Strength of non-olympic barbells?

On Feb 27, 10:51 am, "Douglas Hall" <douglashall1....RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've just bought a barbell for use in the garage - just wanted to do
> stuff at home like cleans, HCP, and military presses. I have thought
> about getting some squat racks at home, too, though.
>
> The barbell I've bought is 5ft long, and has those spinlock collars.
> It feels quite solid and strong, and with not beling too long, it
> feels quite robust.
>
> But it's not an olympic bar - and with that in mind, what sort of
> weight can you realistically / safely go up to with a non-olympic bar,
> before I should think about splurging on the full monty.
>
> There's no info with the barbell at all, so no hint, there of a kind
> of max safe weight - and although I've lifted for a little over 20
> years, I've always really gone to gyms and used olymipc barbells.

My first bar start to bend elastically at 170-200 lbs, and got a
permanent bend at 225.
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On Feb 27, 1:51 pm, "Douglas Hall" <douglashall1....RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
<snip>

Thanks for everybody's feedback.

>From the sounds of things, a barbell like this is going to have very
limited use, then - given the weights people have said they've
encountered similar bars bending.

I will be getting an olympic bar at some point - and to explain a
little about my questioning - when you've spent a couple of decades in
gyms, using fairly good quality kit, and only ever done any serious
lifts with olympic bars, you've got no frame of reference for the more
domestic equipment, nor what it's capable of.

I'll certainly not be doing much in the way of deads or squats with
it, then.

And for the things that it would likely be suitable for - weight wise
- like curls, I'm not so overly interested in barbell work for, when a
couple of heavy dumbbells will do the trick.

Anyways, it (the barbell) didn't cost me much...

Thanks to all who responded.
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In article <1172590266.442325.70180.TakeThisOut@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
"AnonymousJ" <craigs.list.jason.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> I couldn't guess what it would take to ruin the bar in one motion, but
> in my experience it's easy to put a permanent bow in a 1" bar using
> approximately 175-200 lbs on relatively smooth lifts like bench. If
> you're putting a lot of velocity on the weight you could probably do
> it with less.
>
> Putting a bow in the bar is probably a long way from being dangerous.
> With that in mind, my answer is 10,000 lbs.
>
> On Feb 27, 8:51 am, "Douglas Hall" <douglashall1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > I've just bought a barbell for use in the garage - just wanted to do
> > stuff at home like cleans, HCP, and military presses. I have thought
> > about getting some squat racks at home, too, though.
> >
> > The barbell I've bought is 5ft long, and has those spinlock collars.
> > It feels quite solid and strong, and with not beling too long, it
> > feels quite robust.
> >
> > But it's not an olympic bar - and with that in mind, what sort of
> > weight can you realistically / safely go up to with a non-olympic bar,
> > before I should think about splurging on the full monty.
> >
> > There's no info with the barbell at all, so no hint, there of a kind
> > of max safe weight - and although I've lifted for a little over 20
> > years, I've always really gone to gyms and used olymipc barbells.
>
>

Actually it is dangerous - on your wrists if you do cleans.

Which is the problem with cheap olympic bars as well. Get yourself a
decent bar and bumpers if you can afford it.

--
Keith
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On Feb 27, 9:43 pm, Shute <S... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2007 12:21:53 -0800, "Douglas Hall"
> <douglashall1... RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Feb 27, 1:51 pm, "Douglas Hall" <douglashall1... RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk>
> >wrote:
> ><snip>
>
> >Thanks for everybody's feedback.
>
> >>From the sounds of things, a barbell like this is going to have very
> >limited use, then - given the weights people have said they've
> >encountered similar bars bending.
>
> >I will be getting an olympic bar at some point - and to explain a
> >little about my questioning - when you've spent a couple of decades in
> >gyms, using fairly good quality kit, and only ever done any serious
> >lifts with olympic bars, you've got no frame of reference for the more
> >domestic equipment, nor what it's capable of.
>
> >I'll certainly not be doing much in the way of deads or squats with
> >it, then.
>
> >And for the things that it would likely be suitable for - weight wise
> >- like curls, I'm not so overly interested in barbell work for, when a
> >couple of heavy dumbbells will do the trick.
>
> >Anyways, it (the barbell) didn't cost me much...
>
> >Thanks to all who responded.
>
> Didn't you get a tolerance during the purchase? Most of the weight
> sets I was looking at gave a tolerance with the bars. The sets with
> heavier weights came with a better bar.

No - and it wasn't with a set, I just bought a bar - I have some free-
weight dumbbells already. Compared to some of the non-olymipc bars
I've seen in gyms, over the years, it appears and feels (weight wise)
quite sturdy, but I only really bought it as a stop-gap.
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