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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:27 pm
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Hello,
For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
feel
fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
"normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
couple of minutes.
I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:42 pm
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<srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
> Hello,
>
> For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
> strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
> elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
> even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
> strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
> very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
> feel
> fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
> "normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
> feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
> thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
> strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
> me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
> couple of minutes.
> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
> universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
> intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
> 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
> fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
> fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
> stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
> got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
> strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
> permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
>
> Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
> Scott
Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that could
treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
problem?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:19 am
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In article <figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
> > exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
> > universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
> > intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
> > 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
> > fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
> > fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
> > stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
> > got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
> > strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
> > permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
> >
> > Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
> > Scott
>
> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that could
> treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>
> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
> problem?
>
> David
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:05 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> <srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Hello,
>>
>> For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
>> strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
>> elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
>> even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
>> strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
>> very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
>> feel
>> fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
>> "normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
>> feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
>> thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
>> strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
>> me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
>> couple of minutes.
>
>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
>> universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
>> intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
>> 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
>> fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
>> fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
>> stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
>> got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
>> strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
>> permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
>>
>> Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
>> Scott
>
> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that
> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>
> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
> problem?
>
> David
Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first here,
I think.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:02 pm
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On Nov 27, 11:07 am, Tom Anderson <t....TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Steve Freides wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> <srk1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> >>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
> >>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
> >>> universally.
>
> >> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that
> >> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>
> >> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
> >> problem?
>
> > Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first here,
> > I think.
>
> No, we've had loads of it. Rarely this complicated in the setup, though,
> and usually with the spamvert following the initial post very quickly. I'm
> inclined to think that the OP is genuine - and either diabetic or
> suffering from heart or liver disease. He should go to his doctor and get
> some blood tests done.
>
> I'm interested to read this:
>
> >>> I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike, elliptical, etc., but as
> >>> soon as I do any kind of strength training - even if it's just situps
> >>> or pushups - my body responds in a very strange way. [...] It even
> >>> affects me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for
> >>> a couple of minutes.
>
> So a rowing machine is strength training now? Hell, bodyweight situps are
> strength training? I interpret this to mean that his definition of
> 'cardio' means 'cardio where i don't actually work very hard' - doesn't
> really go to the limits of his aerobic capacity and doesn't touch his
> anaerobic capacity. He might be grinding away for hours, but he's never
> stressing his system. That he feels awful after he does do something which
> involves higher peak exertion (as rowing usually does, at least IME, and
> as weights certainly do) points to a problem with either oxygen supply (so
> heart or blood vessels) or things involved with anaerobic metabolism (so
> Cori cycle, so liver). Oh sod it, could be anything. See a doctor and get
> electrolyte, endocrine, heart enzyme and liver enzyme panels done.
> Possibly also find someone who can do a lung function test - a hospital,
> or an occupational health office, maybe. VO2max would be good, but that's
> a bit more specialised.
>
> tom
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Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired format or
content of postings. Tom thanks for the useful information you
provided. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly helpful
so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm
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On Nov 27, 6:17 pm, "Joe Rosen" <joereos....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <srk1368@> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired
> format or> content of postings. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly
> helpful
> > so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
>
> will see a different doc.>>
>
> See a brain surgeon, there is something I saw on the Discovery Channel which
> may help you. Get a doctor or a close friend to drill little holes into your
> skull to release the internal pressure. That works for some people.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:07 pm
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Steve Freides wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> <srk1368 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
>>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
>>> universally.
>>
>> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that
>> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>>
>> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
>> problem?
>
> Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first here,
> I think.
No, we've had loads of it. Rarely this complicated in the setup, though,
and usually with the spamvert following the initial post very quickly. I'm
inclined to think that the OP is genuine - and either diabetic or
suffering from heart or liver disease. He should go to his doctor and get
some blood tests done.
I'm interested to read this:
>>> I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike, elliptical, etc., but as
>>> soon as I do any kind of strength training - even if it's just situps
>>> or pushups - my body responds in a very strange way. [...] It even
>>> affects me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for
>>> a couple of minutes.
So a rowing machine is strength training now? Hell, bodyweight situps are
strength training? I interpret this to mean that his definition of
'cardio' means 'cardio where i don't actually work very hard' - doesn't
really go to the limits of his aerobic capacity and doesn't touch his
anaerobic capacity. He might be grinding away for hours, but he's never
stressing his system. That he feels awful after he does do something which
involves higher peak exertion (as rowing usually does, at least IME, and
as weights certainly do) points to a problem with either oxygen supply (so
heart or blood vessels) or things involved with anaerobic metabolism (so
Cori cycle, so liver). Oh sod it, could be anything. See a doctor and get
electrolyte, endocrine, heart enzyme and liver enzyme panels done.
Possibly also find someone who can do a lung function test - a hospital,
or an occupational health office, maybe. VO2max would be good, but that's
a bit more specialised.
tom
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:17 pm
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<srk1368@> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired
format or
> content of postings. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly
helpful
> so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
will see a different doc.>>
See a brain surgeon, there is something I saw on the Discovery Channel which
may help you. Get a doctor or a close friend to drill little holes into your
skull to release the internal pressure. That works for some people. >> Stay informed about: Strength training causes brain fog, fatigue |
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<srk1368 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 27, 11:07 am, Tom Anderson <t... DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Steve Freides wrote:
>> > "David Cohen" <sammies... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >> <srk1... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote
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>> >>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
>> >>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be
>> >>> recognized
>> >>> universally.
>>
>> >> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available
>> >> that
>> >> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>>
>> >> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into
>> >> this
>> >> problem?
>>
>> > Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first
>> > here,
>> > I think.
>>
>> No, we've had loads of it. Rarely this complicated in the setup,
>> though,
>> and usually with the spamvert following the initial post very
>> quickly. I'm
>> inclined to think that the OP is genuine - and either diabetic or
>> suffering from heart or liver disease. He should go to his doctor and
>> get
>> some blood tests done.
>>
>> I'm interested to read this:
>>
>> >>> I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike, elliptical, etc., but
>> >>> as
>> >>> soon as I do any kind of strength training - even if it's just
>> >>> situps
>> >>> or pushups - my body responds in a very strange way. [...] It
>> >>> even
>> >>> affects me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest
>> >>> level for
>> >>> a couple of minutes.
>>
>> So a rowing machine is strength training now? Hell, bodyweight situps
>> are
>> strength training? I interpret this to mean that his definition of
>> 'cardio' means 'cardio where i don't actually work very hard' -
>> doesn't
>> really go to the limits of his aerobic capacity and doesn't touch his
>> anaerobic capacity. He might be grinding away for hours, but he's
>> never
>> stressing his system. That he feels awful after he does do something
>> which
>> involves higher peak exertion (as rowing usually does, at least IME,
>> and
>> as weights certainly do) points to a problem with either oxygen
>> supply (so
>> heart or blood vessels) or things involved with anaerobic metabolism
>> (so
>> Cori cycle, so liver). Oh sod it, could be anything. See a doctor and
>> get
>> electrolyte, endocrine, heart enzyme and liver enzyme panels done.
>> Possibly also find someone who can do a lung function test - a
>> hospital,
>> or an occupational health office, maybe. VO2max would be good, but
>> that's
>> a bit more specialised.
>>
>> tom
>>
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> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired format or
> content of postings. Tom thanks for the useful information you
> provided. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly helpful
> so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
> will see a different doc.
Internet medical advice is worth exactly what you pay for it. Do see a
doctor, or two or three doctors if that's what it takes.
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"Joe Rosen" <joereoseon.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
> <srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
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> Forgot the name, but it is a treatment for migraines in some places. Good
> luck getting help. See a doctor ASAP, as you have something unusual and
> that
> could be a sign of something serious.
And what now passes for advice on MFW is forever immortalized.
You retarded people are funny. I guess that's some compensation.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your sucking Curt off.
Buh bye.
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> Forgot the name,
Trepanning. Or trepanation.
> but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.
Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711281423100.19830.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li>,
Tom Anderson <twic.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Joe Rosen wrote:
>
> > <srk1368.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
> >
> > Forgot the name,
>
> Trepanning. Or trepanation.
>
> > but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.
>
> Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
> use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
> pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).
>
> tom
Trepanation, iirc, has also been used in ancient Tibet to open the third
eye and expand Psychic powers according to T. Lobsang Rampa. (Your
trivia for the day. <g>)
I've actually read some of his books. They are fascinating reading, but
I took them as fiction.
Kinda like the writings of Carlos Castaneda. THOSE got to be too weird
even for me by about the third book and I gave up on them. 
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Nov 27, 11:07 am, Tom Anderson <t....RemoveThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> "David Cohen" <sammies....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> <srk1....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
>>>>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
>>>>> universally.
>>>>
>>>> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that
>>>> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>>>>
>>>> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
>>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first here,
>>> I think.
>>
>> No, we've had loads of it. Rarely this complicated in the setup, though,
>> and usually with the spamvert following the initial post very quickly. I'm
>> inclined to think that the OP is genuine - and either diabetic or
>> suffering from heart or liver disease. He should go to his doctor and get
>> some blood tests done.
>>
>> I'm interested to read this:
>>
>>>>> I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike, elliptical, etc., but as
>>>>> soon as I do any kind of strength training - even if it's just situps
>>>>> or pushups - my body responds in a very strange way. [...] It even
>>>>> affects me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for
>>>>> a couple of minutes.
>>
>> So a rowing machine is strength training now? Hell, bodyweight situps
>> are strength training? I interpret this to mean that his definition of
>> 'cardio' means 'cardio where i don't actually work very hard' - doesn't
>> really go to the limits of his aerobic capacity and doesn't touch his
>> anaerobic capacity. He might be grinding away for hours, but he's never
>> stressing his system. That he feels awful after he does do something
>> which involves higher peak exertion (as rowing usually does, at least
>> IME, and as weights certainly do) points to a problem with either
>> oxygen supply (so heart or blood vessels) or things involved with
>> anaerobic metabolism (so Cori cycle, so liver). Oh sod it, could be
>> anything. See a doctor and get electrolyte, endocrine, heart enzyme and
>> liver enzyme panels done. Possibly also find someone who can do a lung
>> function test - a hospital, or an occupational health office, maybe.
>> VO2max would be good, but that's a bit more specialised.
>
> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired format or
> content of postings.
I don't think everyone thought you were a spammer, just this David Cohen
character, but nobody else had anything useful to say, so like the good
Confucians we are (or is that confusions?), we said nothing.
> Tom thanks for the useful information you provided.
Eh, all i said was see a doctor and made some baseless speculations about
what might be wrong.
Do try some serious sprints on the bike or treadmill, though, and see how
you feel - i predict you'll feel terrible, which will prove this isn't a
weights-specific problem.
> I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly helpful so I wanted to
> just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I will see a
> different doc.
Always a good idea. GPs are, as a rule, imbeciles.
tom
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Strength training causes brain fog, fatigue [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:27:28 -0800, "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Joe Rosen" <joereoseon.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> <srk1368.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
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>> Forgot the name, but it is a treatment for migraines in some places. Good
>> luck getting help. See a doctor ASAP, as you have something unusual and
>> that
>> could be a sign of something serious.
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>And what now passes for advice on MFW is forever immortalized.
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>You retarded people are funny. I guess that's some compensation.
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>Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your sucking Curt off.
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>Buh bye.
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>David
David's just jealous because he flunked the trepanation segment at nursing school in Bangladesh. >> Stay informed about: Strength training causes brain fog, fatigue |
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