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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:27 pm
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Hello,

For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
feel
fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
"normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
couple of minutes.


I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.

Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
Scott

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:42 pm
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<srk1368 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
> Hello,
>
> For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
> strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
> elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
> even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
> strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
> very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
> feel
> fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
> "normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
> feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
> thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
> strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
> me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
> couple of minutes.

> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
> universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
> intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
> 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
> fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
> fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
> stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
> got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
> strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
> permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
>
> Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
> Scott

Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that could
treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?

Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
problem?

David

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:19 am
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In article <figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> > I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
> > exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
> > universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
> > intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
> > 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
> > fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
> > fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
> > stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
> > got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
> > strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
> > permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
> >
> > Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
> > Scott
>
> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that could
> treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>
> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
> problem?
>
> David

You are cruel. Wink
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:05 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:figeah$fmu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> <srk1368.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Hello,
>>
>> For the past several years, my body has responded very strangely to
>> strength training. I can do cardio just fine - exercise bike,
>> elliptical, etc., but as soon as I do any kind of strength training -
>> even if it's just situps or pushups - my body responds in a very
>> strange way. For about 12 hours after my workout I experience
>> very intense brain fog, where I just can't think clearly. I also
>> feel
>> fatigued during the 12 hours after, but it feels different from
>> "normal" fatigue. It's hard to describe exactly, but my body just
>> feels "yucky", not that good tired feeling that you would expect. The
>> thing is, it happens even if I do a pathetically small amount of
>> strength training, like a set of situps for example. It even affects
>> me when I try to do the rowing machine on the lowest level for a
>> couple of minutes.
>
>> I have a theory that the problem might be something like "adrenal
>> exhaustion", which I've read about but doesn't seem to be recognized
>> universally. The reason is that my problems started after a very
>> intense period of strength training about 4 years ago. I worked out
>> 4-5 times a week and pretty much shredded my body. At first I was
>> fine, but pretty soon I wasn't sleeping well and I had terrible brain
>> fog as well as fatigue. Anyways, I realized I was overtraining and
>> stopped. The problem is that I now seem to get similar symptoms as I
>> got back then, but even if I just do a pathetically small amount of
>> strength training. It's as if I damaged my body somehow and have
>> permanently lost my ability to recover from strength training.
>>
>> Thanks very much in advance for any advice.
>> Scott
>
> Gee, I wonder if there's some all natural supplement available that
> could treat the "adrenal exhaustion" that you mention?
>
> Have YOU run into any product like that during your research into this
> problem?
>
> David

Are you suggesting this is two-part spam? That would be a first here,
I think.

-S-
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm
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On Nov 27, 6:17 pm, "Joe Rosen" <joereos....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <srk1368@> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired
> format or> content of postings. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly
> helpful
> > so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
>
> will see a different doc.>>
>
> See a brain surgeon, there is something I saw on the Discovery Channel which
> may help you. Get a doctor or a close friend to drill little holes into your
> skull to release the internal pressure. That works for some people.

Seriously - not funny or clever.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:17 pm
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<srk1368@> Yes, I am real. Apparently I didn't conform to the desired
format or
> content of postings. I have been to one doctor who wasn't particularly
helpful
> so I wanted to just see if anyone had experienced something similar. I
will see a different doc.>>

See a brain surgeon, there is something I saw on the Discovery Channel which
may help you. Get a doctor or a close friend to drill little holes into your
skull to release the internal pressure. That works for some people.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:00 am
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<srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.

Forgot the name, but it is a treatment for migraines in some places. Good
luck getting help. See a doctor ASAP, as you have something unusual and that
could be a sign of something serious.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:00 am
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"Joe Rosen" <joereoseon.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
> <srk1368.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
>
> Forgot the name, but it is a treatment for migraines in some places. Good
> luck getting help. See a doctor ASAP, as you have something unusual and
> that
> could be a sign of something serious.

And what now passes for advice on MFW is forever immortalized.

You retarded people are funny. I guess that's some compensation.

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your sucking Curt off.

Buh bye.

David
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:24 pm
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Joe Rosen wrote:

> <srk1368.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
>
> Forgot the name,

Trepanning. Or trepanation.

> but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.

Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).

tom

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:24 pm
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711281423100.19830.TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li>,
Tom Anderson <twic.TakeThisOut@urchin.earth.li> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Joe Rosen wrote:
>
> > <srk1368.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
> >
> > Forgot the name,
>
> Trepanning. Or trepanation.
>
> > but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.
>
> Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
> use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
> pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).
>
> tom

Trepanation, iirc, has also been used in ancient Tibet to open the third
eye and expand Psychic powers according to T. Lobsang Rampa. (Your
trivia for the day. <g>)

I've actually read some of his books. They are fascinating reading, but
I took them as fiction.

Kinda like the writings of Carlos Castaneda. THOSE got to be too weird
even for me by about the third book and I gave up on them. Razz
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:30 pm
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:27:28 -0800, "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Joe Rosen" <joereoseon.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> <srk1368.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
>>
>> Forgot the name, but it is a treatment for migraines in some places. Good
>> luck getting help. See a doctor ASAP, as you have something unusual and
>> that
>> could be a sign of something serious.
>
>And what now passes for advice on MFW is forever immortalized.
>
>You retarded people are funny. I guess that's some compensation.
>
>Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your sucking Curt off.
>
>Buh bye.
>
>David


David's just jealous because he flunked the trepanation segment at nursing school in Bangladesh.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:30 pm
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:47:24 -0600, Omelet <omp_omelet RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711281423100.19830 RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li>,
> Tom Anderson <twic RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Joe Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > <srk1368 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
>> >
>> > Forgot the name,
>>
>> Trepanning. Or trepanation.
>>
>> > but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.
>>
>> Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
>> use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
>> pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).
>>
>> tom
>
>Trepanation, iirc, has also been used in ancient Tibet to open the third
>eye and expand Psychic powers according to T. Lobsang Rampa.

Yeah, and all that "power" helped them a lot against the Chinese.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:35 pm
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"Lucas Buck" <> David's just jealous because he flunked the trepanation
segment at nursing school in Bangladesh.
>
>
He is busy plugging John Hanson's little cardiac hole.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:17 am
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In article <e3urk3dj0h0jc485hmp6n6l2firv7ausb1.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Lucas Buck <sbcpark.DeleteThis@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:47:24 -0600, Omelet <omp_omelet.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711281423100.19830.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li>,
> > Tom Anderson <twic.DeleteThis@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Joe Rosen wrote:
> >>
> >> > <srk1368.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> > Seriously - not funny or clever.>.
> >> >
> >> > Forgot the name,
> >>
> >> Trepanning. Or trepanation.
> >>
> >> > but it is a treatment for migraines in some places.
> >>
> >> Places which have morons instead of doctors. Permanent trepanation has no
> >> use in modern medicine (temporary trepanation, on the other hand, is
> >> pretty essential for any form of brain surgery).
> >>
> >> tom
> >
> >Trepanation, iirc, has also been used in ancient Tibet to open the third
> >eye and expand Psychic powers according to T. Lobsang Rampa.
>
> Yeah, and all that "power" helped them a lot against the Chinese.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:55 am
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In article <fimnpl$ne3$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> > Sounds fascinating...
>
> Don't I always?

You generally do have unique insights. Wink

>
> > My boss told me a story several years ago about a kid that was in a car
> > wreck with severe head trauma and a fractured skull. They triaged him
> > down and left him in a back room to die. The incident happened about 40
> > years ago according to Mauro.
> >
> > He didn't die.
> >
> > He did have brain swelling and they figured that the cracked skull
> > helped to keep the pressure low enough to prevent brain damage. He met
> > the kid several years later and he was perfectly normal.
> >
> > I wonder if this concept came from other pediatricians that saw similar
> > incidents?
>
> Or from neurosurgeons who did exploratory craniectomies on severe head
> injury patients and the patients' brains swelled right out of their skulls
> so they left the bone flap off 'cause they couldn't get it back on and the
> patients did better?

Could be! Kinda like finding out that bloody taps with spinal tap
patients had fewer headaches, hence the "blood block" they now use for
that.

>
> > It makes sense if Dexamethazone won't do the trick.
>
> Corticosteroids aren't used anymore for cerebral edema or hemorrhage.
>
> David

They do in veterinary medicine... but no longer for humans.
It works pretty well in most animals with head trauma but it's certainly
not 100%. It's generally used in an attempt to prevent it, not treat it.

How many humans get hit by cars compared to wild critters, or pets with
careless companion humans?

It's still used a LOT in wildlife rescue.
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