re-inforced concrete yet it nome nowhere close to weakening
the tower's strucuture. In 2001, any bomb would bave to be as bigger
and louder to have any effect.



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In article <fccc82$f7$1@reader1.panix.com>,
<EskWIRED.DeleteThis@spamblock.panix.com> wrote:
>In misc.survivalism Jonathan <Jonathan.DeleteThis@house.not> wrote:
>
>> > I can't get past the "controlled demolition" explanation. I've
>> > worked in a bunch of skyscrapers. Workmen are always questioned.
>> > And planting explosives secretly amongst tens of thousands of bored
>> > busybodies seems like a difficult task to me. That work is done by
>> > specialty firms. Lots and lots of manhours would be needed for two
>> > giant buildigs. It seems unlikely to me that the work could have
>> > been carried out in secret.
>
>> Gee I saw no strange looking guys hiding anything under their coats. Man
>> you are one NutJob. There are plenty of ways to place charges anywhere they
>> wanted.
>
>Has anyone come up with a credible scenario? I'd love to see it.
>
>
>
There is no eyewitness or audio/video record of explosions of size,
placement, and timing consistent with the collapse of any of the
towers on 9/11.

In 1993, a 1000 pound bomb in the basement of a tower was loud enough
to be heard for blocks around and by everyone inside the complex and
powerful enough to destroy several floors of reinforced concrete yet
it was nowhere close to weakening the tower's structure. In 2001, any
bombs would have to be as bigger and louder to have any effect.


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EskWIRED.TakeThisOut@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

> I can't get past the "controlled demolition" explanation. I've worked in
> a bunch of skyscrapers. Workmen are always questioned.

In established buildings maybe. In a new building just occupied a few
weeks, a thief did wallets and purses on four floors before I asked him
WTF are you doing. "Testing power points" was the reply that satisfied
my co-workers. I ignored my boss and rang security before anything was done.

lol, it wasn't until I walked into the CEO's office (large state
govenment department) and left a note a couple of years that they
actually start to put in security systems to prevent members ofthe
public justdoing the same.

but that doesn't alter your point.

> And planting explosives secretly amongst tens of thousands of
> bored busybodies seems like a difficult task to me.

Weekend work?
Pillar safety check?

> That work is done by specialty firms. Lots
> and lots of manhours would be needed for two giant buildigs. It seems
> unlikely to me that the work could have been carried out in secret.

Agreed,
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WINSMITH <neatmail DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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>
> George Bush told us in the Whitehouse Newsletter
> that he watched the first tower get hit.
> Think about that! YOU never saw the first hit,
>
> They say, "Rank has its priveledges."


WTF are you talking about?
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