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Pete

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:54 am
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<dan.strongman RemoveThis @gmail.com> schreef:

> >High repetitions burn fat while low repetitions build muscle.

> 8 - 10 reps build muscle while 5 - 1 rep build neural strength.

5-6 will build muscle too, and 8-10 build strength as well.

>>If I'm not sore after a workout, I didn't work out hard enough.

> That soreness you are feeling is protein digesting enzymes eating away
> damaged muscle. The more sore the more muscle is destroyed.

Thats not correct.

When you do a specific workout every 10 days you will get sore every 10
days. Do that workout every 3 days and you are only sore the first 6 days.

There is an error in your statement...

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:54 am
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"Pete" <phoutstra.DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> <dan.strongman.DeleteThis@gmail.com> schreef:
>
>> >High repetitions burn fat while low repetitions build muscle.
>
>> 8 - 10 reps build muscle while 5 - 1 rep build neural strength.
>
> 5-6 will build muscle too, and 8-10 build strength as well.
>
>>>If I'm not sore after a workout, I didn't work out hard enough.
>
>> That soreness you are feeling is protein digesting enzymes eating away
>> damaged muscle. The more sore the more muscle is destroyed.
>
> Thats not correct.
>
> When you do a specific workout every 10 days you will get sore every 10
> days. Do that workout every 3 days and you are only sore the first 6 days.


What? There is zero correlation between soreness and frequency of work out.

>
> There is an error in your statement...
>
> --
> Pete
>


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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:22 pm
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"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam.RemoveThis@hardbopdrums.com> schreef:

>>> That soreness you are feeling is protein digesting enzymes eating away
>>> damaged muscle. The more sore the more muscle is destroyed.

>> Thats not correct.

>> When you do a specific workout every 10 days you will get sore every 10
>> days. Do that workout every 3 days and you are only sore the first 6
>> days.

> What? There is zero correlation between soreness and frequency of work
> out.

Try an intense workout every 2 weeks, with no exercise in between.

Then do that same exact workout every 2 weeks, but with lighter sessions
EOD.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:53 pm
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"Pete" <phoutstra DeleteThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "Hard Bop Drums" <nospam DeleteThis @hardbopdrums.com> schreef:
>
>>>> That soreness you are feeling is protein digesting enzymes eating away
>>>> damaged muscle. The more sore the more muscle is destroyed.
>
>>> Thats not correct.
>
>>> When you do a specific workout every 10 days you will get sore every 10
>>> days. Do that workout every 3 days and you are only sore the first 6
>>> days.
>
>> What? There is zero correlation between soreness and frequency of work
>> out.
>
> Try an intense workout every 2 weeks, with no exercise in between.
>
> Then do that same exact workout every 2 weeks, but with lighter sessions
> EOD.
>
> Pete
>

Come on man, you know that you can make your comment make sense if you come
up with a crazy illustration, but if you are training consistently, you
can't say that you will be more sore if you train 4 days apart vs say 10.
The comment that I disagree with more than this was the other guy's claim
that unless he was sore after each workout, he thought he did not train hard
enough. You don't need to be sore all of the time to make gains. As a matter
of fact, if you are sore all of the time, you are more than likely over
training. Over training is still one of the biggest problems that people
have. I realize that this sounds odd, but it is harder to over train if you
train very intensely. The easiest way to over train is to not work hard on
each set. This way, you don't get tired as easily, so you can do more sets.
If you train with more intensity, you get tired more quickly and therefore
you won't be able to do as many sets. I have always agreed in basic
principle with the HIT guys, but they go overboard with the minimum training
ideology. I think that there is a happy medium between the HIT guys and
their 1 set principle and the volume guys with their 20-30 set/body part
principle.



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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:00 pm
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download.com" <pitzradio.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hard Bop Drums" <
>>>
>>> When you do a specific workout every 10 days you will get sore every 10
>>> days. Do that workout every 3 days and you are only sore the first 6
>>> days.
>>
>>
>> What? There is zero correlation between soreness and frequency of work
>> out.
>>
>>>
>>> There is an error in your statement...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pete
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert Schuh
>
> Robert,
> I change workout every three months and I am sore for about a week (3
> wkouts).
> What's the saying, no pain no gain!
>
> Hurt is another thing, I hurt the last few reps of everything I do. I try
> to stay with the 10 second thingy but at times I just have to sit and
> blow.
>
> Burr
>

That makes perfect sense. I was basically stating that you can't say that
someone will be sore if they train every body part 4 days apart vs say 10.
One of, if not the most important thing for people to do is to learn to
listen to their bodies. I know that when I was younger I would train through
days that I more than likely should not have. Just last week I went in to
train my chest and back and my pecs were sore from set one and did not warm
up and I was weak. I only did about 4 sets and said "screw it." I went home
and ate. I don't have the need to train like I did when I was competing
either, but even as I got older and was getting ready for a show, I would
change my work out enough to allow myself to recuperate more thoroughly if I
need to. You are spot on regarding hurt vs sore too. If you have an injury,
you will do nothing but set yourself back further if you continue to train
the same way. You just have to learn what needs to be done. Sometimes you
will need to rest completely while other times you may still be able to
train that bodypart using a different angle etc.


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Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

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