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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:21 pm
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What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:06 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:40 pm
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In article <1107469278.454966.3860.TakeThisOut@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "tabber"
<iggy3087.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> stream-of-consciousness style.
PTTP is pretty good. Pricey for what you get, but a good simple program..
If you are more scientific minded and can do the application yourself
Zatsiorsky's 'Science and Practise of Strength Training' is excellent. It
explains pretty much all the principles that Pavel uses in PTTP. It also
has suggestions for strength development in a variety of applications. But
it doesn't lay a program out - you have to develop your own. >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:03 am
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"tabber" <iggy3087 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> stream-of-consciousness style.
Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc.. >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:03 am
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In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "tabber" <iggy3087.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> > stream-of-consciousness style.
>
> Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
> effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
> considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc..
Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
Atlas wept.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:20 am
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"Hobbes" <khobman.TakeThisOut@sasktel.net> wrote in message
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> In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "tabber" <iggy3087.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> > > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> > > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> > > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> > > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> > > stream-of-consciousness style.
> >
> > Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has
an
> > effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and
diet
> > considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,
etc..
>
> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>
> Atlas wept.
Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts. >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:32 am
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John wrote:
> "Hobbes" wrote:
>>"John" wrote:
>>>"tabber" wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>>>
>>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>>training and diet considerations.
>>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>Atlas wept.
>
> Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength.. >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:06 am
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In article <1106ubrr94a7u25.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>, Jeff Finlayson
<finlayson.TakeThisOut@hiwaaay.not> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > "Hobbes" wrote:
> >>"John" wrote:
> >>>"tabber" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> >>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> >>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> >>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> >>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> >>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
> >>>
> >>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
> >>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
> >>>training and diet considerations.
>
> >>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
> >>Atlas wept.
> >
> > Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> > good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>
> There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder... >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:22 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm
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"John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Hobbes" <khobman.TakeThisOut@sasktel.net> wrote in message
> news:khobman-0302052136230001@192.168.1.103...
>> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>
>> Atlas wept.
>
> Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
'feeling and looking good' is not necessarily compatible with being good at
any sport. I want to be good at lightweight rowing, so I need to have big
legs, some core strength, and some lats and biceps, but most other muscles I
want as small as possible because they won't help me move the boat. So I do
not look particularly good. A lot of the time I feel tired, possibly sore or
stiff, and when I'm competing I need to make weight, so I have to diet,
which isn't liable to make me feel good.
Now, I need to follow a weights programme, because I need to be able to
produce a lot of power to get the boat moving as fast as possible. If I
follow a routine out of Men's Health, I will find that I am working a whole
lot of muscles I don't need to work, those muscles will grow, and I will
either fail to make weight or have to dehydrate and mess around more to do
it, either of which is bad.
'small nuts' comes from taking drugs, which is also known as cheating, and
liable to get you thrown out of most sports.
Peter >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:35 pm
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:20:31 GMT, "John"
<y_tu_momma_tambien.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Hobbes" <khobman.RemoveThis@sasktel.net> wrote in message
>news:khobman-0302052136230001@192.168.1.103...
>> In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> "John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "tabber" <iggy3087.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>> > > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>> > > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>> > > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>> > > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>> > > stream-of-consciousness style.
>> >
>> > Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has
>an
>> > effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and
>diet
>> > considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,
>etc..
>>
>> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>
>> Atlas wept.
>
>Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
>good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>
Aimed at yer typical beer gut, couch potato looking to get into / back
into better shape. >> Stay informed about: Best Strength Training Program/Book |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:46 am
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khobman RemoveThis @sasktel.net (Hobbes) wrote in news:khobman-0402050806350001@
192.168.0.48:
> In article <1106ubrr94a7u25 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>, Jeff Finlayson
> <finlayson RemoveThis @hiwaaay.not> wrote:
>
>> John wrote:
>> > "Hobbes" wrote:
>> >>"John" wrote:
>> >>>"tabber" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>> >>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>> >>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>> >>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>> >>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>> >>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>> >>>
>> >>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>> >>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>> >>>training and diet considerations.
>>
>> >>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>> >>Atlas wept.
>> >
>> > Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and
look
>> > good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>>
>> There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
>
> First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...
Dood. We have your confession on tape. And I'm sure someone, somewhere has
pictures...
Hugh
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:50 am
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Hobbes wrote:
> Jeff Finlayson wrote:
>>John wrote:
>>>"Hobbes" wrote:
>>>>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>>>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>>>>training and diet considerations.
>>
>>>>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>>>Atlas wept.
>>>
>>>Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
>>>good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>>
>>There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
>
> First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...
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